Windows 11 is scheduled for release on fifth of October. Has anyone already tried it as a Beta or in the Windows Insider program? Any thoughts if you have would be welcome. 
I did try 10 on the Insider program but didn't bother with 11.

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Windows 11 will bring a new lick of paint to Microsoft's Windows OS. There's a brand new look for the desktop, a major UI redesign, and big changes to the core Microsoft OS apps and services that we've come to rely upon in PC gaming. Most importantly of all, though, Microsoft says Windows 11 was built for gamers.

 

 

And all of that will arrive October 5, 2021.

https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-release-date-features-specs-pricing/

 

I'll be honest that last phrase about doesn't fill be with confidence and makes me think more about waiting for "SP1" or the equivalent first major update.

I'd be far more interested in what they've done to protect home user security or features to allow recovery from ransomware or similar in home/enterprise environments.

20 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

I'll be honest that last phrase about doesn't fill be with confidence and makes me think more about waiting for "SP1" or the equivalent first major update.

I'd be far more interested in what they've done to protect home user security or features to allow recovery from ransomware or similar in home/enterprise environments.

Yeah IKWYM. XP was pretty carp until SP1 was released. I'm considering setting myself a reminder to turn updates off from 3/4th of October and let other people experience the delights of a new OS first  

2 hours ago, @Lee said:

Microsoft says Windows 11 was built for gamers.

Seems avoidable.

I don't think I'm looking forward to Windows 11 to be honest. I didn't look forward to Windows 10 either and I still don't like. I'm only using it because I have to! 

Whilst I now use 10 regularly I still reckon XP was the most logical and easy to use...

 

I just hope 11 isn't another 8...   Remember that?  It was total ****e (and still is on the one laptop we have that still has it on...

Edited 24 September, 20214 yr by skomaz

27 minutes ago, skomaz said:

another 8...   Remember that?  It was total ****e

Well, for me the best thing about W8 is that I've never had to use it

38 minutes ago, skomaz said:

I still reckon XP was the most logical and easy to use

 

I always loved XP since that's what I grew up using, except Mac OS 9.2 and OS X. I was also quite partial to Windows 7, particularly for the Aero theme.

I've been using 11 since I was able to get it on developer preview. I absolutely love it, I am really impressed. I found it simple and intuitive, the only thing I found frustrating was the start menu being placed centrally, but that was configurable to put it back to the good ol'place.

@BJB540 have they managed to sort out the Trusted Platform Module thing? Is it possible to procure a version that doesn't need this as a requirement? That's if you know of course.

I don't know but it'll exclude a heck of a lot of gamers with self-builds if Windows 11 requires a TPM module.

 

Some motherboards do have them, and some others have a TPM header to add a TPM module. They're currently about £15, get them before they skyrocket in this age of shortages and price-gouging.

Edited 24 September, 20214 yr by Yearofthegoat

17 hours ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

@BJB540 have they managed to sort out the Trusted Platform Module thing? Is it possible to procure a version that doesn't need this as a requirement? That's if you know of course.

 

Are they trying to sort it out? I was under the impression there was nothing to sort, it was a requirement more than anything.

 

I guess I am fortunate in that it's not impacted me.

I do hope that they can at least provide a way for some to use W11 without having to resort to trying to get one of those modules. Whether that becomes a reality or not is a different matter however.  My desktop would be okay since it has a header. My personal laptop would be okay I think since it was bought in January (HP OMEN 15) but I think the laptop I use for university will be having a hell of a time since it's a ThinkPad x201i.

Edited 25 September, 20214 yr by AnnoyingPentium

If they don't there'll be a lot of people switching to Linux or other non windows OS...

Edited 25 September, 20214 yr by skomaz

I'll be sticking with Windows 10 until my PCs need changing - my desktop is too old to have support for TPM and my tablet only has 48GB SSD.

There's a list of Windows 11 compatible processors here

There's a Microsoft app as well to do the legwork for you to see if your PC is compatible

Mine isn't so I won't be getting it. I thought my processor wasn't too bad tbh  
  

2 hours ago, @Lee said:

I thought my processor wasn't too bad tbh  

 

Same here, mine is a tad older as an i7-2600k. It's still more than capable for my needs too.

i havnt read the entire thread but....

 

there is a very straight forward pattern to Windows OS releases - they alterante quite evenly from good to ****e and have done right back to 3.11

 

10 is a decent and pretty stable environment, i think, 7 is also still pretty good on my old laptop. 

 

8 was brutal.

 

so, on the basis of existing stats - wait for 12, or whatever they decide to call it.

Yeah. 10 is what 8 should have been IMO. They tried to reinvent the wheel with 8 and failed massively.

1 hour ago, mac11irl said:

there is a very straight forward pattern to Windows OS releases - they alterante quite evenly from good to ****e and have done right back to 3.11.

It's like Star Trek movies

11 hours ago, skomaz said:

If they don't there'll be a lot of people switching to Linux or other non windows OS...

I doubt it myself.

1. Microsoft will maintain LTS for 10 so no urgency.

2. People won't want to swap to an unfamiliar OS esp Linux despite it being a decent OS

3. Lots of people are Church of Gates or Church of Jobs.

4. They'll continue on 10 with LTS until they need a new laptop/ PC.

5. Some may even switch to Chromebooks if Android users (see C of G/ C of J) 

17 hours ago, @Lee said:

There's a list of Windows 11 compatible processors here

There's a Microsoft app as well to do the legwork for you to see if your PC is compatible

So the processor on my desktop is compatible with W11 but I can't run the App because I'm running too old a version of Windows - so I can't tell if it's even worth me trying to upgrade because M$ won't let me run their App to tell if my motherboard is compatible (or can be made compatible)!

1 hour ago, PetrolDave said:

So the processor on my desktop is compatible with W11 but I can't run the App because I'm running too old a version of Windows - so I can't tell if it's even worth me trying to upgrade because M$ won't let me run their App to tell if my motherboard is compatible (or can be made compatible)!

Is it too late to upgrade from 7 or 8 to get 10 and then 11 or best to just wait for a newer PC?
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/windows-10-download/

20 hours ago, @Lee said:

Is it too late to upgrade from 7 or 8 to get 10 and then 11 or best to just wait for a newer PC?
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/windows-10-download/

No, the free upgrade path to W10 still exists but .... the OEM (Novatech) configuration on my desktop confuses the Windows installer and it refuses to do the upgrade so I'll have to do a complete clean install of W10/11 and then reinstall all my programs again - and it just isn't worth the wasted week.

Only 2 ( new HP Envy laptop and last year's Ryzen 3600 desktop build) of my many PCs will upgrade as they either don't have 4GB (two Linx 10  Tablet Atom CPU not supported either ) or a supported CPU (Intel 6600, three socket 1155 Intels, a J1900, a AMD APU, a i5 2430 laptop and a VM) - none of these have tpm2.0 either.  Admittedly, I didn't think  they would after reading the requirements, a bit disappointed really as the Intel and the three 1155 Intels run windows 10 fine and can do some mild gaming,  the rest run and are OK for bit of web browsing , word processing or programming.  Well they'll be OK to the 14th October 2025 when win 10 support ends! (Unless I change them to Linux) . 

 

I can see a load of still functioning PCs being scrapped in favour of new ones.  

 

EDIT:  Just noticed that Win 11 Supports the really rubbish Celeron N4XXX cpu, I've one of these as well (Ex MIL laptop) it can barely run Win 10  (even with 8GB RAM and SSD) - it takes half a day to do a full windows update - the i5 2430 mentioned above beats it hands down. It's so bad I wouldn't even want to give it away.

Edited 5 October, 20214 yr by io1901