Worth mentioning that with ordinary Cruise Control the cat can exceed the set speed on downhills.

21 minutes ago, Seasider said:

And the key words are "hold the wheel lightly" because the tighter you hold it, the more powerful lane assist works, hence the problems people have and how they make it dangerous.

So why hold it like that Have always just had a light hold on it Even when I drove buses I didnt hold it like it was life or death. As you are saying its PEOPLE who are making it dangerous by not driving properly. Like anything, if you misuse it you can have problems. As an example I recently went to NZ and drove a Mitsi ASX. What a heap of crap. My Daughter said why was I wandering all over the road. I said because Im used to a car that is intelligent enough to stay in the lane and not wander. Yes I could have paid more attention and did after a while but to say the system is dangerous is rubbish because you have just said its because PEOPLE make it dangerous by not using it properly. Sorry but not sorry and yes at times when Ive been lazy and not put an indicator on it has vibrated to remind me and used a bit more resistance, which incidentally ITS SUPPOSED TO because the driver has done the wrong thing. One place is where I join the motorway outside our village is two lanes that go into one on the onramp. If no traffic i just change over and it vibrates going over the centre marking where the lanes join. Not a problem . Not dangerous or anything.

4 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

So why hold it like that Have always just had a light hold on it Even when I drove buses I didnt hold it like it was life or death. As you are saying its PEOPLE who are making it dangerous by not driving properly. Like anything, if you misuse it you can have problems. As an example I recently went to NZ and drove a Mitsi ASX. What a heap of crap. My Daughter said why was I wandering all over the road. I said because Im used to a car that is intelligent enough to stay in the lane and not wander. Yes I could have paid more attention and did after a while but to say the system is dangerous is rubbish because you have just said its because PEOPLE make it dangerous by not using it properly. Sorry but not sorry and yes at times when Ive been lazy and not put an indicator on it has vibrated to remind me and used a bit more resistance, which incidentally ITS SUPPOSED TO because the driver has done the wrong thing. One place is where I join the motorway outside our village is two lanes that go into one on the onramp. If no traffic i just change over and it vibrates going over the centre marking where the lanes join. Not a problem . Not dangerous or anything.

So you're agreeing with me?

Ok I looked in my OBDELEVEN today and you can turn Lane Assist off with it. You can also when enabling it put commands for it in the MMI.

You can turn it off, turn it on or tell it to remember last setting. So there is the solution to the problem of it auto enabling on restart

Pre 2024 and 2024 /25 are different kettles of fish. Or cans of worms.

On 05/06/2025 at 09:24, Aldfort said:

Worth mentioning that with ordinary Cruise Control the cat can exceed the set speed on downhills.

Not in my 2021 Karoq!

15 hours ago, Routemaster1461 said:

Not in my 2021 Karoq!

Well defo does in my 2024 Kamiq and also says it in the handbook.

Regarding those who say its not worthwhile indicating when changing lanes. Dont come to Australia then as you can get a ticket for not indicating something as simple as a lane change.

Edited 8 June, 20258 Jun by Exkiwi

On 07/06/2025 at 21:25, Exkiwi said:

Ok I looked in my OBDELEVEN today and you can turn Lane Assist off with it. You can also when enabling it put commands for it in the MMI.

You can turn it off, turn it on or tell it to remember last setting. So there is the solution to the problem of it auto enabling on restart

What model/version of OBDELEVEN ???

What model/version of OBDELEVEN

3 hours ago, marty1945 said:

What model/version of OBDELEVEN ???

What model/version of OBDELEVEN

Whatever is the latest software for it and it is the white original device

DONT NEED IT Look here 2nd pic tap left icon and follow on Personally I think lane assist is great just set it up correctly. Cant see how it would cause accidents as if you are holding the wheel properly its easy to overide it. I hired a car without it and wandered all over the place as was so used to it keeping me in lane I forgot and had to concentrate a lot more

1 hour ago, Exkiwi said:

I hired a car without lane enforce and wandered all over the place as was so used to it keeping me in lane I forgot and can't drive safely any more.

