Good morning

 

The Felicia model seems to have now dropped off the Koni catalog, but I am sure others are using the same shock absorbers - notably the Fabia or Favorit maybe?

 

Does any one have records of part numbers from the old days? I badly need two rears for a 1.9D pick up and will take two fronts if I can find any.

 

Alternatively, part numbers of other solid manufacturers - eg Spax? I am fed up with the cheap supply from the likes of Autodoc.

 

Thanks for any help!

2 hours ago, Haladams said:

Autodoc

Autodoc also has expensive ones 

4 hours ago, Haladams said:

notably the Fabia or Favorit maybe?

Fabia is VW based, so its shocks are different. Favorit has similar shocks, but they have too soft rating for the pickup, plus Felicia pickup have different rear shocks, without spring plate.

Try searching with OEM codes:

6U7413031 A/B front

6U7413031 C/D front for models with ABS

6U7513031 A/B rear.

 

Unfortunately, I don't know what's the exact difference between variants.

On 24/11/2021 at 05:38, Haladams said:

 

The Felicia model seems to have now dropped off the Koni catalog,

 

Alternatively, part numbers of other solid manufacturers - eg Spax? I am fed up with the cheap supply from the likes of Autodoc.

 

 

 

Koni Street (Orange) can be fitted to a Felicia (i have them on a 1.3 model) also Kayaba, Monroe and Bilstein as i hear here for every day use.

22 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Kayaba

I have Kayaba Excel-G

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

I have Kayaba Excel-G

I suggested them to the "suspension guy" as a future option but he said No categorically due to my 3mm lowered springs.

What a pity.  

 

3mm or 3cm hahaha, yes I would advise against them if lowered, as they would not have enough damping control. 

Oups, yes 3cm indeed.

I'd be happy to try Kayaba this time around - what do most think is best, gas or oil? Mostly the truck will be empty, with maybe one or two full loads per year...

1 hour ago, Haladams said:

I'd be happy to try Kayaba this time around - what do most think is best, gas or oil? Mostly the truck will be empty, with maybe one or two full loads per year...

Both, so Excel-G

1 hour ago, Haladams said:

what do most think is best, gas or oil?

 

If you don't want to buy new set some guys repair the old (nitrogen-oil) with cost 150 euros the 4 which is very economical compared to the price of the new.

2 hours ago, Haladams said:

what do most think is best, gas or oil?

"Gas" dampers are more correctly known as "gas pressurised" dampers. There is no benefit to them unless you drive fast enough on bumpy surfaces to cause damper fade.

45 minutes ago, KenONeill said:

There is no benefit to them unless you drive fast enough on bumpy surfaces to cause damper fade.

Correct but not correct I hope you never experience foaming, it's not fun trust me 

Is it true or just a rumor that after refurbish the Koni become a little bit harder as they were in original condition?

51 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Is it true or just a rumor that after refurbish the Koni become a little bit harder as they were in original condition?

Could very well be, the oil used could be a proprietary blend, and replacing it with slightly different weight could result in different behavior the same is true when filling the shock with nitrogen more pressure == progressively harder compression damping while going thru the travel.

One of my other talents, was shock servicing and tuning,

I was servicing the highest end bicycle and motocross shocks, doing custom damping work and all that good stuff, pretty much i was called a "wizzard" but thats not the case, thats why I am really strict on what I advise in terms of shocks and suspension systems in general.

Take a look at a fun video I made many many years ago haha.

I have no idea what oil is used in the various makes of vehicle dampers you are referring to but as in engine, gearbox and rear axle generally a good synthetic oil will stand up to the heat way better than a mineral.

 

Fork oil used in motorbikes (and Armstrong lever arm dampers) grades (weights) can be mixed to give intermediate grades (weights) of firmness/softness but really that is the job of the valve(s).  Best to use the ISO grade figures, rather than SAE grade figures, as the ISO figures relate to the true viscosity at 40°C, giving a more accurate assessment of damping capabilities.

 

You can mix them correct but modern dampers use multi grade oils like 5w 30 fork oil and stuff. 

That's why I said proprietary blends

On 11/01/2022 at 22:57, Thefeliciahacker said:

foaming

 

Aka in Greek: "Ouzarei"

 

 

5 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

You can mix them correct but modern dampers use multi grade oils like 5w 30 fork oil and stuff. 

That's why I said proprietary blends

Fair enough, but I was thinking of monograde oils and the SAE grades are ranges, in the same way as with engine oils 5w and 30 will vary from one oil to another and how well (and long) it remains at where ever it is in the ranges (not to the same extent as engine oil of course) but cars are obviously a lot heavier than motorbikes and cycles.

 

Once you've got the oil right in the road car dampers it's going to last a very long time and you would hope the damper manufacturers do the work for you anyway.

 

I do not particularly like the scales in the chart below but it can be used as a quick visualisation of the SAE ranges for those that do not yet know of them.

 

Edited 13 January, 20224 yr by nta16

Monroe R2702 ?

1 hour ago, R_Blue said:

Monroe R2702 ?

Gas only? These aren't to the "soft" side?

7 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Gas only? These aren't to the "soft" side?

There is BILSTEIN 15-106384 but it's also oil.

It seems gas only rear shock absorbers for Caddy 2 are hard to find.