Fabia vRS - Future Classic ?

[VanhireBoys]

I say definitely yes .. There are a few left totally standard that need minded now

 

I saw this and its worth it - I cany take my eyes off it

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skoda-fabia-vrs/233769622459?hash=item366dc15bbb:g:tTgAAOSwfmFfo2kZ

 

This makes mine look a right s**tebox but mine gets used a lot and it has loads of war wounds

 

I would love a totally standard one to keep but - I have no where to keep it and to bring it into Ireland it will cost me €2400 in nOX charges and €640 in VRT ... and then the tax is €673 per annum 

 

Hopefully this car finds a nice sympathetic home..... !

[RallyeSport77]

Id say so yes,  Id read somewhere a little while ago the fabia vRS tdi was destined to be a future classic.

 

Trouble is they fall into the wrong hands, I paid good money for mine with 26k on the clock in October 2017 for £6k, mine had xenons, leather, cruise from factory painted black magic.

 

People on Facebook were slating the price of it, but unfortunately the Facebook pages are full of lads who own the ropey examples and not prepared to spend the money.

 

I too hope it goes to a good home!

 

Dean

[VanhireBoys]

Absolutely agree ! 

 

I'd say a good 70-80% of vRS mk1's have been modified in some shape or form (mine included) This isn't necessarily bad but if a car has 26k miles and is original then it's sacrilege. 

 

At 6k yes it's dear but look at the big picture ! The Golf GTi, XR3, Astra GTE and 205 GTi could have been had for small money 20 years ago but one with 40k FSH and garaged cant be got for any less than 10k. 

 

6k will discourage the "wrong hands" Even a MK2 Escort shell is big bucks ! Throw in matching numbers and an RS badge and it's crazy prices

 

The original ones need to be kept original now as over the next 5-6 years numbers will decline sharply ! 

 

These cars are a happy accident and they are the last of the affordable fun vehicles - They are just so good and need to be kept alive !

 

 

 

 

[grafter95]

Have to agree before i got mine every time one came up for sale locally to me it had allready sold by the time i enquired about it.I eventually found my on autotrader in 2013 and can honestly say it was the best car i have had it let me down once in the six and half years i had it

[Lofty]

The image these cars have now will pass, the cheap $hitboxes will all disappear and we'll hopefully be left with some lovely examples of rare cars. It's going to take a while but it'll happen.

 

Look at the images Vaxhall Novas, Saxo's, Clios etc have been through, now look at the rarity of nice examples and how much they command in value.

 

The key is to stockpile the rare bits before they disappear and keep hold of them for the future

[grafter95]

You only have to see what a lot of the hot hatches from the 80s and 90s are going for now that are mainly standard.I only.got rid my mine because sills where shagged and could not get replacements.Some dealers are a bit optimistic with there prices when i p/x my fabia for the octy they offered me a grand for it and all they did was give it a clean and then they had it for sale at £2800.Saw it for sale again last month at a dealer in washington for £3500

[DieselMonte]

On 15/11/2020 at 16:35, VanhireBoys said:

I say definitely yes .. There are a few left totally standard that need minded now

 

I saw this and its worth it - I cany take my eyes off it

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Skoda-fabia-vrs/233769622459?hash=item366dc15bbb:g:tTgAAOSwfmFfo2kZ

 

This makes mine look a right s**tebox but mine gets used a lot and it has loads of war wounds

 

I would love a totally standard one to keep but - I have no where to keep it and to bring it into Ireland it will cost me €2400 in nOX charges and €640 in VRT ... and then the tax is €673 per annum 

 

Hopefully this car finds a nice sympathetic home..... !

I thought I was bad at 1700 in NOx and 700 odd in vrt!

[VanhireBoys]

51 minutes ago, DieselMonte said:

I thought I was bad at 1700 in NOx and 700 odd in vrt!

 

Yeah welcome to the rip off republic...... ! 1700 in NOx is a tight kick in the h**e and for what ?  To fill the coffers of a corrupt regime ...

