39 minutes ago, csdex said:

Ok well I found another VIN through googlefu, same 2015 Scout, but they can download the maps through the updateportal.

 

I'm guessing it's something they must unlock their end.

 

 

Probably not the update portal not being up to date or as hypothesized you get effected by Mapcare on that unit. Depends when Skoda withdrew / threw it in for free Mapcare to ROW.

 

What's this download infotainment manager you are editing ?. Edited the download.exe Skoda command you got something else there.

36 minutes ago, Tell said:

 

Probably not the update portal not being up to date or as hypothesized you get effected by Mapcare on that unit. Depends when Skoda withdrew / threw it in for free Mapcare to ROW.

 

What's this download infotainment manager you are editing ?. Edited the download.exe Skoda command you got something else there.

 

Yeah, the download.exe is called Infotainment Downloader.

Just changed the url it uses to the new one.

27 minutes ago, csdex said:

 

Yeah, the download.exe is called Infotainment Downloader.

Just changed the url it uses to the new one.

Need a tutorial it was fine when the files were 7 zip but haven't got it to work since they moved to "zip".

 

My crib sheet:

 

Skoda Download Manager - Commands to set it up

 

 

 

Just wrap the file name in the section XXXXXXXXXX

 

where XXXXXXXX is the file name from the direct download

 

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/XXXXXXXXXX/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe

 

e.g.

 

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_915_EU1_2018/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe

 

----

 

what's yours :). Probably missed something. It was very good with the ropey Skoda servers in keeping the link going.

 

Obviously my eg works which predates when they changed things.

 

 

Edited 6 August, 20205 yr by Tell

PM me, I can only do 1 per day.
I don't think they want me posting links.

 

I've just modded the Downloader.exe to point to the new URL's.
Nothing fancy.

52 minutes ago, csdex said:

PM me, I can only do 1 per day.
I don't think they want me posting links.

I've just modded the Downloader.exe to point to the new URL's.
Nothing fancy.

Your link was removed as a precaution because:-

1. it wasn’t an official VAG location link
2. it used downloader as a method of transport
3. it was your first post and looked dodgy 

Edited 6 August, 20205 yr by john999boy

5 hours ago, Tell said:

Need a tutorial it was fine when the files were 7 zip but haven't got it to work since they moved to "zip".

 

My crib sheet:

 

Skoda Download Manager - Commands to set it up

 

 

 

Just wrap the file name in the section XXXXXXXXXX

 

where XXXXXXXX is the file name from the direct download

 

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/XXXXXXXXXX/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe

 

e.g.

 

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_915_EU1_2018/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe

 

----

 

what's yours :). Probably missed something. It was very good with the ropey Skoda servers in keeping the link going.

 

Obviously my eg works which predates when they changed things.

 

 

 

Think this is one for bigade1

 

where I might have picked up the original syntax from.

@csdex it would appear that this might be an old chestnut looking at this

 

http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-113410.html

 

Post 21 on. Reckon it's Mapcare was current on some of those units when it shouldn't have been so they were taken in to be adjusted. Your unit is in that time domain.

 

I've @bigade1 for ideas on why my syntax for the downloader isn't working on this

 

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/HIGH12_P187_EU_202022.zip

 

after I transcribed it to the downloader form. Where Skoda files are in the lead it's useful to have :). 

I've compared 4 different map downloaders and they all are exactly the same, except the download URL for the maps.
I was hoping there was dynamic signing for the maps against the VIN, but nowhere in the 4 examples could I find such a thing.

 

The 4 I found were:

http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_915_EU1_2018/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe
http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_1030_EU1_201819/Downloader.exe?ver=636707742092136884&extension=.exe
http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_1115_EU1_201920/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe
http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/P49_N60S5MIBH3_ROW_NT_Q3.14/Downloader.exe?ver=635678976653582128&extension=.exe
 

I think it just sets up a protocol between you and the servers. An analysis of the program that was published by people looking for viruses said it has a stay alive function which obviously means if your internet has a wobble it picks up from where it left off. Very handy with slow Skoda servers and on problematic rural internet. It was developed for Skoda, it's their version of the VW  Discover care tool which handles downloading and unzipping. That tool was always last to be populated in the release of maps. Good for Mac users since they didn't need to follow VW Mac instructions, many dont then it doesnt work. I think the VW tool may be discontinued now. 

 

Waiting for the good people here to confirm that the Skoda Downloader program has been discontinued or has a new syntax since it doesn't work for me on the latest high release. Historic releases are fine. Not sure anybody actually knew what the numbers were after ver=... you did a cut and paste and it always worked... now with this release it doesn't. May be Skoda can enable it to work with specific downloads and the 2020-2021 high release isn't one of them. A flag has not been set ?. Think I'll withdraw my previous statement on the zip files.