Has anyone with Lane Keep assist crashed or collided with anything yet with it giving a warning tug or twitch? @Paws4Thot have you been driving any of the more recent built cars and had any issues with Lane Keep Assist or noticed that because of it making you aware that you wander about in your lane?

I have noticed that Lane Assist has made me aware of when I am straying towards the edge of my lane, so it is elpful in that respect and it odes sharpen your senses as regards avoiding this before Lane Assist needs to warn you.

Maybe, too, we need to remember that it is not just about lane markings, it is about safe boundaries, e.g. getting too close to other "lane markers" such as banks and high verges.

7 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Has anyone with Lane Keep assist crashed or collided with anything yet with it giving a warning tug or twitch? @Paws4Thot have you been driving any of the more recent built cars and had any issues with Lane Keep Assist or noticed that because of it making you aware that you wander about in your lane?

Nope because I switch it off the minute I start off!

@Ootohere - I have you permablocked and only even saw your nonsense because @sussamb quoted it. Since he did, reliance on Lane Enforce to keep you in lane reduces your ability to stay in lane and/or use deviation from lane as a signal that you need a break.

@Seasider See above.

11 minutes ago, Paws4Thot said:

@Ootohere - I have you permablocked and only even saw your nonsense because @sussamb quoted it. Since he did, reliance on Lane Enforce to keep you in lane reduces your ability to stay in lane and/or use deviation from lane as a signal that you need a break.

@Seasider See above.

Oh that's good, nice and non-committal 🤣

I only use lane assist when I'm on the motorway - I don't always use it, but I do most of the time for long journeys. It does mess up now and again (when three lanes become two, etc) but most of the time I find it a helpful feature. I admit, I use it mainly to change/clean my sunglasses/glasses and know that in the few seconds I maybe can't see the best, the car isn't going to crash (ACC is on too).

Mine isn't the Travel Assist thingy, so if I let it steer for me, it sort of bounces from left to right lines until I get fed up with it. It's a nice safety feature for those lapses in concentration, but like with assisted braking, it should not be relied upon. If you're constantly triggering it, then you need to stop for a coffee. The same goes for touching the wheel lightly and letting it steer for you - simple Lane Assist is not good enough for this. If you want autonomy, buy a Tesla. These are ADAS systems for safety, not autonomous driving.

ACC, Travel Assist, etc, are totally different.

Would you rely completely on BSA (Blind Spot Assist), or do you still check? I know I do.

On 05/06/2025 at 09:24, Aldfort said:

Worth mentioning that with ordinary Cruise Control the cat can exceed the set speed on downhills.

Dumb cruise can, ACC doesn't. Driving with ACC is so much easier - means I can look out at signs, other idiots, etc. I still hover over the brake and do stuff myself sometimes, but I trust it.

Edited 19 July, 202519 Jul by OccyVRS

Driving with ACC is so much easier - means I can look out at signs, other idiots, etc

Do you read the paper as well?... When I started bus driving i was told in no uncertain terms to "Read the road up as far as you can see" Then when a car 8 up the queue brake lights go on you brake lightly as those behind it will be doing and by the time it gets to me i will be slowed down to match.

No looking at the scenery or other idiots etc Keep eyes on whether Aids are working or not. My trip in NZ in the Mitsi wasnt as bad as some tried to make out. I knew the roads I was on and they were by no means straight and the car moved around a bit more than i am used to. Only took a short time to adjust. But it emphasized how much easier it is with Lane Assist than without it.

Most of these will work over various models You can try and if they dont work wont hurt anything in most cases. All work on a 2019 Tiguan and several have worked on the Kamiq., The ones I have tried and didnt work have not affected anything

Google Docs

BEST ALL TIGUAN ELECTRIC MODS.docx

Tiguan Electronic Modifications 1 Horn on lock 09 Central Electrics Access 31347 Adaptation Akustische-Rueckmeldung entriegen (unlock acoustic feedback) Akustische-Rueckmeldung verriegen (Lock...

