my dealer did the "fix" for me in November and it has never done it again since, I have tried plenty of times to recreate it.

I wonder why it has completely gone on yours and not others :confused:

When I buy a brand new car, I expect it to be in full working order and have no problems what so ever (if there are problems i expect it to be fixed FULLY by the dealer).

I'm a bit fed up of people sayin it only cost you £12k, it's a skoda what do you expect, you wont find another car with this performance for this price, just sell it and buy something else.

The price just happens to be a lot of money to me and soaks up a lot of my wage to pay for it!

All my cars are my pride and joy, so I want them to run perfectly (especially when brand new!)

Also, "just buy something else" .....why? why should I? I've should bought a brand new car and it's going to have lost so much value now and I can't afford to start swapping cars again!

anyway, small rant over, as said before mines off in for the fix soon, so we'll see how we go from there.

I wonder why it has completely gone on yours and not others :confused:

I have had various chats with various dealers and one of them said they would fit the 'wrong' gasket for me. The one that cures the problem completely but means the car fails it's Euro IV requirements. It's not bad enough to bring the light on on the dash, but I was told if anything happened and I had to try and claim on the warranty, they wouldn't stand behind it as it was an "unauthorised" modification.

It is completely fixable, just not in a way that makes it completely Euro IV compliant. I think you require a 4mm or 7mm hole rather than 9mm or 13mm.

I am intrigued to know where you got the impression that I am embarassed to drive a Skoda:confused: :confused: ?? I can assure you I enjoy driving a car that is the object of amusement for other drivers, espescially when they decide to race me at the lights:D !!

Also, at no point did I imply that Skoda owners are second class citizens, maybe that's how you feel?!?[/Quote]

The bit where you said that Skoda was the the poor relation in the VAG empire made it very clear that you felt you were driving a cheaply built Eastern European cast off from a brand that actually develops things. Well, the Fabia was the first car to get the new Polo platform back in 2000. It launched a few months before Audi set out the A2. VW didn't get a new Polo for 2 years after that and the SEAT had to struggle on even later.

Whether you like it or not Skoda relies on VW and Audi for engines/drivetrains (as does Seat) and will not be an industry leader for technology in this field. The Tdi PD engine in the vRS was not designed to meet EUIV regulations and making it do so has caused the slight stutter. Skoda have tried everything within their power to rectify the problem but it seems this is not possible if the engine is to meet the emissions standards.[/Quote]

How many miles has your wife covered in her Fabia? You got the car in October, yes? so it could have as little as 2-3000 miles on it. I got mine in mid-August and I've almost done 15,000 miles. At an average of 40mph covering 30,000 miles per year I spend almost 3 hours per day in my car. So what I drive is very important to me, some days I'm doing 8-10 hours in the car. That stutter that you/your wife drives around didn't appear until I'd done a couple of thousand miles and then it got worse. So before you congratulate yourself too much on doing your homework just remember it could be you down at the Skoda dealer in 6 months time asking why you can't drive the car smoothly in a 30mph zone.

Now we have more details on your situation it seems as though you are just as annoyed with yourself for committing to a 3 year lease without doing enough research as you are with Skoda UK for the problem with your car!?!

Not really. The salesmen all say it doesn't exist on the cars they sell. And HonestJohn said it was fixed. You have to believe someone, sometime. I'm not actually paying for the car ultimately either. If there is an issue that affects MY06 cars then it will become common knowledge and the residuals will plummet. It won't affect me when I hand the car back, but Skoda's will be more expensive to lease in future if the residuals are weaker and I honestly wouldn't want to have to sell my car privately as I reckon you'll take a bath on it, especially as the new model is out next year.

I am living with the stutter though. That's bad enough. If Skoda UK called me tomorrow and said I could fit a 4-7mm gasket and they would turn a blind eye for warranty purposes then I would have to stop complaining, wouldn't I?

Not really. The salesmen all say it doesn't exist on the cars they sell. And HonestJohn said it was fixed. You have to believe someone, sometime. I'm not actually paying for the car ultimately either. If there is an issue that affects MY06 cars then it will become common knowledge and the residuals will plummet. It won't affect me when I hand the car back, but Skoda's will be more expensive to lease in future if the residuals are weaker and I honestly wouldn't want to have to sell my car privately as I reckon you'll take a bath on it, especially as the new model is out next year.

