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Rear shocks question

Ukpaul204
in Skoda Octavia Mk3 (2013 - 2020)

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Hi all, bit of advice needed if anyone can enlighten me.

I've had to replace my rear shocks on my skoda superb mk3 2.0 tdi technology, absolutely shot, I purchased some Monroe from euro car parts which I have fitted without issue. My question is that I can now see the original oem number on my old ones and it appears that Monroe don't make shocks that match up, have I made a big error?

Oem was 3q0512011hd

Monroe I fitted were 376195sp

 

The car has driven fine today over our lovely British roads lol

 

Any advice is warmly welcomed 👍

Aftermarket manufacturers will use their own and not the manufacturers part number, your believed to be OEM number does not sound like a VAG one either.

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Thanks for the reply JR, the oem number I wrote is definitely a VAG one, but it looks like it belongs to the Octavia model when I've searched on google.

I've uploaded the one I took off.

I just want to make sure that there's no problem with the set I've put on

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Message me with your VIN, or post it here. I can check what the 'real' part number of your rear shocks should be, sometimes those labels can be deceptive.

Can you confirm what car you have? Mention a superb in the first post and an Octavia in last. Also this is the Octavia section.

Have you fitted Octavia parts to a superb? Not entirely out of the question that they will fit both cars.

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15 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

Can you confirm what car you have? Mention a superb in the first post and an Octavia in last. Also this is the Octavia section.

Have you fitted Octavia parts to a superb? Not entirely out of the question that they will fit both cars.

 

My apologies, I don't know how I've ended up in the octavia section 😔

I have a superb mk3 2.0 technology spec. The shocks I've removed appear to be labelled as coming from the Octavia model and not the superb. At least this is what it seems like looking around.

I will look for my vin tomorrow in the daylight.

Thanks all for at least reading. Can someone with more experience move this to the Superb subsection?

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    3 hours ago, Ukpaul204 said:

    Hi all, bit of advice needed if anyone can enlighten me.

    I've had to replace my rear shocks on my skoda superb mk3 2.0 tdi technology, absolutely shot, I purchased some Monroe from euro car parts which I have fitted without issue. My question is that I can now see the original oem number on my old ones and it appears that Monroe don't make shocks that match up, have I made a big error?

    Oem was 3q0512011hd

    Monroe I fitted were 376195sp

     

    The car has driven fine today over our lovely British roads lol

     

    Any advice is warmly welcomed 👍

     

    As 3Q0512011HD, 3Q0513049FN, 3Q0513049FP isn't listed against Monroe 376195SP, I would have have gone for Sachs 318202 as that is listed against all three of these OEM part numbers.

     

    3Q0513049FN and 3Q0513049FP are listed as standard rear shock absorbers for the standard ride height, front wheel drive, Superb MK3 without DCC.

     

    Rear shock absorbers for the Superb MK3, standard ride height, front wheel drive, without DCC

    (7) 3Q0513049FN Rear shock absorber     1JA  
    (7) 3Q0513049FP Rear shock absorber     1JA  

    https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5

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    2 hours ago, Carlston said:

     

    As 3Q0512011HD, 3Q0513049FN, 3Q0513049FP isn't listed against Monroe 376195SP, I would have have gone for Sachs 318202 as that is listed against all three of these OEM part numbers.

     

    3Q0513049FN and 3Q0513049FP are listed as standard rear shock absorbers for the standard ride height, front wheel drive, Superb MK3 without DCC.

     

    Rear shock absorbers for the Superb MK3, standard ride height, front wheel drive, without DCC

    (7) 3Q0513049FN Rear shock absorber     1JA  
    (7) 3Q0513049FP Rear shock absorber     1JA  

    https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5

     

    As I went to eurocarparts for the shocks, and they were listed against my reg I went with the Monroes. It was only when taking off the old ones to refit the new ones that I could see the oem number.

    My question still stands, will I have any adverse effect using the ones I have fitted?

    There is no Monroe listing for that OE number, in Tec Doc the only mainstream brand listed is a Boge 30-R73-A which is a ZF brand as was the original. For Skoda it is only listed for the Octavia III, mainly the estate

     

    The Monroe 376195spt is a replacement for a huge list of VAG OE part numbers but not your original 

     

     

     

     

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    28 minutes ago, Crasher said:

    There is no Monroe listing for that OE number, in Tec Doc the only mainstream brand listed is a Boge 30-R73-A which is a ZF brand as was the original. For Skoda it is only listed for the Octavia III, mainly the estate

     

    The Monroe 376195spt is a replacement for a huge list of VAG OE part numbers but not your original 

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for the response, could it be that the original shocks I took off were incorrect for model? What are the issues with keeping the Monroe ones installed?

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    And why would eurocarparts list it as suitable for my vehicle if its not compatible?

    39 minutes ago, Ukpaul204 said:

    And why would eurocarparts list it as suitable for my vehicle if its not compatible?

