22 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Paparoyaba

kayayaba, but who cares bout the brand????? ONLY people who believe in marketing, i just care its an OE type suspension

22 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

and with your ''balloon'' 75 tyre height you think you have achieve something great.

I HAVE achived driving comfort, suspension components and vehicle trim protection, I dont have rattles, I dont worry about my VERY VERY rare FACTORY EXIP alloys, I dont worry about damage to my suspension components, I have less road noise (without the need of sound insulation), I have acheived something very very great.

I have less NVH that your kitty car without modifying a single bolt and without spending a single dime AND without needing to run 0W-16 oil to get there ahhahaah

Edited 8 January, 20242 yr by Dean

You may have vision issues, that's why you are writing with big bold red letters.

 

Don't worry, the other topic was deleted or will compleately modified, since we ''solve things" in another 2 topic you can write anything you want because i will not see it.

I wonder why i haven't see you in the other 2 Skoda forums in GR, now i know the reason, you couldn't stay there more than a week.

Keep your pordoyaba, we here buy Koni for 2 reasons, they are good quality and have A' class repair service, drivers with tons of practical experience and pros recommend them.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

2 Skoda forums in GR

cause they dont talk bout felicias 

No, it's not that the reason, especially in GTC there were guys with racing experience in England-Germany-USA, guys with tons of practical experience, professionals (tyres, suspensions etc) that they could ''crush'' you in a second.

No huge bold letters, no HAHAHAHA, no copy-paste from your school books.

I would love to see you saying all these for Koni rebuild, you wouldn't last even a week.

1 minute ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

No, it's not that the reason, especially in GTC there were guys with racing experience in England-Germany-USA,

How do you know I only specialize in felly and favorit with minor knowledge bout rwd skodas

@ThefeliciahackerI don't know the two companies but do know business very generally (some areas very specifically) but wonder if Koni also engage engineers for the research, design and fitment of their products to the vehicles they are to be fitted to and then perhaps development from use and sales and I would be very surprised if VW didn't employ, internally and externally, very many people in the marketing of their vehicles.

 

Many companies may train their new intake of say engineers, or marketing people or others, and may tell them that they, the engineers or marketing people or others, are the backbone, survival and profit of the company, the present and future of the company which may give some of the engineers or or marketing people or others, a feeling of (greater) importance of their position in and to the company than any/most others in the company when the truth is all people and jobs are important to the company and contribute positives, and some negatives, to the company.

 

Please don't fall into the trap of some engineers and acquire excess arrogance (similar to a medical surgeon but without the extra education, training and experience and often good looks) and look down on others and think you can learn nothing from them (often because they think they already know everything when that is impossible and they can be out of date and wrong with what they know).  The jobs you may well want in the future may be ripe picking for AI.

 

Edited 9 January, 20242 yr by nta16

46 minutes ago, nta16 said:

but wonder if Koni also engage engineers for the research, design and fitment of their products to the vehicles they are to be fitted to and then perhaps development from use and sales and I would be very surprised if VW didn't employ, internally and externally, very many people in the marketing of their vehicles.

You are deliberately mixing things up, koni ofcourse employed engineers, the issue is they dont present the facts as they were engineered but rather by how the marketing dept wants them to be promoted.

 

48 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Please don't fall into the trap of some engineers and acquire excess arrogance

You dont understand, I never behave arrogant, I just like to talk facts with people with real understanding of the matter, I will not accept misconceptions as facts so I do not appear arrogant to someone who thinks "because I did it and it worked its technically correct" 

 

51 minutes ago, nta16 said:

and look down on others and think you can learn nothing from them

never looked down on anyone

 

58 minutes ago, nta16 said:

they think they already know everything

well guess who thinks that, and a tip, it aint me.

Thanks for replying

 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

You are deliberately mixing things up, koni ofcourse employed engineers, the issue is they dont present the facts as they were engineered but rather by how the marketing dept wants them to be promoted.

No I'm not.  And how else do you think companies sell their products to the general public, they're not selling exclusively to engineers or trade/commercial concerns with a general website.

 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

You dont understand, I never behave arrogant, I just like to talk facts with people with real understanding of the matter, I will not accept misconceptions as facts so I do not appear arrogant to someone who thinks "because I did it and it worked its technically correct" 

I do understand and I never put you should not put facts or accept misconceptions.  Though you before you could almost guarantee something was a fact and followed with you only deal in facts but I took that as a typo or 'misspeak'.  I am advising you not to become too arrogant as some can be, you need some arrogance but then you're best to be certain of your facts, that they are correct and up to date.  You will do as you please but I bet you will think differently and be different in 20 or 30 years, but then I can't guarantee it.