Surely the more opinions you get the better?!? If you're goin to believe salesmen ( :rofl: ) and one website you're asking for trouble!! I would have thought the first place you look for an honest appraisal would be an owners club?!?

As far as selling my car is concerned there are obviously plenty of people out there who will buy cars without taking the time to do research. Therefore I would have no trouble selling such a highly rated car, although as we love it so much there is little chance of us letting her go for a LONG time!!!

If you're goin to believe salesmen ( :rofl: ) and one website you're asking for trouble!![//Quote]

Hey! Ants! This guy says you're a liar;)

I would have thought the first place you look for an honest appraisal would be an owners club?!?

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No, because you would be popping up telling me not to worry, wouldn't you?

As far as selling my car is concerned there are obviously plenty of people out there who will buy cars without taking the time to do research. Therefore I would have no trouble selling such a highly rated car, although as we love it so much there is little chance of us letting her go for a LONG time!!!

I genuinely hope that your wife's car doesn't suffer from the condition that mine has. How many miles have you done in it by the way?

I would be perfectly honest and say that there was a 'stutter' issue but that it did not effect my enjoyment of the car. I would also recommend reading this thread as there are others who find the 'stutter' unacceptable!!

Oh, and by the looks of this quote it was you that first mentioned the idea that salesmen may not be forthcoming with the full details:O !!

The salesmen all say it doesn't exist on the cars they sell.

Oh, and by the looks of this quote it was you that first mentioned the idea that salesmen may not be forthcoming with the full details:O !!

Ah yes, but I believed him, and you clearly implied that I was worthy of ridicule for believing a salesman.

And you're still not telling us how many miles you've racked up so far! Surely that can't be a secret can it?

Not sure why the mileage of my wifes car is so interesting to you but if you must know it's just coming up for 5,000 (hope you can sleep well now).

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please. Time out. I too have had the stutter and the fix which improved things. I have taken it upon myself to order a ODB2 cable and download and use VAG com. I have decreased the EGR useage and my Skoda is now great. NO stutter but the emisssions through the roof. The car is now good . Shouldn`t have to come to this but hey ho that`s life.

If the dealer had told me that my car would have stuttered when driving off the forecourt i would not have purchased this vehicle as i too am tied to a lease for 3 years, the residuals on this car will be lower than an 05 that`s for sure. My brother is looking to buy one but will not buy an 06> as he knows the problems i have been experiencing. It is an issue, a major one. Skoda UK should acknowledge this as such. Skoda CZK should come up with a proper solution.

Overall i am now happy with this car but my buying experience has been very much soured and i would not buy a Skoda again without doing some very serious homework.

On a side note , dealer has been great..and is the only reason i have not got my dodgy friends to torch it.

7000 miles so far.

Drop links gone.

Still knocking on a camber or rough ground. All 06 do this apparently and Skoda UK classify it as a feature

Steering column replaced.

Fog lights replaced

Drive shafts replaced.

Gear lever vibrating...something replaced but still does it.

ETC

Not sure why the mileage of my wifes car is so interesting to you but if you must know it's just coming up for 5,000 (hope you can sleep well now).

The only reason I'm interested is that I'm keeping a note of who has issues and when they 'escalated' from "mine does it, but it's not a problem" to "It's become a problem". No other reason. I usually sleep fine, but these past few days your posts have been preying on my mind. Am I being unreasonable in asking for a car that doesn't have a 'phenomenon'? Am I a bad driver? Do I have a chip on my shoulder about driving Wolfsburg's cast-offs?

No. However I am resolved to call the leasing company and see what it would cost to trade out of this one for something else. I'm sad to do it, but it looks to me that for about an extra

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please. Time out. I too have had the stutter and the fix which improved things. I have taken it upon myself to order a ODB2 cable and download and use VAG com. I have decreased the EGR useage and my Skoda is now great. NO stutter but the emisssions through the roof. The car is now good .

What's an OBD2 cable please? Could you also explain "download and use VAGcom.

Glad it has solved the stutter but when will the increased emissions become an issue,

would it fail the car on MOT or will the increase be a problem when the car has it's routine service?

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, please. Time out. I too have had the stutter and the fix which improved things. I have taken it upon myself to order a ODB2 cable and download and use VAG com.

