Couple of quick questions from a little jolly just now.  Re both, consulted the pretty rubbish manual but to no avail.

 

Re Stop/Start, is it temp dependant?  I usually just switch it off after I start the car but, forgot this time and found that on stopping after about 10 miles the SS didn’t cut in.  Is this temperature related?  Today’s drive was between +2 and +4.5c.

 

And re the external mirrors, I’ve finally figured out why they weren’t demising.  I assumed that the mirror demist was on the same switch as the rear window demist, as with every other car I’ve ever owned that had heated mirrors.  Once I clocked the “heat the mirrors by twisting me round to to here you idiot” position on the mirror adjust switch they were cleared pretty quickly.  To my question, is this on a timer so if I forget to switch it off then it will switch off after so many minutes?  Means I don’t have to be too paranoid re switching them off, or alternatively in winter just leave in the heated pos so they come on automatically.

 

Thoughts?

Hi

 

Regarding stop/start - I'm not sure it is temp dependant - it might be when the engine is cold and 'harder' to start but I also  think / believe it is more to do with what you have drawing power at the time - ie Air conditioning / Heated seats / Heated Windscreen / Heated back window etc. SS only kicks in when it knows that it can start the engine again which is why sat stationary and the engine stops, after a while it starts up again. I discovered this on my old Audi and I imagine that our Karoqs are the same.

 

Regarding the external mirrors - switching the knob around to defrost leaves it on and it doesn't turn off at all. You need to remember to switch it off once defrosted which is a pain. A bit like the heated seats - turn them on and they stay at the level you switched them on to - eventually you fry - in my old Audi and my Wife's merc they drop down after a period of time which is much nicer. One of my pet peeves

 

Jon

 

Temperature related as in not only the Ambient temp but the temp asked for the interior. 

If set 16 degrees higher than the outside temp Stop / Start may not operate.

Do you get the grey bar at top of infotainment with an info symbol in it.

 

The reasons are at top, when you touch info, from memory includes : engine not at working temperature; high electrical load, air conditioning required to cool cabin, cabin requires heat; battery insufficient charge.   Vehicle ahead moved forward (if front radar is fitted). Maybe other messages, 

 

 

@JonVonWeston Unfortunately mine being a basic spec car (which seems to deffo have many advantages from electronics point of view) I don’t have any of the luxury items like heated seats and heated screen.  And in winter I miss both!!  All I had on was DRLs and radio.  Agree re the mirrors, agreed, it’s a tad annoying.  At least now I can properly demist my mirrors now!

 

@e-Roottoot  Deffo over 16c between inside and outside.  The heating was cranked up to 24c!!  
 

@SurreyJohn  Never seen a grey bar on the top if the infotainment system, apart from when I change the heating setting manually.  Will have a fiddle. 

 

I might bung the car on charge, do I just connect to the battery terminals or is it like jump starting, +ve terminal and the spur piece connected to the -ve terminal?

 

 

1 hour ago, DSL said:

I might bung the car on charge, do I just connect to the battery terminals or is it like jump starting, +ve terminal and the spur piece connected to the -ve terminal?

 

 

Pos to pos term on battery and neg to the block behind the battery per attached instructions in the manual. Don't connect both leads to the battery.

Cheers, thought it was the case.  I’m going to stick some tape over the neg terminal with an arrow pointing towards the earth point.  Not red tape of course, that would just plain confuse me.  

On 09/12/2020 at 13:30, DSL said:

 

 

And re the external mirrors, I’ve finally figured out why they weren’t demising.  I assumed that the mirror demist was on the same switch as the rear window demist, as with every other car I’ve ever owned that had heated mirrors.  Once I clocked the “heat the mirrors by twisting me round to to here you idiot” position on the mirror adjust switch they were cleared pretty quickly.  To my question, is this on a timer so if I forget to switch it off then it will switch off after so many minutes?  Means I don’t have to be too paranoid re switching them off, or alternatively in winter just leave in the heated pos so they come on automatically.

 

Thoughts?

 

The heated mirrors do turn off after a while, check the "convenience consumer" setting and you will see " Mirror heating" when it's actually on.

Hope this helps

Thanks for that, I didn’t think of looking in the settings.  Will have a mooch next time I’m out in the car.   

PS Just been out, can’t find any settings for heating mirrors.  Will have another look when the car is nice and warm.

If you select Menu, Vehicle, then use 'Selection' at the bottom to get to 'Vehicle Status', there is an auto stop/start symbol on the infotainment. Select this (even if it says 'No entries') and it will tell you whether stop/start is available, and if not, then why not. Reasons can be varied and many, including internal and external temperatures, power drain from electric consumers, how steep a hill you have stopped on, whether the front wheels are turned on a lock (so it doesn't cut when you are manoeuvring slowly) and, I have just discovered, that the drivers seat belt is undone! It will also tell you what instigated the previous start.

Cheers, will have a look at that, and all the other help, tomorrow. 

