Tyres any recommendations

[Carlston]

2 hours ago, Kevgem said:

thanks for the advice guys much appreciated!

 

The Superb MK2 normally uses a 7Jx16 ET45 rim for its 205/55R16 tyre size.

 

However, compared to a 225/45R17 tyre the 205/55R16 option can look a bit sunken in the wheelarch.

 

Therefore, other rims that you might want to consider include the 6Jx16 ET40 rim from the Superb MK1 and the 6.5Jx16 ET41 rim from the Superb MK3.

 

6Jx16 ET40 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from the Superb MK1)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=180495828815717488&rimCode=ALCAR9490

 

6.5Jx16 ET41 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from the Superb MK3)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=1035468374024787056&rimCode=ALCAR8426

 

Superb MK2 16" alloy rims

1	3T0601025	Aluminium rim	7JX16 ET45	4	SPECTRUM	-
	3T0601025 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
2	3T0601025N	Aluminium rim	7JX16 ET45	4	MOON
	3T0601025N 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601060

 

Superb MK2 16" steel rims

1	3C0601027M	Steel rim	7JX16H2 ET45 5/112	4	PR-CH3	-
	3C0601027M 03C	rally black				-
1	3C0601027AQ	Steel rim	7 JX16H2 ET45 5/112	4		-
	3C0601027AQ03C	rally black

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601010

 

Superb MK2 17" alloy rims

1	3T0601025B	Aluminium rim	7JX17 ET49	4	VENUS	-
	3T0601025B 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
2	3T0601025C	Aluminium rim D >> - 29.05.2011	7,5JX17 ET49	4	CALLISTO
	3T0601025C 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic D >> - 29.05.2011
2	3T0601025CA	Aluminium rim D - 30.05.2011>>	7,5JX17 ET49	4	CALLISTO PR-C4F
	3T0601025CAHA7	Anthracite metallic (grey) D - 30.05.2011>>
3	3T0601025D	Aluminium rim	7,5JX17 ET49	4	TRIFID
	3T0601025D 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
5	3T0601025G	Aluminium rim	7,5JX17 ET49	4	LAUREL
	3T0601025G 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601070

 

Edited 20 August, 2022 by Carlston

[Kevgem]

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

The Superb MK2 normally uses a 7Jx16 ET45 rim for its 205/55R16 tyre size.

 

However, compared to a 225/45R17 tyre the 205/55R16 option can look a bit sunken in the wheelarch.

 

Therefore, other rims that you might want to consider include the 6Jx16 ET40 rim from the Superb MK1 and the 6.5Jx16 ET41 rim from the Superb MK3.

 

6Jx16 ET40 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from the Superb MK1)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=180495828815717488&rimCode=ALCAR9490

 

6.5Jx16 ET41 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from the Superb MK3)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=1035468374024787056&rimCode=ALCAR8426

 

Superb MK2 16" alloy rims

1	3T0601025	Aluminium rim	7JX16 ET45	4	SPECTRUM	-
	3T0601025 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
2	3T0601025N	Aluminium rim	7JX16 ET45	4	MOON
	3T0601025N 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601060

 

Superb MK2 16" steel rims

1	3C0601027M	Steel rim	7JX16H2 ET45 5/112	4	PR-CH3	-
	3C0601027M 03C	rally black				-
1	3C0601027AQ	Steel rim	7 JX16H2 ET45 5/112	4		-
	3C0601027AQ03C	rally black

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601010

 

Superb MK2 17" alloy rims

1	3T0601025B	Aluminium rim	7JX17 ET49	4	VENUS	-
	3T0601025B 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
2	3T0601025C	Aluminium rim D >> - 29.05.2011	7,5JX17 ET49	4	CALLISTO
	3T0601025C 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic D >> - 29.05.2011
2	3T0601025CA	Aluminium rim D - 30.05.2011>>	7,5JX17 ET49	4	CALLISTO PR-C4F
	3T0601025CAHA7	Anthracite metallic (grey) D - 30.05.2011>>
3	3T0601025D	Aluminium rim	7,5JX17 ET49	4	TRIFID
	3T0601025D 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic
5	3T0601025G	Aluminium rim	7,5JX17 ET49	4	LAUREL
	3T0601025G 7ZS	chrome coloured metallic

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/632/6/601/601070

 

thank you very much for the in depth advice !

cheers kev

 

[bigjohn]

I'm a fan of the Michelin Crossclimates on my Superb but after an MOT advisory re tyres(cracked etc) on Mrs BJ's Panda and discovering these weren't an option I've gone for a special offer on a full set of Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-2 from Tyreshopper -- good value.  We shall see when fitted, but reviews look good.

