tuning box testing... DSD

[JohnnyType2]

good video, worth a watch

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_sIRoPgFFI

[TheWanderer]

Drivers Safety Device? 

[JohnnyType2]

On 22/05/2020 at 11:06, TheWanderer said:

Drivers Safety Device? 

 

dark side developments.... 

diesel tuning specialists.

 

thay have basically taken four of the best tuning boxes and scientifically torn them a new ars....... 

 

DTUK did not look good after this one . the DTUK unit DSD tested lowered the stock 150bhp by 3bhp to 147bhp ... 

Edited 25 May, 2020 by JohnnyType2

[Towelie]

Got me thinking about my DTUK box on the vRS, some days its definitely doing what it is meant to, strong pull and more than stock, but other times it feels completely underwhelming.

[JamiePvrs]

Great video, glad I never went for a tuning box.......

[shyVRS245]

As I long suspected having always had a custom remap on my cars this proves tuning boxes are first a waste of money and second could damage your engine (too much pressure on the common rail sensor).

For comparison my 2013 Mk3 Octavia shared the same engine as the Audi A4 tested 150PS and when rolling road tested it produced 147bhp and 246lb/ft (Skoda claim 236lb/ft). The Audi was 147bhp and 255lb/ft.

DTUK gave 145bhp and 285lb/ft.

TDi Tuning gave 169bhp and 290lb/ft.

Racechip gave 169bhp and 290lb/ft.

Darkside Developments custom remap gave 190bhp and 305lb/ft.

My custom AmD remap on the Octavia gave 186bhp and 317lb/ft.

All the tuning boxes tested were at least £400 yet my custom map was £500. Make up your mind which is better value. Best when standard my car did 71mpg and after the remap 70mpg.

[JamiePvrs]

On 22/05/2020 at 13:47, Towelie said:

Got me thinking about my DTUK box on the vRS, some days its definitely doing what it is meant to, strong pull and more than stock, but other times it feels completely underwhelming.

Or on the days you think it's doing what it should the car is running as normal and other times the box is hindering the performance maybe? 

 

After watching that video I wouldnt touch a box nor would I recommend anyone else to. My bro has a giulietta 2.0 tdi 150bhp and was looking at the blue fin box but they have gone into liquidation now!

[Craig_S_VRS]

I absolutely love darksides content one of the reasons i ended up in a diesel. I've always used the same mapper for my cars except when i had my Impreza i decided to go with Andy Forrest because he is subaru royalty and close to me. 

[themanwithnoaim]

On 22/05/2020 at 11:51, JohnnyType2 said:

 

dark side developments.... 

diesel tuning specialists.

 

thay have basically taken four of the best tuning boxes and scientifically torn them a new ars....... 

 

DTUK did not look good after this one . the DTUK unit DSD tested lowered the stock 150bhp by 3bhp to 147bhp ... 

DSD didn't get the correct tuningbox for the car they tested & didn't want to change it when told by dtuk it wouldn't work, Surprise, Surprise it didn't work.

 

Gotta be careful what you believe on the internet, nuff said

[JohnnyType2]

that really interesting.....

 

i guess you take people at face value on the internet to easily.

 

wonder why DSD felt they had to lie about it?

 

DSD dont look so good if thats true?

 

[JohnnyType2]

On 24/05/2020 at 11:22, shyVRS245 said:

Make up your mind which is better value. Best when standard my car did 71mpg and after the remap 70mpg.

 

you free wheelin' down hills or something?

 

my grandpa use to do that, turn off the engine in the 'Morris' and coast along. It worked until he switched cars then tried it in a modern motor and the steering locked and he ended up in a ditch.

[shyVRS245]

18 minutes ago, JohnnyType2 said:

 

you free wheelin' down hills or something?

 

my grandpa use to do that, turn off the engine in the 'Morris' and coast along. It worked until he switched cars then tried it in a modern motor and the steering locked and he ended up in a ditch.

Only good drivers get good mpg. Everyone else either doesn't care or wears diving boots. Try getting 49.3mpg in a 360bhp petrol Superb that weighs 1,627kg.

[J.R.]

1 hour ago, JohnnyType2 said:

 

you free wheelin' down hills or something?

 

my grandpa use to do that, turn off the engine in the 'Morris' and coast along. It worked until he switched cars then tried it in a modern motor and the steering locked and he ended up in a ditch.

 

Today must be the day for false news on t'internet.