So you splashed out the best part of

Ok, my '06 Fabia vRS has had the stutter fix (by Turners of Earlstoke).

fix was done during it's 20k service (20,450 ish on the clock). I've now done another 500 miles or so since then...

The car is sweet as a nut. It's 9/10 in terms of smoothness when cold (before 7/10), and 10/10 when warm (9/10 before).

So, once warm - the car is much improved.

The difference is that the engine revs die off quicker, aiding the gear change/engine breaking, and the throttle response is much smoother. TBH, it feels like there's about 15 extra horses under the bonnet!

I think part of this whole problem is that it's such a difficult issue to describe. Thus the fix is hard to describe. As someone who's experienced 20,000 miles of the stutter, I can tell the difference.

I've driven maybe 50 different types of car, so I've a fair feel for how they behave.

The vRS is now worthy of the badge

D

Where is Earlstoke?

Ok, my '06 Fabia vRS has had the stutter fix (by Turners of Earlstoke).

fix was done during it's 20k service (20,450 ish on the clock). I've now done another 500 miles or so since then...

The car is sweet as a nut. It's 9/10 in terms of smoothness when cold (before 7/10), and 10/10 when warm (9/10 before).

So, once warm - the car is much improved.

The difference is that the engine revs die off quicker, aiding the gear change/engine breaking, and the throttle response is much smoother. TBH, it feels like there's about 15 extra horses under the bonnet!

I think part of this whole problem is that it's such a difficult issue to describe. Thus the fix is hard to describe. As someone who's experienced 20,000 miles of the stutter, I can tell the difference.

I've driven maybe 50 different types of car, so I've a fair feel for how they behave.

The vRS is now worthy of the badge

D

Excellent! hope mine comes back with such positive results

Never realised you spelt it like this!!!

Erlestoke's a village in the middle of Wiltshire just off Salisbury Plain.

D

Not really. The salesmen all say it doesn't exist on the cars they sell. And HonestJohn said it was fixed. You have to believe someone, sometime. I'm not actually paying for the car ultimately either. If there is an issue that affects MY06 cars then it will become common knowledge and the residuals will plummet. It won't affect me when I hand the car back, but Skoda's will be more expensive to lease in future if the residuals are weaker and I honestly wouldn't want to have to sell my car privately as I reckon you'll take a bath on it, especially as the new model is out next year.

Are you sure your not looking to purchase an 06/56 plate vRS and just trying to get the price down with your campaign before you buy... he he he... LOL!

God damn quote system... work!!! LOL.

God damn quote system... work!!! LOL.

Change the second [ quote ] to [ / quote ], but without the spaces

Chris

Are you sure your not looking to purchase an 06/56 plate vRS and just trying to get the price down with your campaign before you buy... he he he... LOL!

Nope. And with any luck I'll either be fixed or a SEAT driver by the end of January:)

Mine went in yesterday and the garage have confirmed this is the problem but now they have to order the part (it took them a whole day to decide this) - i suppose they did check out my demisting problem as well, but i wouldnt have thought this would have taken all day.

Heres my two cents worth;

When I was looking to buy my vRS I confronted the dealer about the stutter straight away, he admitted that it did exist but it 'really wasn't that bad', unconvinced he tossed me the keys to his '56 plate (with >400 miles on it) so I could give it a go. On a quick test drive I noticed the stutter twice/three times? under normal driving :eek: . I wouldn't call it dangerous, annoying yes, but only so much as turbo lag in the 'annoyingness' factor.

However, believing him that not all cars were affected and that a fix was on its way, I bought a new '56 plate. I've had it now just under a month and covered 1500 and a bit miles, and have found the 'stutter' three times - but only from trying my hardest to find it. I reckon I must of had well over fifty trys to make it stutter, only three of which were 'successful'. I have never experienced the stutter under normal driving. Not sure if the dealer applied the 'fix' before I collected the car or not, but I do know that it is infinatly better than the demo car I drove. And with every 500 miles on it, the better and better it becomes. Roll on 10k miles!

Tim

*Please note this is not an 'i'm alright jack, so screw you guys' story, just an account of how I see things.

lol... glad you're happy with it Tim it will keep getting better up to 10k too

My experience is similar to Tim's. I have to say that I think the more recent cars don't have the problem. However, some folks have said it same on later, so I'll report back when I've had the car for a while longer.