 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

never looked down on anyone

That's great and pretty rare in my experience and I include myself.

 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

well guess who thinks that, and a tip, it aint me.

Uhmmmmmm?  Is it the one that keeps asking questions or the one that dictate what answers are to be given.  🤣  Sorry I couldn't resist.

 

 

C'mon then please tell me what physical damage will D.FYLAKTOS' set up do, simply name parts damaged (not a lesson in maths and geometry please as it's all beyond me) - I won't "dare" you as I've not heard of such since I left infant school, I just ask you again.

 

If you want to have a laugh or extract the urine out of D.FYLAKTOS or me it's fine by me but in my opinion best not lead by the would-be despot autocratic dictator - but you do as you please and run with who you please, I'm not your parents or grandparents (or senior engineering tutor) to give you advice about life.

 

My 2 cents about our young fellow Andreas, also known as @Thefeliciahacker

He is well informed about car mechanics and he made a personal hobby from repairing and maintaining his car(s). I don't see him as arrogant at all. I don't mind when he has different opinions than mine if he comes with valid, pertinent alternatives.

My understanding is he doesn't like technical DISINFORMATION. More precisely, he wouldn't like that wrong technical opinions to remain as valuable tips for those who read the topics in this section. It is understandable why we have the same views. It is not a sign of arrogance if he reacts to technical misinformation coming from amateurs who never repaired anything on their fELICIA with their hands and who believe in marketing claims as if it is the Bible.

6 minutes ago, nta16 said:

C'mon then please tell me what physical damage will D.FYLAKTOS' set up do, simply name parts damaged (not a lesson in maths and geometry please as it's all beyond me) - I won't "dare" you as I've not heard of such since I left infant school, I just ask you again.

It is disturbing that you struggle so much for somebody who does not deserve to be helped anymore because he is deaf to any advice. He will have to learn the damage the HARD way. I cry daily for him, especially since he poses like a victim from a Spartan war in his lame signature. Cry me a river 😪

I think Andreas 'Thefeliciahacker' generally seems a good sort (as we say in England)  I'm not sure about the "chicks" and "chick" references but I'm not in or from Greece, he gives lots of good and helpful advice in a honest manner.  The arrogance is to say D.FYLAKTOS will destroy or damage his car or parts of it and not say what when D.FYLAKTOS has put that his car has been the way it is for 21(?) years.  So it must be very slow destruction and damage and considering very few (in the UK at least) have managed to keep Felicias still used on the roads let alone used regularly and driven in a very spirited manner on mountain road.

 

The effect is D.FYLAKTOS and I have been told this will happen because as an engineer has said,, which is fair enough as a higher level of expertise, but the evidence appears to show that this hasn't happened.

 

10 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

It is disturbing that you struggle so much for somebody who does not deserve to be helped anymore because he is deaf to any advice. He will have to learn the damage the HARD way. I cry daily for him, especially since he poses like a victim from a Spartan war in his lame signature. Cry me a river 😪

It might be disturbing to you, but I am not you which I am sure we are both very relieved about, I have seen D.FYLAKTOS take advice but yes he does want to test the advice for himself and see what suits his needs and and wants.  Good to know you have some empathy, it must have hurt for you to admit to it.  😉  I get what you want but your methods have been very blunt, often nasty and worst of all for you very ineffective to your original your aims, so as you would with a car, mechanical or engineering problems you must try something else that might resolve your issue rather than using a BFH that's getting you nowhere slowly.  But that's just advice for you and I'm not a professional qualified expert of course.

 

You put you want the threads to have correct definitive answers and not misinformation yet there doesn't appear to be a definitive answer here and the only information I can see here is that D.FYLAKTOS' suspension seems to have defied being destroyed or damaged, at least outside what is considered legal in Greece - unless he has a professional examiner that is prepared to give vehicle examination passes without seeing that particular vehicle or use results from another vehicle as some professionals do in the UK (MoT over the phone, as I call it).

 

If Andreas doesn't want to answer me that is fine, nobody is under any obligation to answer any post here and I accept sometimes it's better not to give an answer but I don't under why on this one one but if I can't persuade an answer I certainly can't force one, or you to read passed the second line.  😉

 

9 hours ago, nta16 said:

C'mon then please tell me what physical damage will D.FYLAKTOS' set up do, simply name parts damaged (not a lesson in maths and geometry please as it's all beyond me) - I won't "dare" you as I've not heard of such since I left infant school, I just ask you again.

Okay physical damage. 