 

 

Edited 21 August, 2022 by bigjohn

[Rkdee]

I love this guy when it comes to cars….

 

[Kevgem]

would it be ok to fit pcd 5x112 - 6.5j - et38 - 17 inch wheels - centre bore 57.1mm - fitted with winter tyres 215/65/ r17 ?

cheers kev! 

[softscoop]

I'm pretty certain that those tyres are far too tall a profile for the Superb.

 

A 45 or 50 would be more similar to the original size.

 

[chimaera]

On 30/08/2022 at 20:58, Kevgem said:

would it be ok to fit pcd 5x112 - 6.5j - et38 - 17 inch wheels - centre bore 57.1mm - fitted with winter tyres 215/65/ r17 ?

cheers kev! 

Not really. Much too tall for one thing so your speedo/odometer will be wrong. Offset is also quite a bit different to what's recommended so the steering will be a bit weird.

[Kevgem]

ok thanks!

[Kevgem]

what about 225/40 /18- et51- j7.5?

cheers kev

[softscoop]

Are you looking for tyres to go on your existing wheels, or a set of wheels with tyres?

[Carlston]

1 hour ago, Kevgem said:

What about 225/40R18 7.5Jx18 ET51 ?

 

225/40R18 7.5Jx18 ET46 is the standard 18" tyre and rim size on the Superb MK2.

 

Skoda parts catalogue

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/768/6/601/601080

 

Edited 1 September, 2022 by Carlston

[Kevgem]

Are you looking for tyres to go on your existing wheels, or a set of wheels with tyres?

 

a set of wheels with tyres,

i thought i would see if i can pick up some wheels with winter tyres on then get a full set of summer tyres on the original wheels as all 4x tyres on my original wheels have been given as a advisory on my very resent mot test

cheers kev

Edited 1 September, 2022 by Kevgem

[chimaera]

2 hours ago, Kevgem said:

Are you looking for tyres to go on your existing wheels, or a set of wheels with tyres?

 

a set of wheels with tyres,

i thought i would see if i can pick up some wheels with winter tyres on then get a full set of summer tyres on the original wheels as all 4x tyres on my original wheels have been given as a advisory on my very resent mot test

cheers kev

Unless you live somewhere with very bad winter weather, you're probably better off getting a set of decent all-seasons. Michelin CrossClimate2 would be the best in that category right now.

[Kevgem]

right ok i see your point 

cheers kev

[Kevgem]

would it be ok for me to change the tyre size to (225/45/18) FROM (225/40/18 ) the reason being the roads where i live are getting steadily worse each year and when you get on the B roads some of the pot holes are like open manholes you know the ones, the ones that make you cringe thinking that will be my alloy cracked, so i thought as i will be looking for a full set of new tyres soon would it be a good time to get tyres with a slightly higher profile (225/45/18) do you think this would be ok to do ?

my car is ( 2013 mk2 face lift dsg 170bhp 4x4 ) 

cheers kev!

Edited 11 September, 2022 by Kevgem

[Carlston]

1 hour ago, Kevgem said:

would it be ok for me to change the tyre size to (225/45/18) FROM (225/40/18 ) the reason being the roads where i live are getting steadily worse each year and when you get on the B roads some of the pot holes are like open manholes you know the ones, the ones that make you cringe thinking that will be my alloy cracked, so i thought as i will be looking for a full set of new tyres soon would it be a good time to get tyres with a slightly higher profile (225/45/18) do you think this would be ok to do ?

my car is ( 2013 mk2 face lift dsg 170bhp 4x4 ) 

cheers kev!

 

Compared to 205/55R16, 225/45R18 will raise the gearing by 4.4%.

 

Compared to 225/45R17, 225/45R18 will raise the gearing by 4.0%.

 

Compared to 225/40R18, 225/45R18 will raise the gearing by 3.5%.

 

If you look at the below chart, 205/55R16 is the best value and 69dB is quiet.

 

However, out of 225/45R17 and 225/45R18, the 17" tyre is the better value and keeps the gearing standard.

