1 hour ago, Leon_1973 said:

Which maps do I need for my Octavia III, year 2014? System is factory-original, no modifications.

VIN <removed>

Do I need MIB1 or MIB2 maps and system?

Well I suspect you have mib1 high where support was dropped after the 350 release. 370 was the next one where mib1 high got dropped. It had been a combined release for mib1 and mib2 high prior. If you google your image part number for the unit 5e0035020c it seems its supported mib 1 and mib2 however your firmware is 370 which is mib1, so you are stuck. Pretty sure.

I updated the maps on my Columbus radio with the files from HIGH2_P450_EU_202625.zip and everything seemed to go ok.

However, I cannot zoom in beyond a scale of 40km (as indicated by the rule in the lower right hand corner). Zooming out is no problem.

When updating I used the method via the hidden menu by pressing Car+Menu for a few seconds (as found via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEiHfZZSTr4).
I did notice that it was updating MIB1

Everything else seems to work ok in the navigation system.

Could it be related to the software version? See the attached screenshot.

Who can help me out ??

Regards,

Joost

Edited 22 May22 May by JvdWaa
picture added

20 minutes ago, JvdWaa said:

I updated the maps on my Columbus radio with the files from HIGH2_P450_EU_202625.zip and everything seemed to go ok.

However, I cannot zoom in beyond a scale of 40km (as indicated by the rule in the lower right hand corner). Zooming out is no problem.

When updating I used the method via the hidden menu by pressing Car+Menu for a few seconds (as found via https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEiHfZZSTr4).
I did notice that it was updating MIB1

Everything else seems to work ok in the navigation system.

Could it be related to the software version? See the attached screenshot.

Who can help me out ??

Regards,

Joost

Yes that's Mr Fix its videos.videos. Vag dropped support for Mib1 so whilst the release is a dual release Vag left out the mib1 components. If you got hardware prior to 2015 it's mib1. 370 after was the change over.

To get out of this mess you need to install an old map that corresponds to your unit. You can use the developers menu which in mib1 isn't locked down. A long press on MENU gets you into a menu where you will see SWDL with any luck. You then play around with that with the 350 map file. Install all. Keep the door open to keep the unit powered up after 40 mins or so you should be OK.

Never used swdl on a mib1 but I know people who have on boards. If like mib2 it should fix it although I do recall a post where there was an issue of a filled memory ?. But basically swdl allows you to go backwards as well as forwards into map updates. 350 is your last mib1 high map release after that you aren't suppose install the combined file since its missing the element you need. It's just a curiosity of how they historically did a dual release.

Best of luck.

Edited 22 May22 May by Tell

Thats the mib2 version of the backend menu. mib1 is similar. You run it with the 350 map download and overwrite the navigation files. Manual and fumbling the menu if mib1 is the same. Ive used the process a lot on a mib2 high for overwriting the maps.

& this is a mib1 video you need to find the manual download menu as the one above. Then you force an update that takes you backwards. Manual download then fumble the bits you want to update and then start. Assuming the manual method is in the mib1 system. When he said two lines on the other video. Manual, select the elements and start.

From 3.42. I can't see the see the "manual" method... but its probably there. Perhaps someone will jump in if going backwards is not a thing that mib1s do.

Edited 22 May22 May by Tell

I'm going to re-install the 350-files I kept from the last update.

The one thing I don't understand is the fact that the maps do work (routing is using the new highway we have since last October), but that it will not let me zoom in.

If it is depending on the version of the software (350 vs 370), it would be interesting to know if updating to 370 is possible....

4 minutes ago, JvdWaa said:

I'm going to re-install the 350-files I kept from the last update.

The one thing I don't understand is the fact that the maps do work (routing is using the new highway we have since last October), but that it will not let me zoom in.

If it is depending on the version of the software (350 vs 370), it would be interesting to know if updating to 370 is possible....

Its not the software that can be updated to give you mib2 high. Lack of zoom is that it has half installed the map file which is only designed for the mib2 high. The software release code you have on their feels like a map release. It isn't. Map file release 370 and above are for the mib2 high only, prior to that a joint release.

You aren't the first since as I recall an Australian just had the view of Australia with the zoom gone. Basically when Vag decided they were not releasing for mib1 high anymore loading mib2 high files into a mib1 gives you that.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe it is time to find a newer radio/navigation system. I do like the Columbus though, easy to handle, especially if you know how to use the knobs.