Higher vibration will cause interior trim mountings to deteriorate in a faster rate. But when I said what I said I meant he makes the geometry worse, meaning altering vehicle dynamics meaning that now the possibility of damage ends with total vehicle destruction caused from a crash due to the altered vehicle dynamics 

9 hours ago, RicardoM said:

More precisely, he wouldn't like that wrong technical opinions to remain as valuable tips for those who read the topics in this section.

RicardoM is on point here, I think the felly is a dying breed and we should be leaving the best and most technically information behind for future reference. 

If 3 years later someone willing to keep a felly running comes searching for replacement shocks I don't want him to think that the proper approach is the orange konis. 

7 hours ago, nta16 said:

I'm not sure about the "chicks" and "chick" references but I'm not in or from Greece

Well Andreas is 23-24 years old, at that age you really just need-want to plain and simple have fun, and so want the same age group gals, I don't want to get married, engaged, nor currently in the market for a 3 year relationship. Thus the term "chick" is being used. 

For now we only focus on the academic side of life with small "breaks" for the aforementioned reason 

7 hours ago, nta16 said:

will destroy 

Exactly will destroy the dynamics 

 

7 hours ago, nta16 said:

The effect is D.FYLAKTOS and I have been told this will happen because as an engineer has said,, which is fair enough as a higher level of expertise, but the evidence appears to show that this hasn't happened

Uhm you don't really know do you, has fylaktos taken the car to a skid pad to check lateral acceleration? I doubt it.... 

 

7 hours ago, nta16 said:

You put you want the threads to have correct definitive answers and not misinformation yet there doesn't appear to be a definitive answer here and the only information I can see here is that D.FYLAKTOS' suspension seems to have defied being destroyed or damaged, at least outside what is considered legal in Greece - unless he has a professional examiner that is prepared to give vehicle examination passes without seeing that particular vehicle or use results from another vehicle as some professionals do in the UK (MoT over the phone, as I call it).

Excuse me but that is total nonsense 😂

You are DELIBERATELY assuming that destruction is the car being disentegrated into 3 million pieces, yet you stray from the fact that the vehicle is being made worse by destroying the suspension geometry, and fitting a custom exhaust. 

Fun fact 99.9% of exhaust shops in Greece don't know how to properly size exhaust length and diameter, the just GUESS

8 hours ago, nta16 said:

But that's just advice for you and I'm not a professional qualified expert of course.

Sorry for repeating this to you, but for somebody who has zero technical expertise, you come with an awful lot of advice, not to mention endless trolling. The topics in this section are rivers of platitudes because of you. Sometimes i wonder if you are not a chat bot or some sort of virus. But that is a very slim probability, since it is obvious you are a lonely, retired person who has too much free time at home. Better try knitting, gardening, raising "chicks" (in the backyard), taking long walks in local parks, or God forbid, find a wife to keep you company and keeping you away from the Internet.

This topic is about Koni rebuild, for almost 30 years here we buy Koni because they are good quality and they are repairable.

Koni has experienced engineers and takes tons of feedback from testers-Racing drivers, does not need the opinion of a banana farmer.

A student with no working experience at all can not (no matter how hard he tries) cancel the products of a world famous company, this reminds my some students which publish again and again studies about car accessoires (how dangerous are, what kind of damage they produce etc) but when finally get a job in a company automatically shout their mouth and forget everything !

So, must i reverse the whole procedure in my car and remove everything extra only because a kid and his puppy only chatter paraphilology by collusion?

 

@nta16 : The MOT official is an engineer, when the student above hired in a MOT centre do you really believe that will ''cancel'' a car because has after market suspension and lowering springs? NO.

 

@Thefeliciahacker once again thank you for replying, it might be a difference in language but I could not get the meaning of destroy and damage you have now explained to me from what you initially put.

 

I don't agree that anyone looking for replacement shocks will mistake the information about Koni DAMPERS 🙂 for anything other than has been put.  You must also consider that at some point(s) original parts will be unavailable or no longer available.  I have been using cars older than the Felicia as daily drivers for longer than you have been alive let alone interested in them so I do have some experience and dare 🙂 I say knowledge of finding technical knowledge and replacement parts dealing with retailers, suppliers and manufactures (and for other items before the "classic" cars).

6 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Thus the term "chick" is being used. 

Different times and different places but I can understand anyone at anytime wanting to have fun in fact they must, D.FYLAKTOS has fun driving his Felly up mountain roads and so far at least hasn't killed himself or anyone else (that he's told us about anyway).  Up to you what you do but I think and know from personal experience that if you think of women not as chicks but as equal to yourself (or perhaps realise they're generally better if you're a typical heterosexual male) then you will still be able to have fun with just as many girls/women as you want, realise some/many/all may want exact the same as you.

