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2021 Model L&K Superb IV Estate (UK)

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On 06/06/2013 at 17:47, MattyD said:

That's good to know. I will try again now. Maybe I need to set a higher temperature.

 

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Found this on a Skoda Website 
 
Q - Is it dangerous if the charging cable gets wet, the vehicle is in a puddle or it is raining?

 

A - No. The charging process is fully secured. There is no danger to persons at any time. Both the car and the charger itself have several levels of protection in these cases. For example, the current doesn’t run until it is securely plugged into the socket and both the car and charger are sure that everything is ready. 
 

So if it’s raining no issue?

Yes it does work:biggrin:. Noticed though that uses up range on electric. So what happens if it's plugged in and fully charged. Does it use mains power.

The battery  level drops by about 1% every 2 mins when not plugged in. I need to experiment.

 

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Yeah, if its plugged in it will use wall power

I have fitted a charger from the OpenEnergymonitor group, this is an open source project and allows me to link the charging (and lots of other power bits in the house) together so that the car will use "excess" solar during the day to charge and the the cheapest 30 min slots at night as the tariff I am on alters  per 30 mins. (there are even times when you get payed to use power though these are infrequent) Though with Covid I do not visit work every day the commute is 20 miles so well within the battery to just use electric power and I can "fight" to get one of the two charge points at work, though this should increase soon . I agree that the app can be a bit flaky and was off for most of today but when working is good. I have the car set to warm up in the morning now it has gone a bit cold, during the summer I had it set to cool at work before the journey home. So far I am very happy with the car and even more so as I did a deal with the dealer just before they were locked down to get their demo with 400 miles on it and a major discount.  The car is that complex I learn something new each time I take it out, often by accident :giggle: Also signed up to podpoint as you can get a free top-up at Tesco using their app. I have charged many times in the rain and it is no problem just always put the caps back on and do not try to drive off with the flap open :rofl:

 

John.    

HI MarkyG82.

I'm new to using my L&K IV.  Done about 700 miles so far in 2 weeks (been on holiday in UK).

 

Charging everyday is fine in good weather and not really a problem but in bad weather it's not pleasant since my 13amp point is on an exterior wall.

Now looking to get some sort of cover above where I park (front of house so cannot be too big).

Been Ok so far for short trips (less than 60 miles) since I can get good use from the battery without much need for petrol use.

Once the battery has gone then just using the petrol on motorway is not so fuel efficient as I would like.

Guess that's gonna be the case with any hybrid vehicle.

 

Once the battery has run out then it just turns into normal 1.4 TSI (but with the added battery and motor weight).

 

Guess the advantage may be that the engine will still cut out when coasting or descending hills (not sure if this is the case at motorway speed?).

 

Guess the better way to think of it is that it's a 1.4 TSI with the added advantage of being to do shirt trips on pure electric (or hybrid). So for city driving (which is when a car is usually at its worst in terms of fuel economy) you can make massive gains by burning zero petrol.

The battery does get recharge a bit on motorways when going downhill and you're not going so fast the the natural advantage of the down slope is lost.

 

It will vary between, all engine used to keep you up to speed, using virtual no petrol (coasting), charge the battery whilst coasting.  As soon as the car slows done a bit the engine will come back in and stop the battery recharge. You can watch it happening on the e-mode display.

 

Worth noting that I tried the SPORT mode option for re-charging the battery and it works for me - soty forces the engine to go into charging battery mode - I guess it';s because SPORT mode force the car to add the battery power to boost performance so when not needed (not accelerating) it tries to keep a good amount of battery in reserve !!!

 

Not sure if using sport mode to get the battery to recharge will aid overall economy. Probably  better to start a long journey with a full charge in e-mode then when you get out of town switch to hybrid mode manual and set it leave some percentage in the battery for use when at destination. If running in hybrid you can still floor the loud pedal and get full sport acceleration. I was suprised how it takes off when I tried this.

I agree about the fuel saving being better if in non-Sport mode but is does sound like something worth trying especially when it's impossible to get a charge any other way when doing a long journey and stop overs at hotel etc.

 

The thing about the Sport mode re-charging is that it's a "hidden function" - it would better if there was a re-charge mode which gave a you a selectable option to use petrol power to charge the battery which is what I suppose a non-plug-in hybrid is doing most of the time and that seems to give great fuel economy in those cars.

 

I like the idea that you can sort of protect a part of the battery power with a setting for the end of a journey sort of use.

 

So if cruising on the motorway in hybrid mode, how long till the battery is dead? Or does it naturally keep an amount in reserve? I understand that you can select a battery level to keep and you can have a full charge mode (petrol only) but what about leaving the house on a trip and not changing from default hybrid mode?

 

24 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

So if cruising on the motorway in hybrid mode, how long till the battery is dead? Or does it naturally keep an amount in reserve? I understand that you can select a battery level to keep and you can have a full charge mode (petrol only) but what about leaving the house on a trip and not changing from default hybrid mode?

 

See my earlier post on this. I did about 200 miles mainly at 70 mph in hybrid mode then stopped for lunch with about 20% battery left. When I set off again it went into e mode without realising and used what was left in the battery in only a few miles. Even then it seems to always keep enough battery for the first few yards when setting off from a standstill.