21 hours ago, Tell said:

& this is a mib1 video you need to find the manual download menu as the one above. Then you force an update that takes you backwards. Manual download then fumble the bits you want to update and then start. Assuming the manual method is in the mib1 system. When he said two lines on the other video. Manual, select the elements and start.

From 3.42. I can't see the see the "manual" method... but its probably there. Perhaps someone will jump in if going backwards is not a thing that mib1s do.

Well, I tried to use the hidden update menu (holding the menu for a few seconds, but when I selected update I got a screen several screens where I ended up in the individual countries, but not able to select the needed tick box at the very end ☹️

However, when I went to the normal navigation screen and selected update in the setup menu, it all started to read and downgrade the maps... 😃

After a long wait the system gave the message it was successful and after an OK it rebooted.

Maps are back again like they were before.
I guess I have to check Google Maps before navigating in order to know the navigation system is directing me in the proper way (like I did the past 2 years).

It would be nice though, to find a way to update the maps, but I guess I have to live with the current situation for the rest of the car's life.

Glad you got it back. Mib1 swdl probably works a bit different to the mib2 version but I did wonder whether it would just down grade. Map updates are useful where there have been specific new road builds or estates. Can be annoying when you are in no man's land since the road is new or it takes you off it when a new road is ahead.

I tend to check Google maps for long journeys and adjust the route if required. Mib2 high maps may be finishing soon in a year or so but we don't talk about it. Use to drive rental cars in Japan where the maps were not updated. Irritating. As navigator you are juggling with devices but I became a dab hand with their coordinator system but first time the car took us to a temple. The rental guy was suppose have put the hotel in. The temple became a way point. Second year I found their coordinate app system that generates the unique code that Japanese satnav uses. Crafty way of keeping competitors out of the market.

Huh? Missed this HIGH2_P450_EU update completely until now as the timing seems to have changed?

Wasn't it around end of May and November up till now?

Only recently went looking for an update because of this past behaviour.

They shouldn't change these things for an autistically inclined person like myself!

Also surprised to still see the P430 version via link for my VIN?

Is this an intermediate update then?

Regards, Louis.

4 minutes ago, ForeeL said:

Huh? Missed this HIGH2_P450_EU update completely until now as the timing seems to have changed?

Wasn't it around end of May and November up till now?

Only recently went looking for an update because of this past behaviour.

They shouldn't change these things for an autistically inclined person like myself!

Also surprised to still see the P430 version via link for my VIN?

Is this an intermediate update then?

Regards, Louis.

Early birth. It happened with the Mib2 Standard as well and in the previous release. I put it down to the streamlined processing that is now used for mib3/4 with connect services. The need to get them out monthly means no messing about, so us mib2 people get them early. Least my theory. They have shortened the production time from the freeze date from their live system but put them out for use at the normal time. Sits on servers not doing anything if you aren't in the know.

Thanks for the explanation, Tell.

Hallo,wie kann ich bei meinem Seat Leon Cupra R ST Baujahr 2020 mit dem großem Navi neue Navikarten installieren.P450 habe ich auf eine SD-Karte wird aber nicht erkannt.Kann jemand helfen?Hier steht auch was das es bei Seat und VW nicht funktioniert.Was muss ich denn tun das es bei mir auch funktioniert?Vielen dank im vorraus.

Hello, how can I install new navigation maps on my 2020 Seat Leon Cupra R ST equipped with the large navigation system? I have the P450 files on an SD card, but it isn't being recognized. Can anyone help? I’ve read somewhere that this doesn't work for Seat and VW vehicles. What do I need to do to get it working on mine? Many thanks in advance.

For Seat you use the mib2 high tool box to add the Skoda navigation FeC you add it to the Seat FeC list that you find in the software using a

plain notepad editor observing how the original file terminated. See the posts of page 1 above. Install the toolbox in the green menu. You take a back up, then at that stage edit the FeC list you find on the SD card you are using for the software. Then add FeCs command. Reboot the unit.

Take a photo of the FeC list before and after. You should see the additional FeC added. If it hasn't added it then you aren't in business. One poster was having issues taking a second back up. They said they had to rename the first. I suspect they didnt need to take a second backup. I only took the original one then did the addfec.

The github software works with specific firmware installed in the car. I think that is now generalised. Certainly for late models. For very early Seat mib2 highs you might have to use 1447AIO then the github project. The github project should list which one it works with. The people associated with the project wrote the module for mine which was 1337 or 1349 something like that. Now as said I believe they have probably written the stuff for 1xxx. You can check the read me on the project. Reckon being a late models you will be fine to use the project.

