Question about clutch and gearbox on 1.6

[Warrior193]

On 14/12/2023 at 11:36, J.R. said:

Rear drum brakes are always one leading and one trailing shoe so reverse gear was not a necessity, for stuck front drum brakes it would definitely be.

Because front drums were usually twin leading shoe for extra braking assistance.

[D.FYLAKTOS]

1 hour ago, R_Blue said:

 

Also I think this is the repair kit:

 

https://www.ladaciskodaci.com/skoda-sanziman-vites-ve-difransiyel-vites-hareket-mili-tamir-takimi---12_136736880-6u0711605a_ith

 

i had a problem with the shift lever (too loose and after shift engage was trembling a bit) especially in 3rd gear, after engage often in high rpm i was hearing a ''gzzzz" sound.

I bought and i ask from the mechanic to install this

https://www.skoda-parts.com/data/items/254/5aa278e4b4ab5_xl.jpg

and the Rear Gearshift Bush

https://www.skoda-parts.com/data/items/289/5dc0172bd879e.jpg

both from a Cz store and the problem solved, the gear shift changes are more ''robust'' and no sound.

[R_Blue]

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

i had a problem with the shift lever (too loose and after shift engage was trembling a bit) especially in 3rd gear, after engage often in high rpm i was hearing a ''gzzzz" sound.

I bought and i ask from the mechanic to install this

https://www.skoda-parts.com/data/items/254/5aa278e4b4ab5_xl.jpg

and the Rear Gearshift Bush

https://www.skoda-parts.com/data/items/289/5dc0172bd879e.jpg

both from a Cz store and the problem solved, the gear shift changes are more ''robust'' and no sound.

Good info.
Both parts are available here.

I can do the rest.

[J.R.]

3 hours ago, Warrior193 said:

Because front drums were usually twin leading shoe for extra braking assistance.

 

Indeed, there was never a need for servo assisted brakes until front disc brakes became common, twin leading shoe drum brakes are self servo assisted!

[Thefeliciahacker]

42 minutes ago, J.R. said:

are self servo assisted

not quite they just have a tendancy to jack and abruptly lock up due to the twisting of the brake shoes yes that is self assisting, but not assisting you in modulating brake pressure

[J.R.]

That is why new shoes have a chamfer on the leading edge and a good mechanic will recreate this before refitting worn ones, the self assistance I mentioned is the raison d'être of leading brake shoes and it is a historic fact that brake servos became commonplace with the introduction of front disc brakes.

 

The leading shoe movement is a force multiplier in exactly the same linear fashion that a vacuum brake servo is. I never said that the leading shoe system increases brake line pressure, it does not need to.

Edited 16 December, 2023 by J.R.

[Orchid70]

We make chamferr on brake pads as well, not only shoes. 
AND on pads, new and used pads, that go back on during a "refurbish", we cut 2-3 incisions with angle ginder disc. 

I mentioned her suspicion, because its not sure she wants to fix this car. Unfortunatelly. But its always difficult with old cars and with owners who dont have the money. "If I pay all this money to fix this, can you promise me nothing else needs to be fixed!" Also, she seems to have problem making her mind up 😃 
And we already have 5 cars here we are supposed to fix in order and sell. 

I am always thankfull for the forums and communities that share with each other. 

This is what I ordered some 5-6 years ago for a 1996 1.6 Felicia that was owned by an other customer: https://allegro.pl/oferta/przegub-drazka-zmian-biegow-skoda-felicia-felicja-14062520423
The linkage attachment to gearbox was an other model than on later models, if I remember correct.

[RicardoM]

5 hours ago, Orchid70 said:

This is what I ordered some 5-6 years ago for a 1996 1.6 Felicia that was owned by an other customer: https://allegro.pl/oferta/przegub-drazka-zmian-biegow-skoda-felicia-felicja-14062520423

Oh yes, VIKA and their Chinese $hitty rubber quality and cheap steel. That part of the gear linkage was used on cars before October 1996 according to ETKA.

[Orchid70]

Jup! The steel was ****E! It is welded together now.....
I was just huppy to be able to find anything at that time - because VAG was NO help, what sooo ever 😃 
And thats what was on that car. From 1996.
The gear linkage feels the same on 1996 and 2001 cars how ever.

 

[RicardoM]

@Orchid70 Just out of curiosity, can you guesstimate how many Skoda Felicias are in Sweden? Are they fit with Webasto from the factory?