     

    ECP don't know what shock absorbers are correct for your car. They just throw up a big list of parts that can fit various models of the Superb MK3, even if you enter your car's registration number.

     

    I've just searched for front brake discs for the Superb MK3 1.4 petrol on ECP. It throws up a list of front brake discs including the big 340x30mm front brake discs. These big front brake discs don't fit the 1.4 petrol.

     

    So that's just one example of how clueless ECP are about what aftermarket parts fit your car, even if you tell them exactly what car you have.

     

    Another problem with ECP is that they hide the model number of the aftermarket part and just use their own internal code. This can make it difficult to work out if a certain aftermarket part is correct for your car. ECP do this to make it more difficult to shop around and compare prices, ie. anti-competitive behaviour.

     

    Edited by Carlston

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    What's your VIN?

    10 hours ago, Ukpaul204 said:

    And why would eurocarparts list it as suitable for my vehicle if its not compatible?

     

    because they only have have very vague and limited access to a dataset of parts. theres also the problem of "platform sharing =/= correct". ie, a mk1 octy and mk4 golf - the shocks for a golf will fit the octy as same chassis but my god the ride will be terrible, and its a minefield to make sure youre not getting the wrong ones as most ECP etc parts olaces havent a notion theres any difference, and its particularly difficult to get matching rear suspension as this is where the most weight/load difference is across models on same chassis. again, look in the mk1 octy section for how many people over the yrs have ended up with saggy arses because they were sold/bought the wrong springs/dampers because they were listed as "this will fit".

     

     

    send pete your vin by PM and he'll confirm what you Should have fitted ex factory. 

     

    adverse performance issues are - 

    if they arent the load rating for your specific vehicle they may ride fine for a while but fail prematurely. or they may not ride well at all in certain conditions. good road wont notice it but get on the back roads you could be be banging around the place or feel like your in a boat rolling in the ocean waves.

     

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    As mac suggests, @Ukpaul204, this (identifying the correct fitment part via VIN) really is the starting point you need to go from, before worrying about anything else.

     

    The sticker in your photo shows a VW group part number, but not necessarily the right one for that shock absorber, it may be a subcomponent of it.

     

    Reason I say this is that the part number has 512 as its middle section. Look at Crasher's list of compatible shocks, and you'll see that all the real, actual OE part numbers have 513 as their middle characters.

    If you look at parts catalogues for Superb or Octy rear shocks, I believe you'll find that they are all 513's too, so the number you're trying to cross-reference is not helping you at all!

     

     

    Edited by Breezy_Pete

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    From a thread about front shocks, and a similar confusing part number sticker, note something similar going on between the two contradictory labels, the arrowed one being the real part number

    Screenshot 2021-06-14 14.50.47.png

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    Here is my vin.

    What's the worst that can happen if they're incorrect? Wear out faster??

    The car drives normal so far

    20230807_173509.jpg

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    8 hours ago, Breezy_Pete said:

    From a thread about front shocks, and a similar confusing part number sticker, note something similar going on between the two contradictory labels, the arrowed one being the real part number

    Screenshot 2021-06-14 14.50.47.png

     

    I should have just let the local tyre place rip me off, ignorance is bliss and all that 🤣🤣🤣

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    8 minutes ago, Ukpaul204 said:

    Here is my vin.

    What's the worst that can happen if they're incorrect? Wear out faster??

    The car drives normal so far

    20230807_173509.jpg

    Can't check for an hour or so, just arrived at gym. 

    You may well find that what you've been sold is correct, once we know the real part number we're trying to match.

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    I can't really take them back now that I've been using them lol

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    3Q0 513 049 FN is your real OE rear shock part number.

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    4 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

    3Q0 513 049 FN is your real OE rear shock part number.

     

    Thanks for that Pete, do you think it's safe to keep using the ones I've installed and just replace them with the correct ones when they fail?

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    Yes, I would think they'll be fine.

    However, phone ECP or drop in and show them how there doesn't seem to be a claimed (by Monroe) match between the ones they sold you and the correct OE number for your VIN/car, and see what they say.

     

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    25 minutes ago, Ukpaul204 said:

    Thanks for that Pete, do you think it's safe to keep using the ones I've installed and just replace them with the correct ones when they fail?

     

    The Monroe 376195SP and Sachs 318202 are sold to replace some of the same OEM part numbers such as 5Q0513029FB and 5Q0513029JT from the Octavia MK3 with standard ride height, front wheel drive, and independent rear suspension, so they must be quite similar.

     

    Edited by Carlston

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    4 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

    Yes, I would think they'll be fine.

    However, phone ECP or drop in and show them how there doesn't seem to be a claimed (by Monroe) match between the ones they sold you and the correct OE number for your VIN/car, and see what they say.

     

     

    I'll definitely pop in the branch I purchased them and make them aware of the issue so it won't affect anyone else.

     

    Thank you so much for the help and advice, top guys 👍👍👍

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