about to purchase a SH diesel octavia, the 1.6 is more common than the 2.0 and then of course there is the VRS.  wont be buying the VRS but wouldn't mind either the 1.6 or the 2.0.  

 

Which is the more reliable. ?  and i guess what are the common issues.  

 

Is the gearbox the same regardless of 1.6 or 2.0. ?

Auto or manual?

manual, i hear about problems with the auto box of that vintage

3 minutes ago, aidanki said:

manual, i hear about problems with the auto box of that vintage

Mines been faultless.  What age of car are you looking to buy?

The 2.0 is the same engine as the vrs. Vrs has a bigger turbo and injectors I think. Otherwise it's the same so reliability and servicing is the same.

The 2.0 dsg is a wet clutch version (dq250) and is known for its reliability.

The 1.6 dsg is the dry clutch version (dq200) and has a worse history although can be reliable.

Manual boxes don't get the discussion attention. Can only assume they are reliable.

VRS has more bells and whistles, plus lower suspension, two nice looking exhausts where one of them is fake.. but still looks better than standard trim and even L&K.

 

If I were you I would pick 2.0 TDI due to the better gearbox reputation and I would also avoid those with engine code CUPA which often burn oil due to poorly engineered oil rings and extended service intervals.

 

Look for one with known service history, preferably “fixed”. DSG need to be serviced every 40k, if it’s 4x4, haldex needs servicing every 30k or 3 years.

plus if the vehicle has done more than 120k, think about DPF cleaning or replacement in the near future.

9 hours ago, ords said:

Mines been faultless.  What age of car are you looking to buy?

13-15 pockets not deep enough.

 

If anyone knows anything of value for sale hint hint

9 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

The 2.0 is the same engine as the vrs. Vrs has a bigger turbo and injectors I think. Otherwise it's the same so reliability and servicing is the same.

The 2.0 dsg is a wet clutch version (dq250) and is known for its reliability.

The 1.6 dsg is the dry clutch version (dq200) and has a worse history although can be reliable.

Manual boxes don't get the discussion attention. Can only assume they are reliable.

Is that dsg box an auto 

Yes. I think nearly all VAG (VW, Skoda, Seat, Audi) auto boxes are dsg. They are dual clutch type that preselect gears and change for you. You no control over the clutch but can have control over the gear if desired.

@aidanki

Welcome.

 

What use is the car for as in journeys, long or short & how many miles / km per week?

 

Is a TDI the best car for you or could a 1.4 or 2.0 TSI do the job?

 

Look into the VW Group defeat device scandal and cars up to late 2015 and 'The Fix'.

Many had no issues and some owners cars had.  Especially 1.6 TDI,s after having the Software Update & the Flow device fitted.

Check if the car you are looking at had this done.

1 hour ago, toot said:

@aidanki

Welcome.

 

What use is the car for as in journeys, long or short & how many miles / km per week?

 

Is a TDI the best car for you or could a 1.4 or 2.0 TSI do the job?

 

Look into the VW Group defeat device scandal and cars up to late 2015 and 'The Fix'.

Many had no issues and some owners cars had.  Especially 1.6 TDI,s after having the Software Update & the Flow device fitted.

Check if the car you are looking at had this done.

50km commute each way 5 days a week 

You might get as good economy with a petrol as a diesel used during cold weather and then using more diesel during regens. 

I see a good few for sale with 120k miles or thereabouts

 

Is that when trouble Start or something 

Quite possibly but it depends how used.

Many might do high miles and no issues, maybe a keeper that never got the fix.

 

The issue can be ones that were doing too short journeys maybe.

EGR,s and DPF,s can be an issue.

 

I would rather be running a 2.0 TDI (without SCR, that is AdBlue, rather than one with.) 

& rather than a 1.6 TDI. 

 

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Which country are you in, Ireland?

I second toots theory on TDI's. Most who get diesels don't need a diesel and are potentially going to suffer with dpf issues. For your commute you may well get good economy but the added cost of diesel, the extra burn to warm up and the added fuel use for dpf burn.... I'd be looking at the 1.4 TSI. It's a peach of an engine and should get similar running costs to the 1.6 if driven right.

2 hours ago, toot said:

Quite possibly but it depends how used.

Many might do high miles and no issues, maybe a keeper that never got the fix.

 

The issue can be ones that were doing too short journeys maybe.

EGR,s and DPF,s can be an issue.

 

I would rather be running a 2.0 TDI (without SCR, that is AdBlue, rather than one with.) 

& rather than a 1.6 TDI. 

 

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Which country are you in, Ireland?

+1 for 2.0 TDI.

Have driven 1.6 TDI (old 77kW version, engine CLHA) and it's slow. I was prepared that it will be slower than my 2.0 TDI 110kW -but difference is quite huge.

3 hours ago, toot said:

Quite possibly but it depends how used.

Many might do high miles and no issues, maybe a keeper that never got the fix.

 

The issue can be ones that were doing too short journeys maybe.

EGR,s and DPF,s can be an issue.

 

I would rather be running a 2.0 TDI (without SCR, that is AdBlue, rather than one with.) 

& rather than a 1.6 TDI. 

 

?

Which country are you in, Ireland?

Yes south of Ireland 

More fuel during regens...yes, but how much more till we start to feel it with our money?

During active regen, consumption in idle is 0,8L/H which quite fast drops to 0,6L/H till regen ends (vs minimal consumption 0,5L/H when not regenerating).

Don't think that it's too much in cut of year or even month.

It takes 20min each week per each active regen (or bit' more often in winter).

But this depends on many factors- how often this happens. I have 3/4 city and 1/4 highway drives. Ok, sometimes 50/50.

On 23/09/2023 at 00:17, aidanki said:

manual, i hear about problems with the auto box of that vintage

1,6TDI and ...1,4TSI use one type of DSG.
2,0TDI and 1,8...2,0TSI use another type of DSG. Those are most reliable, mentioned for more powerful engines.
Construction of both DSG's are completely different.

On 23/09/2023 at 12:25, aidanki said:

50km commute each way 5 days a week 

If this ^ makes absolute minimum 26'000km per year- then diesel without doubt.

50km one way: in destination diesel will be always warmed up, no worries.

I have 22km drive one way / through city / each working day; in winter I got normal oil temp.90-93*C exactly at destination.