 

6 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Uhm you don't really know do you, has fylaktos taken the car to a skid pad to check lateral acceleration? I doubt it.... 

I have been to a Porsche test track wet skid pan at Silverstone (about 10 or so miles down the road) a couple of times on Aston Martin Owners Club charity runs (AM factory used to be 20 miles away and I lived about 4 miles from it when I was young) and from what I could see it was the drivers that failed not the cars even those that had non-standard suspension, about half the cars on the run were other than AM.  I didn't need to prove I wasn't a good driver and I wasn't in my car for the runs.

 

Young people of your age, boys and girls, would test their cars' capabilities on shopping centres car parks, I think D.FYLAKTOS is well passed that stage of life and too sensible to test to extreme his suspension on wet or dry public roads.

 

Best tuning (after full and proper servicing, maintenance and repairs) you can do on a car to increase its performance is driver training and its transferable to many other vehicles.

 

6 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

You are DELIBERATELY assuming that destruction is the car being disentegrated into 3 million pieces, yet you stray from the fact that the vehicle is being made worse by destroying the suspension geometry

No I wasn't, I put car, components parts as you didn't specify so I couldn't put any particular part of the car, I wasn't thinking of total destruction of the car and didn't realise you meant destroy near purity of the geometry, I think most people would have thought of something physical being damaged and also not in an ultimate crash like the image that was posted, I thought you meant parts or components or part of the car would be damaged which I think most people would consider a reasonable line of thinking if not studying suspension engineering.

 

6 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Fun fact 99.9% of exhaust shops in Greece don't know how to properly size exhaust length and diameter, the just GUESS

I've no idea of the percentage of course but I can well imagine that some or perhaps many might just guess, over here I'm sure many just guess too but we do have plenty of specialist in exhaust design, build and install and some specialising in particular makes or types of vehicles.  I took my Midget to one and for a middle pipe, there was no computer design used just a length of (header) pipe off the pile and a bit of bending.  They had to come out and measure the track of the Midget to make sure they could close the width of their lift enough to get the Midget on it and asked me to drive the car on as it was a pretty close thing when closed up.

 

Just because someone hasn't studied at engineer level doesn't mean they haven't had lots of experience with cars and a lot more than I wanted of those experiences with engineers, mechanics and company owners have been bad, I expect to some extent D.FYLAKTOS has had similar experience so we don't accept all that some engineers, mechanics and company owners tell us is the gospel truth and even not just conning us - present company excepted - meaning I am in no way suggesting you or RicardoM are putting anything but what you know or believe or have any interest in conning anyone, just we have got used to asking questions to confirm matters.

 

6 hours ago, RicardoM said:

Sorry for repeating this to you, but for somebody who has zero technical expertise, you come with an awful lot of advice, not to mention endless trolling. The topics in this section are rivers of platitudes because of you. Sometimes i wonder if you are not a chat bot or some sort of virus. But that is a very slim probability, since it is obvious you are a lonely, retired person who has too much free time at home. Better try knitting, gardening, raising "chicks" (in the backyard), taking long walks in local parks, or God forbid, find a wife to keep you company and keeping you away from the Internet.

I some times wonder if you are the type to be a disciple or supporter of the likes of Andrew Tate but realise it's more likely that he might be a follower or supporter of you.

 

You too seem to have enough time to follow my posts and put sometimes long posts of your own to explain or get at me, I'm pleased you have this free time available as it must be very relaxing for you, I'm glad to be of this benefit to you.

 

How can I be lonely when I have the company of friends like you, I'm beginning to like you a little despite your restricted repertoire. Knitting is poor as an insult, I wish I could knit, I tried it once but was hopeless, I've also seen bearded military men with big-forearms proudly knitting but they didn't use make-up on their facial and head hair.

 

Chat bot, I wonder who you could have been conversing with.  😄

 

6 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The MOT official is an engineer

I'm not saying it's impossible that an MoT tester over here is an engineer but I believe generally they are mechanics or perhaps technicians, AFAIK they have to be qualified but you can easily get variances as to their qualified opinion of a condition of something on or about the car which another qualified MoT tester may give a different conclusion to.  Bearing mind all results only apply to that one point in time and conditions can change.