 

We aren't allowed to drive what we want and what we like. Makes me want to scream 

 

There are loads of nice cars in the UK with proper specs, proper service history and the right money but we just get screwed when we try to import them here. We are left with total and utter piles of Done Deal junk with inter-galactic miles and abused every one of them. 

 

The like of that vRS just does not exist here - Its Paddy keep driving and dont service till it stops. 

 

My tax is €673 but im going to keep the car on the road for as long as I possibly can as a two finger salute to the  establishment ! 

 

Nice to see another Briskodian in Ireland !! 

[J.R.]

Do you pay the VRT tax only once on first registration or every year?

 

I like the system here in France where you pay only once for the carte grise and its valid for as long as you own the vehicle, first registration of an imported second hand car does cost more especially if its a high CO2 rating and soon there will be a lardar5e tax as well, you could get hit up for €30K for a new Wagmobile but a 10 year old Octavia II 2.0 TDi cost me a very reasonable €107, its a shame the Yeti persuaded me to sell it, for the €130 pa insurance it would have been worth keeping as a spare car which is what many do.

 

I was hammered on the Yeti because I had not budgetted for the malus tax on first registration, it would have been a lot less had I bought one one year older but it was still only in the region of what you are speaking of for VRT and is a one off payment which I hope will be amortised over at least 10 years, my last car (MK1 Octavia) gave me 13 years.

[DieselMonte]

4 hours ago, VanhireBoys said:

 

Yeah welcome to the rip off republic...... ! 1700 in NOx is a tight kick in the h**e and for what ?  To fill the coffers of a corrupt regime ...

 

We aren't allowed to drive what we want and what we like. Makes me want to scream 

 

There are loads of nice cars in the UK with proper specs, proper service history and the right money but we just get screwed when we try to import them here. We are left with total and utter piles of Done Deal junk with inter-galactic miles and abused every one of them. 

 

The like of that vRS just does not exist here - Its Paddy keep driving and dont service till it stops. 

 

My tax is €673 but im going to keep the car on the road for as long as I possibly can as a two finger salute to the  establishment ! 

 

Nice to see another Briskodian in Ireland !! 

I live on the border and if I was smart I would've just gotten a Northern license like everyone else. Customs only bothers you if someone snitches on you. Plenty of people around me have Northern cars and get away with it. Apparently Nox is gone up again so thats quashed any hopes of me getting a mk1 vRS, it would actually be cheaper for me to take my old sdi and make it into a vRS wannabe. As opposed to going through all of the hoops and jumps of getting my Monte Carlo fully legal another time.

 

4 hours ago, J.R. said:

Do you pay the VRT tax only once on first registration or every year?

 

I like the system here in France where you pay only once for the carte grise and its valid for as long as you own the vehicle, first registration of an imported second hand car does cost more especially if its a high CO2 rating and soon there will be a lardar5e tax as well, you could get hit up for €30K for a new Wagmobile but a 10 year old Octavia II 2.0 TDi cost me a very reasonable €107, its a shame the Yeti persuaded me to sell it, for the €130 pa insurance it would have been worth keeping as a spare car which is what many do.

 

I was hammered on the Yeti because I had not budgetted for the malus tax on first registration, it would have been a lot less had I bought one one year older but it was still only in the region of what you are speaking of for VRT and is a one off payment which I hope will be amortised over at least 10 years, my last car (MK1 Octavia) gave me 13 years.