1 hour ago, Tell said:

On 16/02/2026 at 17:56, Mohrhuhn said:

Unfortunately, I’m not quite at the level of expertise reflected in your post; I’m a beginner. Could you explain it in a way that’s easy to understand? Is there a step-by-step guide available, or simply a download for the latest maps compatible with my 2020 Seat Leon Cupra R ST (with the large navigation system)?

Für Seat verwenden Sie die mib2 hohe Werkzeugbox, um die Skoda Navigation FeC hinzuzufügen, die Sie in der Seat FeC-Liste hinzufügen, die Sie in der Software mit einer

Klarer Notizblock-Editor, der beobachtet, wie die ursprüngliche Datei beendet wurde. Siehe die Beiträge von Seite 1 oben. Installieren Sie die Toolbox im grünen Menü. Sie nehmen eine Sicherungskopie und bearbeiten dann in dieser Phase die FEC-Liste, die Sie auf der SD-Karte finden, die Sie für die Software verwenden. Fügen Sie dann den FeCs-Befehl hinzu. Starten Sie das Gerät neu.

Machen Sie ein Foto von der FEC-Liste vor und nach. Sie sollten die zusätzliche FeC hinzugefügt sehen. Wenn es es nicht hinzugefügt hat, dann sind Sie nicht im Geschäft. Ein Plakat hatte Probleme, eine Sekunde zurück zu nehmen. Sie sagten, sie müssten die erste umbenennen. Ich vermute, sie mussten kein zweites Backup nehmen. Ich habe nur das Original genommen, dann habe ich das Addfec gemacht.

Die Github-Software arbeitet mit einer spezifischen Firmware, die im Auto installiert ist. Ich denke, das ist jetzt verallgemeinert. Sicherlich für späte Modelle. Für sehr frühe Seat mib2 Höhen müssen Sie möglicherweise 1447AIO und dann das Github-Projekt verwenden. Das github-Projekt sollte auflisten, mit welchem es arbeitet. Die mit dem Projekt verbundenen Personen schrieben das Modul für meine, das 1337 oder 1349 so war. Wie gesagt, ich glaube, sie haben wahrscheinlich das Zeug für 1xxx geschrieben. Sie können das Lesen des Projekts überprüfen. Denken Sie daran, dass Sie als späte Modelle in Ordnung sind, das Projekt zu nutzen.

1 hour ago, Tell said:

For Seat you use the mib2 high tool box to add the Skoda navigation FeC you add it to the Seat FeC list that you find in the software using a

plain notepad editor observing how the original file terminated. See the posts of page 1 above. Install the toolbox in the green menu. You take a back up, then at that stage edit the FeC list you find on the SD card you are using for the software. Then add FeCs command. Reboot the unit.

Take a photo of the FeC list before and after. You should see the additional FeC added. If it hasn't added it then you aren't in business. One poster was having issues taking a second back up. They said they had to rename the first. I suspect they didnt need to take a second backup. I only took the original one then did the addfec.

The github software works with specific firmware installed in the car. I think that is now generalised. Certainly for late models. For very early Seat mib2 highs you might have to use 1447AIO then the github project. The github project should list which one it works with. The people associated with the project wrote the module for mine which was 1337 or 1349 something like that. Now as said I believe they have probably written the stuff for 1xxx. You can check the read me on the project. Reckon being a late models you will be fine to use the project.

17 minutes ago, llserkj said:

  1 hour ago, Tell said:

Unfortunately, I’m not quite at the level of expertise reflected in your post; I’m a beginner. Could you explain it in a way that’s easy to understand? Is there a step-by-step guide available, or simply a download for the latest maps compatible with my 2020 Seat Leon Cupra R ST (with the large navigation system)?

  1 hour ago, Tell said:

For Seat you use the mib2 high tool box to add the Skoda navigation FeC you add it to the Seat FeC list that you find in the software using a

I have written a Seat mib2 navigation resource

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.60/

Read from "Mib2 High / Seat Plus Map Update"

Unlike VW and Skoda, Seats did not come with life long navigation FeCs so you need to read your FeC and compare with that table. The previous release 430 links you will find on boards but if your FeC doesn't allow it wont work. How to do that check is on the link. There were some late Seat mib2 highs that had life long FeCs they finished in ee.