 

 

The ver value has no changed on the content of the download.exe
That's what I found strange.

The file I sent you in the PM was a manually tweaked download.exe with the latest maps, but could be used to update future releases.

There is extra information in the downloader.exe but the webservices it uses have all since been shut down.

 

Still, it's a useful tool to unpack maps for the average joe.

Wouldn't be hard to replicate for something more dynamic.

I didn't open the PM file since it came from that questionable filestore rather than an Exe from Skoda :). Still waiting for the great and the good of the Skoda board to confirm what's happened to that process. The process works but not for the most recent files I.e. this release so must be toggled off by Skoda or doesn't sit in the server area supported.

 

Don't touch modded Exe files, sorry.

 

Sorted out your mib1 high yet ?. You are back to the dealer on that. Looks like it should have been updated years ago and slipped threw the net and still had Mapcare active on them although it was a paid job based on the thread I gave you. Similar situation in the UK where people try to update maps and it's not possible via DIY methods. Common on Seat mib1s. Ditto all high units.

All good, and so you should be cautious.

 

Nothing sorted yet, I shot Skoda Aus an email, but will take forever I'm guessing.

On 27/06/2020 at 10:12, Stevehanover said:

MIB 1 and 2 in the folders ?

Thank you guys! I am new to Skodas, having just bought a 2017 Octavia L&K. I have spent the last week trying to update my Columbus nav maps. Skoda's portal makes it look simple by missing out vital information (eg FAT32 format, which files to include). The dealer had no-one who knew how, or at least,I couldn't find them! Their solution was a new Skoda Amundsen SD cardI tried another dealer, and they were as bad. The web had lots of info and advice, but most I found was about Amundsen stuff, which I didn't realise (THEN!) works completely differently: from an SD card.

I have learned a lot, and today I managed to get new maps,thanks to you all. One last question - how do you find out whether your system is Mib1 or Mib2?

I'd read what the existing card says and Google the serial number if it's printed on the label. The hardware part number is another.

 

Seats have 6P as the software part number for Mib2, Skodas will be... ?. But you will find it on a Google from the code on the card or the info screen. Also if you down load it will be instantly recognisable by file structure. Three tests :). Reckon from year mib2.

Edited 17 September, 20205 yr by Tell

I keep failing to download the ROW P88 file from the Skoda CDN here in New Zealand. Does anyone have a mirror of this file ? I’ve always had issues trying to download these files via the portal.

I gave up with Skoda and just use Google Maps through CarPlay . Even gives you Satellite view  

45 minutes ago, JohnaNZ said:

I keep failing to download the ROW P88 file from the Skoda CDN here in New Zealand. Does anyone have a mirror of this file ? I’ve always had issues trying to download these files via the portal.

 

Have a look at the top of the thread it's this on VW servers. Basically Skoda servers are rubbish.

 

http://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P88_N60S5MIBH3_ROW_NT.7z

9 hours ago, Stevehanover said:

I gave up with Skoda and just use Google Maps through CarPlay . Even gives you Satellite view  

Google Maps isn't brilliant. The satellite images and aerial views can be old which means crowd sourcing of new roads doesn't happen / can't be validated by their team when told that their maps miss features out. A proper digital mapping company invests in uptodate aerial images which don't have cloud cover. Depends a lot of where we are talking about, as an experiment I didn't tell them about a large housing estate that had been there for ten years after two, I told them

On 05/07/2020 at 13:13, Stevehanover said:

Still can’t get the update to work. Anyone have an Idiots guide I can use 🤣

 

Stevehanover, my sympathies. I got a 2017 Octavia L&K a month ago and spent a solid week trying to find out what I needed to do to update my maps.

Even in users' discussions I was lost with jargon (Mib1 Mib2 Fat32 etc)

After 4 days I discovered that (unlike Amundsen) my Columbus system did not run from an SD card (which my dealer thought). Instead it uploads from the card, so here's what I did. (In Scotland, dont know how it applies worldwide)

1Download (onto your computer) Europe maps from Skoda update portal. 26 gb zip file. Took me 2+hours

2 Format a 32gb SD card on your computer in Fat32 format.

3 Unzip the zip file

4 Drag and drop all the unzipped files (both Mib1 and 2) to the SD card

5 once they are in the SD card, insert in card drive in you car head unit.

6 In Infotainment System settings, (keep looking!) there is an "update" choice. Choose it!

7  Took my system 30 minutes to update. I went for a drive on local new road system, and bingo! there it was.

I know how annoying it was, so GOOD LUCK!