 

Michelin CrossClimate 2

205/55R16 94V XL (Euro label B B 69dB) £70.24

https://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/205-55-16?seasonal=AllSeason&manufacturer=michelin&delivery=1&id=11377

225/45R17 94V XL (Euro label C B 71dB) £97.50

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s8017p208565/Michelin_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Michelin_Cross_Climate_2_-_225_45_R17_94V_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

225/40R18 92Y XL (Euro label C B 71dB) £96.25

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m141b0s7954p208519/Michelin_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Michelin_Cross_Climate_2_-_225_40_R18_92Y_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

225/45R18 95Y XL (Euro label C B 71dB) £157.60

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m141b0s8784p208577/Michelin_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Michelin_Cross_Climate_2_-_225_45_R18_95Y_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Edited 11 September, 2022 by Carlston

[Kevgem]

thanks for your in-depth reply but i don't wont to have to change the 18s that are already fitted, a set of 18s trinity alloys in anthracite i think you would agree to buy a nice set of alloys that look as nice as mine do + a full set of new tyres would be far to expensive. 

what would 3.5% raise in the gearing mean?

cheers kev  

[Carlston]

	3T0071498A	Aluminium rim	7,5JX18 ET46	4	TRINITY
	3T0071498A HA7	Anthracite metallic (grey)

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/768/6/601/601080

 

I read somewhere that the 18" Trinity alloy rim weighs a shockingly heavy 14.6kg.

 

Maybe you could weigh one to check this. If you are going to change the tyres, perhaps weigh the wheel (rim and tyre) before the change. Then when the old tyre has been removed from the rim, weigh that and deduct that weight from the weight of the complete wheel before the old tyre was removed.

 

The below alloy rim weighs about 7.3kg, ie. half the weight of the above rim. The reason that it's so light is because it's made from forged aluminium, whereas most car alloy rims are made from much heavier sand cast aluminium.

 

7Jx16 ET45 5/112 forged alloy rim (from Audi A4/A6 cars around the year 2000) 

9	8D0601025K	Aluminium rim	7Jx16 ET45 5/112
	8D0601025K Z17	Avus silver

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/audi/RDW/A4/223/6/601/601060

 

Edited 11 September, 2022 by Carlston

[DEL80Y]

I would go for a set of 17" look on facebook marketplace  

Loads of deals 

[Carlston]

24 minutes ago, DEL80Y said:

I would go for a set of 17" look on facebook marketplace  

Loads of deals 

 

The 17" rims also come in the narrower 7J width. Fitted with a 225/45R17 tyre, you would get a more comfortable ride and better rim protection from kerbing damage.

 

Edited 11 September, 2022 by Carlston

[Carlston]

1 hour ago, Kevgem said:

what would 3.5% raise in the gearing mean?

 

If your top gear was currently pulling 29mph/1,000rpm, then a 3.5% increase in gearing would mean that your top gear was now pulling 30mph/1,000rpm, ie. a 3.5% increase in gearing. Of course this increase in gearing applies to all the gears.

 

Edited 11 September, 2022 by Carlston

[Kevgem]

i cant really see 3.5% increase in each gear making much difference to be honest, and i don't drive like loon and i only do 70mph on the motorways there are way to many cameras around now a days, i really don't want to change the wheels that i have already, they look really good and suit the car very well so i much prefer to stick with my 18s to be honest.

cheers kev

[DEL80Y]

There is also a question of insurance it needs to be the correct size that has been approved to fit that vehicle at approval

But thats another minefield   

The 17s  drive much smoother

[Ootohere]

Real world with the 170 TSI DSG 4x4 Superb Estate going along the road you will probably not be aware of any rpm difference.

As far as Insurance and tyres then there are many of us driving on tyres of a size not type approved for the vehicles and that includes emergency service vehicles with blue or green flashing lights.  We might have declared mods though and including oversized tyres.

But your insurance is for you to take responsibility for. 

[Carlston]

Many folks buy secondhand cars and won't be aware if their car has a non-standard tyre size.

 

Ultimately, UK insurance is governed by UK courts.

 

I suspect that any insurance company would have to show that the modification has made a material difference to the risk. This may explain why my insurance company once told me that they were happy for me to change my tyres by one size as long as it didn't increase the performance. Also, it's not uncommon for tyre fitters to fit the next nearest size if they don't have the correct size in stock, without even telling the customer.

 

I would have thought that it's far worse for a driver to be driving around with faulty brakes, than have one size difference in their tyres. Also, even the same size tyres vary hugely in performance. You can fit the cheapest, worst performing Chinese remoulds on your car and apparently your car is still fully insured.

 

It's strange how no one from the UK insurance industry clears up all this confusion. Although not long ago, they were encouraging drivers to drive in the snow on summer tyres...or they would increase their premiums if they fitted winter tyres.

 

Edited 12 September, 2022 by Carlston