If it doesn't you would in anycase use the toolbox mentioned or get a retrofitter to add the Seat life long navigation FeC plus the Skoda one if you want 450 maps. Or just for 430 maps only Seat lifelong FeC.

I'm assuming you do know that your unit is a mib2 high / Seat Plus unit. No navigation card its a mib2 high. Mib3 I talk about that. Test is on that link.

1 hour ago, Tell said:

Ich habe eine Seat mib2 Navigationsressource geschrieben

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.60/

Lesen Sie aus " Mib2 High / Seat Plus Map Update "

Im Gegensatz zu VW und Skoda kam Seats nicht mit lebenslangen Navigations-FeCs, also müssen Sie Ihre FeC lesen und mit dieser Tabelle vergleichen. Die vorherigen Release 430 Links finden Sie auf Boards, aber wenn Ihr FeC es nicht zulässt, wird es nicht funktionieren. Wie man diese Überprüfung durchführt, ist auf dem Link. Es gab einige späte Seat mib2 Höhen, die lebenslange FeCs hatten, die sie in ee beendeten.

Wenn dies nicht der Fall ist, würden Sie in jedem Fall die erwähnte Toolbox verwenden oder einen Nachrüster erhalten, um die Sitzlebensdauer-Navigation FeC plus die Skoda-Navigation hinzuzufügen, wenn Sie 450 Karten wünschen. Oder nur für 430 Karten nur Sitzlebenslang FeC.

Ich nehme an, Sie wissen, dass Ihre Einheit eine mib2 hohe / Seat Plus Einheit ist. Keine Navigationskarte ist ein mib2 hoch. Mib3 Ich spreche darüber. Test ist auf diesem Link.

073000EE

DB_EU_MIB2_HIGH_SEAT_Lifetime_Mapcare I have lifetime MapCare and the MIB2 High system with an internal hard drive. Can I install the P450? The P430 worked, but the P450 doesn't.

3 hours ago, llserkj said:

073000EE

DB_EU_MIB2_HIGH_SEAT_Lifetime_Mapcare I have lifetime MapCare and the MIB2 High system with an internal hard drive. Can I install the P450? The P430 worked, but the P450 doesn't.

No for 450 see this post:

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-163#post-5097617

The 083... FeC in that post needs to be added to the unit via the github project or a retrofitter. Basically you can throw a list of navigation FeCs at it and it picks the one that works. Thus my unit has both the Seat and Skoda navigation FeC in it. I added the Skoda one in it last time support was pulled several years back, then next release it was added, now pulled again. It will probably I guess stay like this now.

Edited Tuesday at 21:354 days by Tell
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20 hours ago, Tell said:

Nein für 450 siehe diesen Beitrag:

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-163#post-5097617

Die 083... FeC in diesem Beitrag muss über das github-Projekt oder einen Retrofitter zu dem Gerät hinzugefügt werden. Grundsätzlich können Sie eine Liste von Navigations-FeCs darauf werfen und es wählt die, die funktioniert. So hat meine Einheit sowohl die Seat- als auch die Skoda-Navigation FeC. Ich habe den Skoda-Eins darin hinzugefügt, als der Support letztes Mal vor einigen Jahren abgezogen wurde, dann wurde die nächste Veröffentlichung hinzugefügt, jetzt wieder gezogen. Es wird wahrscheinlich jetzt so bleiben.

22 hours ago, Tell said:

Nein für 450 siehe diesen Beitrag:

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-mib1.388586/page-163#post-5097617

Die 083... FeC in diesem Beitrag muss über das github-Projekt oder einen Retrofitter zu dem Gerät hinzugefügt werden. Grundsätzlich können Sie eine Liste von Navigations-FeCs darauf werfen und es wählt die, die funktioniert. So hat meine Einheit sowohl die Seat- als auch die Skoda-Navigation FeC. Ich habe den Skoda-Eins darin hinzugefügt, als der Support letztes Mal vor einigen Jahren abgezogen wurde, dann wurde die nächste Veröffentlichung hinzugefügt, jetzt wieder gezogen. Es wird wahrscheinlich jetzt so bleiben.

How do I add the FECs to my radio, and where can I get them? Can I add the FECs using an SD card? I’m a beginner, and unfortunately, I understand very little of what you’re writing. You’d need to explain it in a way that anyone can understand. Isn't there a P450 version specifically for Seat?

I did say on the first page above:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/537850-columbus-map-update-2026-2027-mib2-high/#findComment-5996602

That github project but if you dont feel confident you get a retrofitter to do it for you.