MY17 Superb Retrofitted with Direct TPMS

[RT_SGP]

Yay!!!! Thank you sir! 

[ApertureS]

11 hours ago, MartiniB said:

with alternative, independent, dTMPS kit these positions not required

 

 

additionally it will show temperature too

53€       2017 Direct TPMS Set works well since 2017. jun

3.61€    2020 Direct TPMS Set not tested yet
 

It might be cheaper and easier to install. But doesnt have the same integration and I personally wouldnt want that slapped on my dash.

[JR RS]

@RT_SGP - VCDS instructions below:-

 

 

Enable Direct TPMS from Gateway
Controller 19 – CAN Gateway
Security Access - enter 20103
Click “Installation List”
Activate “65 - Tire Pressure”
Click “Save Coding”

Adaptations
Go to:
Tire Pressure Monitoring 1
Change from "Not Coded" to "Coded"
Click “Do It!”


Disable Indirect TPMS
Controller 17 – Instruments
Coding
Select Long Coding Helper

Byte 4, Bit 0
Deactivate (Untick) “Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), Yes”

Byte 3, Bit 7
Activate (Tick) “Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS),Yes)”

Byte 11, Bit 2
Activate (Tick) “Tire pressure monitoring: BAP distance,Yes”



Modify ABS coding
Controller 03 – ABS
Coding
Select Long Coding Helper

Byte 27:-
Bit 4 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 5 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 6 – Dectivate/Untick
X111XXX -> X000XXXX

Byte 28:-
Bit 7 – Dectivate/Untick
1XXXXXXX -> 0XXXXXXX



Modify Information Electrics
Controller 5F – Information Electronik
Security Access - enter 20103

Adaptations
Go to:
Car_function_list_BAP_Gen2-tire_pressure_system_0x07_msg_bus
Change from "Suspension Data bus" to "Extended data bus"

Click “Do It!”

[JR RS]

@RT_SGP - the TPMS module i bought came pre-loaded with a parameter file, so i don't have step by step instructions for it - sorry.

 

The RDKS generator (link here) is used to create the ZDC parameter file, which is used to load into module #65-tire pressure, via VCP or ODIS.

u can have multiple tire sets in ur parameter file, or have just the one set of tire pressures.

[RT_SGP]

4 hours ago, ApertureS said:

It might be cheaper and easier to install. But doesnt have the same integration and I personally wouldnt want that slapped on my dash.

Can't agree more. Nothing beat a clean dashboard with OEM integration. Also I am excited with this project and hope to enjoy the journey (learning!) to get there.  

[RT_SGP]

16 minutes ago, JR RS said:

@RT_SGP - the TPMS module i bought came pre-loaded with a parameter file, so i don't have step by step instructions for it - sorry.

 

The RDKS generator (link here) is used to create the ZDC parameter file, which is used to load into module #65-tire pressure, via VCP or ODIS.

u can have multiple tire sets in ur parameter file, or have just the one set of tire pressures.

 

I bought the same VW TPMS module which means that it should come with pre-loaded parameter file. Does it mean that i can skip this step then?

[JR RS]

30 minutes ago, RT_SGP said:

 

I bought the same VW TPMS module which means that it should come with pre-loaded parameter file. Does it mean that i can skip this step then?

 

likely then it will already b parameterized, so yes, no need for the VCP/ODIS steps.

 

the only downside with the pre-loaded dataset is that tire sizes pre-loaded may not necessarily match ur car tire size.

so select a tire set that matches the tire pressures u want to use.

that's wat really matters - the target pressure readings for comfort, standard & fully loaded.

the tire size description is not important for the TPMS function.

 

  

[MartiniB]

11 hours ago, ApertureS said:

I personally wouldnt want that slapped on my dash

alternative dTPMS display can be kept in whatever pocket you like

(place under windscreen helps to charge it by solar panel, but it can be connected to 5v MicroUSB cable)
opposite to OEM system, where info is always hidden under several sub-menus

 

i never have told OEM system is bad choice,
just alternative isn't as crime as someone described here

 

yes i know, mainstream population is happy with limited functionality of Android Auto / Car Play on head unit's screen,
but i prefer independent displays -
phone's 6.7" for navigation (Waze for local routes, Google Maps for abroad trips)
while head unit's 8" will stay free for multimedia and drive modes

[RT_SGP]

@JR RSYay! It works! But I think certain coding was not done right as I do get pop up messages on my dashboard that TPMS was deactivated. 
 

I could not execute the following steps via OBDELEVEN. 

 

Modify ABS coding
Controller 03 – ABS
Coding
Select Long Coding Helper

Byte 27:-
Bit 4 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 5 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 6 – Dectivate/Untick
X111XXX -> X000XXXX

Byte 28:-
Bit 7 – Dectivate/Untick
1XXXXXXX -> 0XXXXXXX

[JR RS]

Good to hear u got it going...to an extent.

 

Not sure why ur getting those messages, or not able to make those changes with OBDEleven.

 

This is my Byte 27...

 

 

 

This is my Byte 28...

 

 

[RT_SGP]

On 27/01/2022 at 18:16, JR RS said:

 

I'll post up the exact VCDS/OBDEleven coding steps shortly.

I'll also post up the link that allows u to create the RDX parameter file, to b loaded via VCP/ODIS.

Thank you @JR RS! Just to confirm. Byte 27, Bit 4, 5 & 6 as well as Byte 28 Bit 7: are these Bits supposed to be tick or untick? The screenshots above appeared to be ticked. 
 