That really interesting. Don't suppose you noted the mpg when you stopped?

I didn't but it was well over 60 mpg. When I filled up at destination which included some city driving at the end I only needed to put in about 5 gallons which worked out at 60.4 mpg.

you can use the skoda connect app to check mpg for every journey - 3 options just like on the dash computer - since start, since fuel, long term.

 

The app gives a little graph / histogram of the trips shows mpg.

 

When all battery used it show 313 mpg - anytime it also uses the engine it will show what percentage was emission free, then takes petrol use into account.

 

This give you all sort of variations from about 40mpg for all engine worked with normal sort mixed driving to 300mpg if virtually no petrol used.

 

Short trips with full charge in normal e mode should always show 300ish mpg.  Anything less means that you must have used the engine at some point.

When it's driven on petrol only, and the car's fully loaded, is it crap to drive?

 

It's a big car and 1.4 seems too small? Am worried I'd miss the 2.0/4x4 in my current Superb.

 

Otherwise seems like a great car.

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I drove two journeys last wekend fullylaiden car, 2 big kids, 2 adults, full boot and 2 dogs

 

Worked perfectly fine and still pulled when needed

I had the same concern. Swaped from 190 DSG sportline 4x4 to the new IV.

 

If you can't do without the great acceleration and strong pulling power always being available then you may well be disappointed.

 

You can get about the same or slightly better acceleration in the IV in sport mode, but that will not be there UNLESS you have battery power to  support the petrol engine - so on short trips you're OK anything after the battery is gone will be petrol only.

 

The 1.4 engine still give 150bhp but the IV is a bit heavier so you will not get the same performance, plus you will really start to hear the engine which the TDI will not have.

 

Having had the 4x4 TDI for 15 mths I never got it to go to 4 wheel drive mode (auto / intelligent setup) so no idea about the potential for worse grip in IV.

 

  • 1 month later...

Hi All !

So i received my Supeb L&K iV today, what a beautiful car.

It is a EU / Benelux model, but I also miss the things highlighted before, which disappeared between last year and this year edition.

 

As for the Canton soundsystem, I was expecting more of it. Not that it is bad, but it lacks that premium sound. I should add that despite a dedicated volume setting, the subwoofer is as good as non-existent to my hearing.

 

I would be happy to answer any question you might have !

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Enjoy your new car!

 

I do love mine and the sound is good but not what I was expecting.

 

All the best

Some interesting things on this thread, I'm collecting my Superb iV L&K estate next Friday and can't wait. 

 

I'm switching from a Kodiaq 190 DSG Edition which I've had since they were released in 2017, so expecting to make some overall economy savings (other than the tax after year 1!),  Having an Ohme intelligent charge point filled on Monday, this will auto charge at the cheapest electricity price.  We've just switched to Octopus Energy agile tariff, so hoping to get very low recharge costs, apparently at times we'd even get paid to use electricity, so we'll be putting the heavy use appliances such as washer and tumble dryer to run over night too. 

 

My return commute to/from work is just under 20 miles, so should get that out of the battery, at weekend I'll be travelling to our holiday home which is around 40 miles, mainly motorway, so should do well in hybrid mode, and can charge from an outside 3 pin plug, take dogs to beach etc. on electric whilst there, charge overnight before we come home and again home in hybrid.  Where I probably will suffer a little is on my annual carp fishing trip to France, fully loaded with 2 sets of gear and a roofbox on top!  

 

Must admit I'm a little disappointed to read that they've changed a few things in the spec, such as no longer having the removable torch in the boot, must admit the one in the Kodiaq has come in useful on occasions.  Sounds like I may be a little disappointed in the Canton system as well! But still looking forward to getting in and driving it. 

Hi,

 

Agile has not been great over the last week but hopefully it will be back to normal soon, I switched onto Agile in June and we have had a few "plunge" days which is great as you can get paid to use up the power. One thing I have found great over the last few days where it is cold in the morning I set the car to heat up to 23 for when I am ready to leave. The issue I have found with the cold dark days is the battery range has dipped quite a bit :-( Still very happy with mine and manage to do most of my journeys on only battery. I have an OpenEVSE charger as I admit to being a bit of a geek and have integrated the system into their total monitoring system as I have solar and it integrates with this and lots of other smart bits around the house. The Skoda app is a bit flaky but when working is great for adjusting/monitoring the car.

 

John

  • 1 month later...

First 1.500 km done with my Superb iV. Absolutely love the car.

Overwall average consumption of 3.3l/100 km (71 mpg) and 13.9 kWh/100km (4.45 mi/kWh).

Best I can get from electric mode only ranges from 38km to 42km (I think more can be achieved with higher outside temperatures). Therefore I mainly use EV mode for any trip less than 40km and hybrid mode for anything above.

Considering that most of my trips are outside cities, I am pretty happy with that result.

 

 

@iV_grey An amazing average fuel consumption for the petrol.

If you start a journey with a full charge and a full fuel tank how far could you travel and how many litres does the tank hold?

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I’ve never tested that but it does say about 380 miles when you start up, and full tank costs about 50 quid 55 quid at the moment

 

I’m sure if you’re going to do that distance you would’ve just the hybrid settings sorted recuperated more energy for the battery

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