Vrt is a one off payment on first registration on a car in the south of Ireland. It in and of itself is a certain percentage of the cars value in the south. So for my Monte Carlo it was 17% of its value at that time on the market in Ireland, not what I payed for it. The NOx charge we speak of is a new tax applied to all imports at the start of this year. It is impacted by the NOx emissions produced by the car and is mainly aimed at diesels, so the Irish government can say they are doing something for the environment. The nox emissions is calculated in certain brackets and it worked out to be 1700 euro ON ITS OWN! The vrt itself was "cheap" because its a low CO2 emissions, however the NOx was a joke because my car is "high emissions" and bad for the environment. Having said that My yearly tax is only €170 because my car is a euro 5 diesel with a Dpf and "low emissions". My explanation sounds farcical and it is, because the Irish government has been very good at taxing people to death under the excuse of "saving the environment". As a final "kick" I had to pay for my own plates (I was going to get personalized ones anyway so it didnt matter) and had to get my Mot transferred (I can't remember If I had to pay to take it through) and the NOx payment alone would have paid for my insurance (Very expensive since I'm under 25). Lastly, I STILL managed to save money on it because even a 100k+ mile curb rashed  75hp diesel Monte Carlo cost more than the immaculate 105Hp one I have now.

In closing, Irelands customs is misery personified and that means we have to either "ride dirty" on uk plates or dish out a small fortune for the few clean examples of cars here.

/End Rant.

[VanhireBoys]

A very well explained breakdown of our VRT and Tax system - it's a joke at best and not fair at all 

 

We don't see customs about here until a yellow played vehicle is in the area - then they weep with greed 

 

If you pulled stunts like that in France the motorists would wreck the joint ! We just get screwed at every turn ! 

 

Loads of folk around the border will get away but I'd be guaranteed to get caught !

 

All you lads are lucky in the UK !

[Chris Berry]

I miss my VRS dearly.

 

Sold it last year for the pricely sum of £1200. Considering the age (2003 53 Reg) & mileage (18500) is was in very very good condition.

 

Photos taken one week before I sold it........

 

 

[Chris Berry]

That should read 185000 miles!

(For some reason I'm not getting an option to allow me to edit my post)

[DieselMonte]

24 minutes ago, Chris Berry said:

That should read 185000 miles!

(For some reason I'm not getting an option to allow me to edit my post)

I was looking at the 18,500 and was thinking that you practically gave it away. Vrs' over here are not only hard to find for sale but they dont usually go as cheap as that and trust they would be without tax and with many mysterious stains on the white seats.Having said that, there are 2 mk1 vrs', my mk2 monte carlo and a mk3 monte carlo in my (small) town. Being close to a skoda dealer probably helps.

[TMB]

51 minutes ago, Chris Berry said:

 

(For some reason I'm not getting an option to allow me to edit my post)

 

Click on the 3 dots at the top right of your post. You should then see the edit option.

 

[Chris Berry]

5 hours ago, TMB said:

 

Click on the 3 dots at the top right of your post. You should then see the edit option.

 

Yes, I know that. But the edit option isn't there..

See....

 

[Breezy_Pete]

Try on another device.

Actually, it may just be too long since the post was made. There's a time limit for editing for non-Freedom members, I seem to remember.

Edited 26 November, 2020 by Wino

[TMB]

18 hours ago, Chris Berry said:

Yes, I know that. But the edit option isn't there..

 

Fair enough. Must be the time limit thing, as Wino says.

Edited 27 November, 2020 by TMB

[HSVRS]

I’ve recently bought a 39k mile 56 plate that i have just finished a minor restoration on. The old boy who owned it left it sat outside for a while before he gave up driving. 
 It needed: 

new headlights (originals cloudy) 

coolant rad (minor leak)

a/c condenser 

discs and pads all round 

new rear brake callipers   
new windscreen scuttle 

4 alloy refurb & 4 new ps3 tyres 

four new centre badges 

new vrs grille badge (local TPS had one left in stock) 

new Skoda grille badge 

cam belt & water pump 

egr valve 

a/c hp sensor 

all parts I purchased from TPS and are all genuine. 
I’ve bought the car to keep long term as part of my collection & hopefully a sound investment. I always wanted one when they were new (I wasn’t old enough to drive then). I’m lucky enough to have company car for a daily and the fabia is garaged for summer use only. I’ll likely rotate the fabia on my Nurburgring trips with my performance toy  

 

[DieselMonte]

1 minute ago, HSVRS said:

I’ve recently bought a 39k mile 56 plate that i have just finished a minor restoration on. The old boy who owned it left it sat outside for a while before he gave up driving. 
 It needed: 

new headlights (originals cloudy) 

coolant rad (minor leak)

a/c condenser 

discs and pads all round 

new rear brake callipers   
new windscreen scuttle 

4 alloy refurb & 4 new ps3 tyres 

four new centre badges 

new vrs grille badge (local TPS had one left in stock) 

new Skoda grille badge 

cam belt & water pump 

egr valve 

a/c hp sensor 

all parts I purchased from TPS and are all genuine. 
I’ve bought the car to keep long term as part of my collection & hopefully a sound investment. I always wanted one when they were new (I wasn’t old enough to drive then). I’m lucky enough to have company car for a daily and the fabia is garaged for summer use only. I’ll likely rotate the fabia on my Nurburgring trips with my performance toy  

 

That is clean! Hard to find fabias in that condition these days. 

[Lukek0702]

Anyone shed me some light on the best option with my VRS SE

 

65K miles

completely untouched

im the 2nd owner (previous had it 14 years)

 

No 922.

 

[grady71]

22 hours ago, Lukek0702 said:

Anyone shed me some light on the best option with my VRS SE

 

65K miles

completely untouched

im the 2nd owner (previous had it 14 years)

 

No 922.

 

From what I read VRSs are only going to go up in value. Even more with an SE version so keep it and look after it. Most probably have yourself a sound investment. 

[VanhireBoys]

+1 on keeping it. 

 

She will need to be dry stored at least in the winter time - Keep the maintenance records stamped up to date with a reputable indy or main dealer. 

 

Keep a close watch on the bodywork especially around the structure and chassis legs although in fairness they don't suffer too badly yet. 

 

Keep the MOT's up to date even you aren't using her - this will prove the mileage.

 

No long idle periods - Get her out and use her sympathetically

 

In around 5-7 years time start appearing at shows and stuff - even a feature in a mag wont do any harm - Get her seen and word will spread - Don't advertise straight away and by the time you decide to sell all the collectors will be going daft for her 

 

I expect that 2023 will see an increase as its 20 years since the start of the Mk1 vRS  - 2033 will see them go stratospheric 

 

on a side note a good friend of mine has landed a pretty unremarkable original Galway registered 02 1.4 MPi which is burgandy and has 27k miles which belonged to a lady who passed away in Salthill - It has all the paperwork and is totally mint and he intends to sit on it so its not just the vRS that will increase - Look at the 1.1 Mk2 Escort .. They have risen exponentially in the last 15 years ! 

 

I don't mind somebody keeping a car as an investment as long as it get used seen and enjoyed - to put a car in a bubble in some bricked up collection never to see the light of day again is an absolute travesty 

[DieselMonte]

Clean vRS' and pristine normal fabias will become classics I would imagine. A car like mine could never be worth anything for example. Nor will a vRS with 330k miles, JOM coilovers and a HXRNY sticker on the windshield be worth as much as a completely original vRS either. For now though, I don't see much point in worrying about keeping a car locked away because they might go up in value. I can speak from experience here when I say it does more harm than good. Tyres get flat spots, batteries go dead, fuel goes off,mould appears (and fabias are notorious for having dodgy seals that let in moisture), mice and rats can take up residence in it and do a lot of damage if they want to. Mice were in my car, around the engine too. They didn't seem to chew much of the wiring but they somehow got between the roof and the headliner. Found droppings on the top of the headliner, sound deadening on the roof chewed and a stain of I presume mouse pee around the spot where the sun visor would fold up into the headliner, nasty. I don't think that at this time its worthwhile to put some storage as opposed to just driving and enjoying them

 

[sepulchrave]

All modern mass produced cars are landfill, it's only genuinely scarce variants and exotica that will really have any future value as classics.

It's like suggesting that my 2.0 MPI will be more valuable because it's much rarer than a VRS, it's pub guff and I'm gonna drive mine into the ground then scrap it.