1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

80-85 isn't your thermoswitch?

was before the de-lpgfication

Can aluminium coolant expansion tanks help our coolant to get ''cold'' faster or there will be not difference comparing to plastic?

If the coolant get ''cold'' faster, this won't help the engines performance?

 

It all depends on the ΔT what is hotter the egine bay or the coolant. 

 

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

It all depends on the ΔT what is hotter the egine bay or the coolant. 

 

 

The engine bay has less temperature than the coolant, for example the engine around the thermostat may have about 40-45 'C and the coolant inside the expansion tank 70 'C at least (and may reach 20 'C more).

It may give some marginal benefits  

 

4 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

It may give some marginal benefits  

 

 

I don't think that there could be a ''miracle solution'', a little bit from this-a little bit from that and we can make some gain.

I wonder if the thread fits to our existing caps.

Any 1.2 bar cap is okay

Whether the aluminium expansion tank cools down (heats up) quicker will make no odds overall in hot city traffic on a hot summer's day, nice bling for those that like that sort of thing and as always each to there own if that' is what you want.

 

15 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Can aluminium coolant expansion tanks help our coolant to get ''cold'' faster or there will be not difference comparing to plastic?

If the coolant get ''cold'' faster, this won't help the engines performance?

 

There's a dedicated heat exchanger in the front of the engine bay... That's the best way to get the coolant colder, flat surface of the reservoir tank doesn't transmit much heat to the air

20 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

It can do that 

My system has these states

1st 95c commanded by thermoswitch 

2nd 102c commanded by thermoswitch 

1st speed and compressor commanded by ac

2nd speed based on refrigerant pressure 

 

I meant that 1st stage thermoswitch would engage the fan on 1st speed when AC is off and 2nd speed when AC is on. If the fan is running and the coolant still reaches the switch threshold temperature, it makes sense to perform some action, instead of waiting for the pressure sensor or second speed thermoswitch.

 

20 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

This will make radiator fan work much harder, i have destroyed a new one this way (the mechanic made wrong connection) and i have opened a topic for this.

 

It shouldn't, the fan is the same as the one used in 1.6 without AC, where it's working only at high speed. Also, going from low to high doesn't put as much stress as going from zero.

Edited 13 June, 20233 yr by Papez

Why dont you just remove your bonnet?

 

That will be your miracle solution to a problem that does not exist with the added benefit for you that you can admire your shiny bling chocolate teapot aluminium chocolate teapot aluminium expansion tank while driving which would be marginally safer for pedestrians and other road users than watching the temperature guage all the time.

 

Edited 13 June, 20233 yr by J.R.

1 hour ago, Papez said:

I meant that 1st stage thermoswitch would engage the fan on 1st speed when AC is off and 2nd speed when AC is on. If the fan is running and the coolant still reaches the switch threshold temperature, it makes sense to perform some action, instead of waiting for the pressure sensor or second speed thermoswitch.

Yes and I'm saying that the way the system operates is more efficient in my book.

Because every speed can be controlled in parallel by 2 systems, so if one system needs more speed, it will get it

3 hours ago, nta16 said:

Whether the aluminium expansion tank cools down (heats up) quicker will make no odds overall in hot city traffic on a hot summer's day, nice bling for those that like that sort of thing and as always each to there own if that' is what you want.

 

 

Do i look like a teenager which installs things just for show to the broads?

 

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

Why dont you just remove your bonnet?

 

That will be your miracle solution to a problem that does not exist with the added benefit for you that you can admire your shiny bling chocolate teapot aluminium chocolate teapot aluminium expansion tank while driving which would be marginally safer for pedestrians and other road users than watching the the temperature guage all the time.

 

You came second, the Americans fo that, check for Rat Rod car or Hot Rod car.

Why don't you make a strictly notice to them?

3 hours ago, Papez said:

There's a dedicated heat exchanger in the front of the engine bay... That's the best way to get the coolant colder

 

I took today some photos from my radiator and when i post them i will ask some things about the 1.6 radiator but keep in mind i have a/c so things are a bit "tight" in there.

7 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Do i look like a teenager which installs things just for show to the broads?

I've no idea what you look like but if you have had the car 20+ years I know you are not a teenager and must be very elderly if you think the word broads is still used for women or girls. 😃  (Used in America not UK by the way).

 

Do bear in mind you are not the only one that reads the posts, I did not want Thefeliciahacker to think I was having a go at him about this, or anything else, or having a go at anyone else that likes bling, we all like a bit bling just some more than others.

 

My point was for your application it would serve more as bling.

 

If you introduce things to deal with the heat of hot summer city traffic then also bear in mind you do not want them to slow down the car warming up on your short winter journeys.

 

2 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

I took today some photos from my radiator and when i post them i will ask some things about the 1.6 radiator but keep in mind i have a/c so things are a bit "tight" in there.

 

 

 

Is it as tight as a 16V engine in Favorit?

 

 

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

I've no idea what you look like but if you have had the car 20+ years I know you are not a teenager and must be very elderly if you think the word broads is still used for women or girls. 😃  (Used in America not UK by the way).