 

13 minutes ago, ZURDO said:

 

See what you mean, the best written one is the original VW PDF. Most issues are due to the use of MACs and not following the VW instructions on CleanMydrive or if a PC trying to be smart and not using 7zip. Going in and not presenting the full directory... need to present mib1 & mib2 as the mib2 high download (some people try to be clever and leave off the mib1 subdirectory - no). Others insist on formatting not in Fat32. Nope, the unit runs QNX so doesn't like anything other than Fat32.

 

VW Mib2 high notes then you follow the Columbus update menu once you have the clean upload to the unit.

 

https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/dam/jcr:c08aab64-ee73-4082-86a6-0fa82362282a/Discover Pro June_2019_EN.pdf

3 hours ago, ZURDO said:

Stevehanover, my sympathies. I got a 2017 Octavia L&K a month ago and spent a solid week trying to find out what I needed to do to update my maps.

Even in users' discussions I was lost with jargon (Mib1 Mib2 Fat32 etc)

After 4 days I discovered that (unlike Amundsen) my Columbus system did not run from an SD card (which my dealer thought). Instead it uploads from the card, so here's what I did. (In Scotland, dont know how it applies worldwide)

1Download (onto your computer) Europe maps from Skoda update portal. 26 gb zip file. Took me 2+hours

2 Format a 32gb SD card on your computer in Fat32 format.

3 Unzip the zip file

4 Drag and drop all the unzipped files (both Mib1 and 2) to the SD card

5 once they are in the SD card, insert in card drive in you car head unit.

6 In Infotainment System settings, (keep looking!) there is an "update" choice. Choose it!

7  Took my system 30 minutes to update. I went for a drive on local new road system, and bingo! there it was.

I know how annoying it was, so GOOD LUCK!

 

Thanks I will give it a try again . I’ve been using Google Maps via CarPlay which is good as it gives a satellite view option 

5 hours ago, ZURDO said:

Stevehanover, my sympathies. I got a 2017 Octavia L&K a month ago and spent a solid week trying to find out what I needed to do to update my maps.

Even in users' discussions I was lost with jargon (Mib1 Mib2 Fat32 etc)

After 4 days I discovered that (unlike Amundsen) my Columbus system did not run from an SD card (which my dealer thought). Instead it uploads from the card, so here's what I did. (In Scotland, dont know how it applies worldwide)

1Download (onto your computer) Europe maps from Skoda update portal. 26 gb zip file. Took me 2+hours

2 Format a 32gb SD card on your computer in Fat32 format.

3 Unzip the zip file

4 Drag and drop all the unzipped files (both Mib1 and 2) to the SD card

5 once they are in the SD card, insert in card drive in you car head unit.

6 In Infotainment System settings, (keep looking!) there is an "update" choice. Choose it!

7  Took my system 30 minutes to update. I went for a drive on local new road system, and bingo! there it was.

I know how annoying it was, so GOOD LUCK!

 

 

& if a MAC OS you work in the VW PDF instruction which is imperative to remove the operating system hidden characters it enters into the download which will stop the upload to the car in it's tracks (CleanMydrive is run against the SD after copying the files over):

 

If the map update is performed using the Apple® OS X operating system you may find that  
Discover Pro does not recognise the map material or displays it incorrectly. This is due to a  
lack of compatibility between the “7 zip” program and the OS-X operating system. In addition,  
the OS-X operating system has a tendency to create hidden additional files on external data  
media. We therefore recommend that OS X users use the “Keka” unzipping program. We also  
recommend using the “CleanMyDrive” program to remove any hidden files.

Just updated my MIB2 to 2020 maps, the usual method didn't work, then I remembered it didn't last time and I had to follow this alternate method.....

 

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/451145-my-try-on-retrofitting-amundsen-mib1-with-canton-with-columbus-mib2/?do=findComment&comment=5072321

Those are the retrofit instructions. Backend menu (SWDL) is locked down in Mib2, wasn't in Mib1. Once unlocked and the navigation FeCs can take the update then off you go (Skoda / VW mib2 you are fine, Seat not, have published a table on the Seatcupra forum which provides the boundaries, ready reckoned for mib2 high navigation FeCs). You can use this method even if it's not a retrofit if you unlock the backend menu via VCDS / Obdeleven but won't work if the navigation FeCs aren't up to it (Seat only). It locks the navigation up within 30 seconds after selecting a destination. You must reload the maps that tally with the navigation FeCs. But as said not an issue or shouldn't be for VW and Skoda mib2 high.

 

I do the open and close the door trick every 15 minutes to keep the unit powered up using this method, so don't have the engine running during the the update, do it off the battery. After 20 minutes if you dont open the door the unit will power down and you loose the updates - have to start again unlike the front menu. 15 minutes gives you a 5 minute safety buffer. Cup of coffee, go to the loo, back out to the car to see how its going. Should be done in about 40 minutes via the back end menu.

Edited 21 October, 20205 yr by Tell
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