Modify ABS coding
Controller 03 – ABS
Coding
Select Long Coding Helper

Byte 27:-
Bit 4 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 5 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 6 – Dectivate/Untick
X111XXX -> X000XXXX

Byte 28:-
Bit 7 – Dectivate/Untick
1XXXXXXX -> 0XXXXXXX

[Legion]

JR, How do you know all this? 

[JR RS]

11 hours ago, RT_SGP said:

Thank you @JR RS! Just to confirm. Byte 27, Bit 4, 5 & 6 as well as Byte 28 Bit 7: are these Bits supposed to be tick or untick? The screenshots above appeared to be ticked. 
 

Modify ABS coding
Controller 03 – ABS
Coding
Select Long Coding Helper

Byte 27:-
Bit 4 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 5 – Dectivate/Untick
Bit 6 – Dectivate/Untick
X111XXX -> X000XXXX

Byte 28:-
Bit 7 – Dectivate/Untick
1XXXXXXX -> 0XXXXXXX

 

At the time of my retrofit, I had VCDS, and uses that to make the changes.  I unticked the bits indicated above.

See screenshots below of the source I used.

 

I haven't made such changes via OBDEleven, but it is how it looks now.

 

When looking at the OBDEleven - don't forget the Bits r displayed in reverse.  Starts with Bit 7 and end with Bit 0.

 

Just make sure only deactivate the correct bits.  

Don't worry about the other bits, nor make changes to them.

 

 

Edited 13 February, 2022 by JR RS

[RT_SGP]

@JR RS- Thank you for your guidance throughout this journey. I repeated the steps in OBDELEVEN from start to end again and it is allowing me make all the coding changes listed by you, inclusive of the part that I originally got stuck. 
 

Everything is displaying correctly now. It is nice to see how TPMS info is being integrated into the display panel as well as the dashboard, particularly more so on a digital cockpit. 
 

Now onto the next project that I am contemplating - OEM 360 Camera on Superb. 

[JR RS]

Brilliant news @RT_SGP!!!

Glad it's all working now.

 

wow, 360 area view is an epic retrofit.

let us know if u go ahead with it - I'd b interested.

[JR RS]

11 hours ago, Legion said:

JR, How do you know all this? 

 

Hours n hours of research, but mainly thanks to a vwgolf user XaGiCo who wrote up a brilliant write up guide.

[RT_SGP]

Sharing some photos on how the different cockpit view will look like with TPMS. 

[RT_SGP]

10 hours ago, JR RS said:

Brilliant news @RT_SGP!!!

Glad it's all working now.

 

wow, 360 area view is an epic retrofit.

let us know if u go ahead with it - I'd b interested.

I found a supplier from China. The same dude who sold me the VW TPMS and module holder. He has everything except the grill. I will check with him if he is able to secure stock. 
 

OBDEleven has an app feature to turn this on without coding. I’ve been researching and can’t find any precedence on this modification so it will be a risky project… 

[ApertureS]

2 hours ago, RT_SGP said:

I found a supplier from China. The same dude who sold me the VW TPMS and module holder. He has everything except the grill. I will check with him if he is able to secure stock. 
 

OBDEleven has an app feature to turn this on without coding. I’ve been researching and can’t find any precedence on this modification so it will be a risky project… 

Youll have to create a thread to show this one off. The Earlier mk3 Superb's didnt even have this as an option and only the brand new ones do in the UK. Our parts catalogue doesnt even list the lower wing mirror covers with the holes for camera.

That being said as long as you get all relevant parts that fit, coding and wiring should be no different to any other car on the MQB platform that has this option

 

EDIT:

 

Just looked on the catalogue and there isnt even an option for 'with 360 camera' grill for anything up 2018

 

 

 

ANOTHER EDIT:

 

07/19 onwards is when there is an available grill for the front 360 camera, the grill youve pictured is also for the likes of this as you can see the radar bracket is tiny and just clips into the grill unlike the older 3v which bolted to a bracket behind the grill, not attached at all. 

 

It might be a job of making a custom grill as I dont believe you can fit new to older.

Edited 13 February, 2022 by ApertureS

[JR RS]

@RT_SGP - oh wow, that's awesome that there is someone supplying it as a kit!! 

there's hope then indeed, to do such a retrofit  

 

if u do go down this path, please do let us know - we'd b very interested to see how it progresses  

[knorac]

Hi guys i have problem instaling these.

I have ordered tpms kit from aliexpres.

 

Shop did conection like these on picture.

Other guy coded it,he deactivate indirect and coded direct tpms i have screen in multimedia and on VC but i cant get pressure to display.

Buy the pictures can u tell me is it conected properly?

 

[knorac]

When i scan via obd11 i get this fault.

[ApertureS]

3 hours ago, knorac said:

When i scan via obd11 i get this fault.

Youll have to be more specific, what car, have you retrofitted it, what did you fit, where did you get the parts, how long ago?

[JR RS]

@knorac- that error looks like it's not connected properly to the CANBUS.

Does the module have the parameter file loaded in it?

Also, where have u sourced the permanent 12v power source for the TPMS module from?

[knorac]

The power is connected in fuse box.

Modul is from aliexpress and by the word of guy who coded the antena have parameter installed.

Car is skoda octavia vrs 245 2019.

My only concern is that wires are not conecte properly. 

Here on pictures u can see how is connected. Is that good?

 

Nobody in my city knows how to do this so i am on my own 😞

so any help is good