 

Steering locks from day one would never engage unless the key was removed from the ignition barrel and you also have to turn the wheel significantly applying much more lock than you would once in motion at any speed.

 

Its been close to 50 years since they became commonplace and during that time I have heard many people claim that the accident they had was caused by the steering lock engaging.

Edited 12 August, 2020 by J.R.

[JohnnyType2]

4 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

Today must be the day for false news on t'internet.

 

Steering locks from day one would never engage unless the key was removed from the ignition barrel and you also have to turn the wheel significantly applying much more lock than you would once in motion at any speed.

 

Its been close to 50 years since they became commonplace and during that time I have heard many people claim that the accident they had was caused by the steering lock engaging.

 

bingo! (we are talking about a split window Morris)

 

Edited 12 August, 2020 by JohnnyType2

[AMD87]

On 12/08/2020 at 09:04, themanwithnoaim said:

DSD didn't get the correct tuningbox for the car they tested & didn't want to change it when told by dtuk it wouldn't work, Surprise, Surprise it didn't work.

 

Gotta be careful what you believe on the internet, nuff said

What was worse for dtuk was that they then tried to use a phone app that uses a 1hz reciever to justify performance figures.....

[themanwithnoaim]

Nothing surprises me, BS talks & facts walk

 

Very sad really, thought DSD were above all that 💩 

Edited 15 August, 2020 by themanwithnoaim

[AMD87]

On 15/08/2020 at 18:11, themanwithnoaim said:

Nothing surprises me, BS talks & facts walk

 

Very sad really, thought DSD were above all that 💩 

They are but DTUK don't seem to be looking at thier response.

[themanwithnoaim]

DSD switched car & they didn't give DTUK a chance to replace the box for the car it was to be tested on although, DTUK told DSD it would'nt work.

Edited 20 August, 2020 by themanwithnoaim

[Towelie]

On 24/05/2020 at 12:01, JamiePvrs said:

Or on the days you think it's doing what it should the car is running as normal and other times the box is hindering the performance maybe? 

 

After watching that video I wouldn't touch a box nor would I recommend anyone else to. My bro has a giulietta 2.0 tdi 150bhp and was looking at the blue fin box but they have gone into liquidation now!

 

Just to pick this back up, my feeling that the box wasn't doing what DTUK say it should be doing were confirmed today via rolling road test. 209bhp from a product that claims much higher results. I know they use the terminolgy of "up to 240ps" but the result on rolling road speaks for itself.

 

Had the box removed there and then at the end of the dyno run review - the car is now tuned with Revo stage 1 software with rolling road results and overlay to compare the tuning box vs Revo. The difference is night and day  and I wish I hadn't bothered with DTUK - waste of money.

[MarkyG82]

I have thought that they would do better do advertise them as "improved performance" rather than "+40ps" in much the same way they describe their pedal boxes. I have a pedal box now fitted to my Passat after having it on my Octavia. Don't think I would own a VAG car without one.

[stever750]

I had a tuning box on my vRS tdi for 12 months, and whilst it improved performance (no idea how much, never measured it) but it wasn't massive because I had to retard the settings due to constant EML and limp modes. You can drive a performance car with that level of unreliability, best thing I did was ditch it and get it properly remapped. 

[vRSG60]

After watching that I wouldn’t use a tuning box or get a remap to be honest.

[cybershot]

On 24/05/2020 at 11:22, shyVRS245 said:

As I long suspected having always had a custom remap on my cars this proves tuning boxes are first a waste of money and second could damage your engine (too much pressure on the common rail sensor).

For comparison my 2013 Mk3 Octavia shared the same engine as the Audi A4 tested 150PS and when rolling road tested it produced 147bhp and 246lb/ft (Skoda claim 236lb/ft). The Audi was 147bhp and 255lb/ft.

DTUK gave 145bhp and 285lb/ft.

TDi Tuning gave 169bhp and 290lb/ft.

Racechip gave 169bhp and 290lb/ft.

Darkside Developments custom remap gave 190bhp and 305lb/ft.

My custom AmD remap on the Octavia gave 186bhp and 317lb/ft.

All the tuning boxes tested were at least £400 yet my custom map was £500. Make up your mind which is better value. Best when standard my car did 71mpg and after the remap 70mpg.

70mpg your having a laugh once you get a remap or attach a tuning box the cars mpg readout doesn't work properly if i get 50mpg driving like miss daisy I'm happy