With Stop/Start the engine will only switch off if the consumers you are using don’t require the engine to be ‘on’ to run them. Coolant needs to be at temp, ac compressor not required, heated mirrors and rear window draw power from batt. To charge the batt the engine needs to be on. There’s also info running through ECU deciding this on if your seatbelt is plugged in or not. Don’t forget the front assist/acc is even watching traffic ahead to re-start car if vehicles ahead move off!  Effectively there are more reasons the car won’t turn off than it will! Not 

That’s not completely correct as car often stops engine at junction at end of street only a minute or so after a cold start. So it will stop if coolant not up to temperature. As it is a dodgy junction I now turn the system off until I have safely pulled away from it.

^^^ Correct, the ambient temp can be at freezing or a few degrees lower, the coolant and the engine oil cold, and as long as the battery is at a good charge and the demand on it not high because of heated screen rear screen, radio, lights on and heater desired temp turned up high the engine can stop within feet of having moved and then come to a halt.

My case was temp +2c, car fully warmed up and minimum toys switched on, latter mainly coz of not that many toys to switch on, no change to key position.  Heated rear screen was off by this time, as was my newly discovered heated mirror switch.  I’d just pulled up to stop at a junction, pulled away thinking “that’s odd” and then pulled over at the side of the road and same, no engine stop.  Not too worried as I usually switch SS off anyway, I’d just forgotten to do so this time.   Thinking low battery pay charge might be the issue.

On 11/12/2020 at 12:37, JohnD5314 said:

If you select Menu, Vehicle, then use 'Selection' at the bottom to get to 'Vehicle Status', there is an auto stop/start symbol on the infotainment. Select this (even if it says 'No entries') and it will tell you whether stop/start is available, and if not, then why not. Reasons can be varied and many, including internal and external temperatures, power drain from electric consumers, how steep a hill you have stopped on, whether the front wheels are turned on a lock (so it doesn't cut when you are manoeuvring slowly) and, I have just discovered, that the drivers seat belt is undone! It will also tell you what instigated the previous start.

tried that today to find:

 

 

The only leckie things I had running was headlights and good old Ken Bruce on R2.  Needed both LOL!  All other criteria should have been fine, seatbelt was on, wasn’t too cold, basically all the criteria for normal SS were in place.  It was a 30 mile round trip and the “fogged” bit of the message disappeared near the end, but not the excess power message.  When I got back I checked the battery voltage with a multimeter, engine off so not reading the alternator output, and it was 12.5V, a bit low.  Will check the battery tomorrow am after any float charge has dissipated, but I suspect my battery isn’t in the healthiest of conditions.  The car was built in late July 19 but not delivered, to me, until late June 20 so battery will have suffered the usual neglect in storage.

12.5V is reasonable, considering that a stop/ start battery is never charged to 100% to allow some capacity for regenerative charging.

Will see what it looks like tomorrow. 
 

PS To save me going out in the rain, these aren’t AGM type are they? 

Edited 16 December, 20205 yr by DSL

12.15v this morning, still in the green on above chart but will keep an eye on it.  I don’t suppose if the battery gets lower than that it’s a case of phoning Skoda CS up and saying, “oi, my battery is on its way out.  Can I have a new one please?”  ???

 

PS Checked and the battery is an EFB+, from googling a posh end lead acid battery.

 

 

PPS better pic of the charge indicator window.  Battery knows it’s not a totally happy battery.

 

 

 

 

Edited 17 December, 20205 yr by DSL

On 11/12/2020 at 12:37, JohnD5314 said:

If you select Menu, Vehicle, then use 'Selection' at the bottom to get to 'Vehicle Status', there is an auto stop/start symbol on the infotainment. Select this (even if it says 'No entries') and it will tell you whether stop/start is available, and if not, then why not. Reasons can be varied and many, including internal and external temperatures, power drain from electric consumers, how steep a hill you have stopped on, whether the front wheels are turned on a lock (so it doesn't cut when you are manoeuvring slowly) and, I have just discovered, that the drivers seat belt is undone! It will also tell you what instigated the previous start.

 

Yep, thanks for this but I'm not seeing this whatsoever - I'm have a Columbus unit. I'm starting to panic - lots of people on here talking about screen x or screen y and I don't seem to have any of them. I'll continue to investigate.

After several hours on charge yesterday the battery should be fully charged but this morning it was only up to 12.5V and the green indicator still showing on the battery.  I won’t be out until middle of next week and will see then if SS is playing.  If it’s not I’ll see what I can do re getting it sorted after NY. That’s complicated by the fact that my closest Skoda dealer is over 100 miles away after the closure of the Inverness one.  There is still VW dealer, for now, will see if I get pointed that way.

If the battery needs replaced under warranty the car need not go to a Dealership.

Skoda Assist can come to you, and Skoda UK the Warranty Provider having agreed that it is a valid warranty claim can arrange a battery being fitted.

Put it on charge for several more hours. Nowt to lose.

Re Skoda coming out:  Cheers, that’s great news.   
 

Re charging: Agreed,  nothing to loose, will get her hooked up again & leave her on overnight. 

Edited 19 December, 20205 yr by DSL