44 minutes ago, Exkiwi said:

Driving with ACC is so much easier - means I can look out at signs, other idiots, etc

Do you read the paper as well?... When I started bus driving i was told in no uncertain terms to "Read the road up as far as you can see" Then when a car 8 up the queue brake lights go on you brake lightly as those behind it will be doing and by the time it gets to me i will be slowed down to match.

No looking at the scenery or other idiots etc Keep eyes on whether Aids are working or not. My trip in NZ in the Mitsi wasnt as bad as some tried to make out. I knew the roads I was on and they were by no means straight and the car moved around a bit more than i am used to. Only took a short time to adjust. But it emphasized how much easier it is with Lane Assist than without it.

Most of these will work over various models You can try and if they dont work wont hurt anything in most cases. All work on a 2019 Tiguan and several have worked on the Kamiq., The ones I have tried and didnt work have not affected anything

Google Docs

BEST ALL TIGUAN ELECTRIC MODS.docx

Tiguan Electronic Modifications 1 Horn on lock 09 Central Electrics Access 31347 Adaptation Akustische-Rueckmeldung entriegen (unlock acoustic feedback) Akustische-Rueckmeldung verriegen (Lock...

Right -

19 hours ago, Paws4Thot said:

  20 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

I hired a car without lane enforce and wandered all over the place as was so used to it keeping me in lane I forgot and can't drive safely any more.

Edited 20 July, 202520 Jul by OccyVRS

2 hours ago, OccyVRS said:

Right -

22 hours ago, Paws4Thot said:

  23 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

I hired a car without lane enforce and wandered all over the place as was so used to it keeping me in lane I forgot and can't drive safely any more.

That is not what was said and is a doctored quote I have further explained but if you are going to quote people put what was actually said as the quote and not alter it to suit yourself

Edited 20 July, 202520 Jul by Exkiwi

3 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

That is not what was said and is a doctored quote I have further explained but if you are going to quote people put what was actually said as the quote and not alter it to suit yourself

Ok, I've decided your posts are not worth any more of my time. Blocked.

On 05/06/2025 at 09:24, Aldfort said:

Worth mentioning that with ordinary Cruise Control the cat can exceed the set speed on downhills.

If that happens then you don't actually have a working cruise control. That is the entire point of it, to maintain a set speed.

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

If that happens then you don't actually have a working cruise control. That is the entire point of it, to maintain a set speed.

No, it clearly says in the handbook that the Cruise that is fitted my not maintain the set speed on downhills. It is not hill decent control and therefore has no ability to apply the brakes.

I think that you are getting a little confused here, the first Superb I had with cruise control would keep the set speed going up or down hill as well as on the level , what it would not do is react to slower vehicles in front, thus requiring me to either overtake them or to alter the set speed of the car.

Later models came with adaptive cruise control that would slow the car to match the speed of slower ones in front unless I overtook them when once again my car would maintain the set speed regardless of it I was going up or down a hill.

Hill descent control is something very different and is designed for use on very steep hills in particular if you are off roading in an off road vehicle like Kodiaq 4x4, Land Rover, Range Rover, Jeep etc and will get you safely to the bottom of the hill with each wheel being independently braked to maintain a safe slow speed and keep the car safe.

There are loads of videos on YouTube that show and explain how descent hill control works and it is completely different to cruise control.

On a steep hill standard cruise control will not necessarily maintain a set speed as it relies on engine braking. On a motorway this is usually enough to keep a set speed as slopes are slacker but elsewhere on steeper inclines the car can go faster than the set speed.

Believe me... I've tested it on a number of hills here.

Active CC is very different and relies on radar distancing. It can also apply brakes and doesn't just rely on engine braking.

Edited 20 July, 202520 Jul by skomaz

Exactly. Cruise control will not maintain set speed going downhill under certain circumstances, that's why I switch my DSG to manual and select a more appropriate gear. Even that doesn't always stop the speed increasing.