 

I was told by one mechanic that my wife's one year old Skoda replacement front dampers would fail the upcoming MoT test so when I got the Skoda Dealership to get in replacement front dampers under warranty and complete an MoT at no charge they reported back to my wife that the new replacement damper were not fitted as they were not required because the Dealership MoT tester (they decline my idea of taking the car elsewhere to get the MoT done) stated they did not require replacement dampers as the one fitted only had "slight misting" and that was normal and acceptable for those dampers.  It was not even recorded as an Advisory on the MoT which I had learnt might be the case elsewhere.  Qualified people work on personal opinions too, hopefully based on their training and experience.

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

I have been using cars older than the Felicia as daily drivers for longer than you have been alive let alone interested in them so I do have some experience and dare 🙂

 

Right !

"You can not buy experience".

I start driving at 4th class Primary school (illegaly, not in public), i got my driving license before i go to the Army, i pass the test and after 2 month training i became a driver, then as Civilian i start driving sport motorcycles for a decade (ALL these before the student was born) and later cars.

 

I am not an expert and i will never be because i have no more time and the  nessecairy money.

There is no Skidpad in country villages here but there are 350+ km of Mountain Roads (with Highway are more and the Mountain Roads of Athens don't count on this) which offer unique experience that a desk can not provide you so we have real Practise vs only Theory.

 

Same turns with the same car (other cars that i have drive don't count on this), Stock or with upgrades, stock suspension or Koni shocks, Eibach and Apex springs and still according to a student (the Hahas don't count) which haven't worked a single day so far, i can not say if my rebuilted suspension works good or not plus i had to justify to him (and his Pet) why i need a better than Stock suspension?

8 minutes ago, nta16 said:

MoT tester

 

No Mechanical Engineer degree, no MOT centre licence. The inspection is in plain view.

3 different (Private sector) MOT suspension testers, 2 independent mechanics (many times ask them while i was present to make inspection), multiple Alignments, the Koni installer and the Official Koni service didn't found the "damage" that a student says that i have plus ALL of them gave me the "OK" while the kid says i am "unsafe".

 

4 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

No Mechanical Engineer degree, no MOT centre licence. The inspection is in plain view.

3 different (Private sector) MOT suspension testers, 2 independent mechanics (many times ask them while i was present to make inspection), multiple Alignments, the Koni installer and the Official Koni service didn't found the "damage" that a student says that i have plus ALL of them gave me the "OK" while the kid says i am "unsafe".

MOT centre is just to make sure something is legal, mechanics look at the condition of the components and aligment shop perform aligments plus they have no interest in breaking your heart as the will loose a client. For them you are money, and for the mot tester you are a legal obligation 

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

MOT centre

they have no interest in breaking your heart as the will loose a client.

 

For them you are money

 

No, in many cases they show ''red cart'' to a driver and wrote notes in the MOT paper to come for an inspection again.

Oh, so if i was visited a repair shop and installed a Moufoyaba shock absorbers i would be ''safe'' for the next 15 years at least?

I wouldn't be ''money'' for them? I will keep that i mind when i visit a ''Pro'' not spending time and money with amateurs (with no Engineer's degree).

 

 

''when the going gets tough, the Tough get going".

3 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

MOT centre is just to make sure something is legal

not

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

MOT centre

they have no interest in breaking your heart as the will loose a client.

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Oh, so if i was visited a repair shop and installed a Moufoyaba shock absorbers i would be ''safe'' for the next 15 years at least?

only if you fit original shocks either OE or OEM

You must have something different in your set of MoT regulations over there than in England.  Here some car owners and buyers think that if a car has a  MoT pass then it must be good and fine until the next annual MoT test so I often point out that a (genuine) MoT pass only means the car passed the statutory minimum legal requirement at that one moment in time, to one (hopefully trained and qualified) person's opinion, it doesn't mean the car is good or as good as it should or could be and that the car could potentially fail another test the moment the first test has finished.

 

But a minimum requirement is that the car is roadworthy and if there is something dangerous on or about the car then there is plenty in the MoT test to fail it and unless it was a dodgy MoT it would be failed and the driver told he couldn't drive it on the road until it was put right.  No genuine tester would take any chances over anything dangerous, and the word dangerous can appear in a MoT fail sheet with as many items that meet the criteria.  Many places only do MoT tests to pick up the work that can follow from even a "PASS" without any "advisories" let alone a "PASS" with "advisories" or a "FAIL".

 

Cars over 40 years old do not need to take a MoT test but if they do they must "PASS" to be allowed to be used on the roads again though much of the modern MoT doesn't and/or can't apply you can fail by just having a bulb not illuminating, empty windscreen washer bottle, etc..

 

28 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

 

only if you fit original shocks either OE or OEM

 

Never !

On 10/01/2024 at 21:31, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Never !

Never ever!