 

For us that term means ''girlfriend in a not serious relationsip'', it's not a slander and every young person here use it (in speach or writing) plus you can find it in song lyrics. Sometimes parents use it when talking in their children ''be careful don't waist your time and stick to your examinations, don't spend your money with them, you have been in vacation with them?'' and many times grandfathers-grandmothers reffer to that word.

For married Men means ''the woman which have an affair'', it's a very common word here and even young women use it for themselves.

 

I am 56, family man which served in the Army so this age i have no time for ''shiny gadgets'', i don't make jokes easily and i don't provoke others as many times young ''i know everything via internet'' people do.

 

42 minutes ago, Papez said:

Is it as tight as a 16V engine in Favorit?

 

 

I will post photos tomorrow, i have gap of 3-4 cm till the plastic end of inner radiator reach a bolt with a hose from the outer radiator and i don't know if a bigger radiator can fit in there.

Here are 2 photos from my radiator, the back (the smaller) has only 3-4cm space till reach the bolt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see how a bigger radiator can fit in there. 😟

16 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

For us that term means ''girlfriend in a not serious relationsip'', it's not a slander and every young person here use it (in speach or writing) plus you can find it in song lyrics.

Fair enough, another invasive Americanism.  Where I am generally, as far as I know, unless your a fan of old American movies plays or musicals broad just means wider than usual.

 

9 minutes ago, nta16 said:

broad just means wider than usual.

 

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In Greece is ''Gomena".

''According to the version included in the Babiniotis dictionary, "Gomena" comes from the French gommeux, from the Italian gommeno, from gomme (=gum) or from the Greek gommi, from the Egyptian kmjt.

"Kommi" is a sticky aromatic substance secreted by certain plants.

We therefore paratymize, assuming that -gomme explains and interprets a person, male or female, who takes care of his appearance, perfumes himself, wants to be elegant, beautiful and attractive to the opposite sex. In short, a lover or a lover.

 

Keep in mind that ''Gay'' in your language was meaning ''the happy guy'' and we have read this word even in poems of 1700 but now means something different. Also you use the word ''Idiot'', do you know that isn't a slander word and it's Greek? The meaning of it is '' the private person" (the man which does not want to bother with State matters) ? Now if you call a guy ''idiot'' in public you may have a legal problem although originally was just a simple term.

If some Americans don't like British or some British don't like Americans or some Belgians don't like Germans or some Belgians don't like French or some Irish or some Canadians or some Polish... blah-blah...(I have no time for such things)

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OK since we finish this let's proceed to the radiator matter.

 

This is for 1.6 without a/c

https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/007601405-radiator-china-2761.html

 

Another one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172603331395?fits=Car+Make%3ASkoda|Model%3AFelicia&hash=item282ff5d343:g:RKgAAOSwuxFY3iey

CORE SIZE: 590x322

 

plus this example

https://www.car-parts.ie/car-parts/skoda/felicia-i-estate-6u5/1-6-glx-55-kw/radiator-parts/5259

 

I don't know if and how a 1.6 radiator can fit in a 1.3 engine bay since things are very tight.

 

3 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Here are 2 photos from my radiator, the back (the smaller) has only 3-4cm space till reach the bolt.

 

 

I don't see how a bigger radiator can fit in there. 😟

 

Can you move the condenser tonthe side to fit a longer radiator?

 

The 1.6 radiator is about 10cm wider than the 1.3 one. 1.9 is about the same width as the 1.6, but taller.

 

Edit: found dimensions and heat rating on jmjm.cz - although I'm not sure what's source of the information.

 

1.3 - 33 kW, dimensions 285 x 485mm

1.6 - 43 kW dimensions 285 x 590mm 1.9/1.6AC - 60 kW, 322 x 590 mm.

Edited 14 June, 20233 yr by Papez

9 minutes ago, Papez said:

 

Can you move the condenser tonthe side to fit a longer radiator?

 

1.6 - 43 kW dimensions 285 x 590mm

 

If i can "steal" 1-2 cm from one side and the 3-4cm from the other (which i can based in photos) then maybe.

Must i buy the 1.6 metal cover too or i can keep what i have?

9 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Must i buy the 1.6 metal cover too or i can keep what i have?

 

Do you mean the fan shroud? 1.3 with servo actually uses one from 1.6, so it should be fine.

 

Btw, I found photo of the condenser mounting on the factory AC. Pipes are routed through the body, above the radiator - that's how they could fit a bigger one for 1.6.

 

4 hours ago, Papez said:

1.3 - 33 kW

1.3 34% thermal efficiency

1.6 21.2% thermal efficiency

 

4 hours ago, Papez said:

1.9/1.6AC - 60 kW

negative thermal efficiency

Something fishy is going on here

5 hours ago, Papez said:

Do you mean the fan shroud? 1.3 with servo actually uses one from 1.6, so it should be fine.

 

Btw, I found photo of the condenser mounting on the factory AC. Pipes are routed through the body, above the radiator - that's how they could fit a bigger one for 1.6.

 

The black metallic plate where the fan is screwed, that cover has 2 bolts on top and 2 below the radiator.

So we keep the radiarot fan, the cover and we install a bigger radiator from 1.6 which is few cm wider?

 

I will take a photo tonight of mine from that spot since this old photo is not good.