2 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

For example my Remus, Foliatec have TÜV approval

Sooo they are road legal

37 minutes ago, nta16 said:

But does it deserve that higher authority or is it like the continuing myth that "German engineering quality" means it's always high quality, when it often isn't

If there is one country good at settings standards thats germany.

DIN, VDE, TUV, ISO(not german but close enough) etc just to name a few, are the best people for setting industry standards.

Its the same as SAE in the states

Edited 16 January, 20242 yr by Thefeliciahacker

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

As I've put before my wife's VWSkoda factory fitted dampers only lasted 6 years and 41k-miles (66,000 km) and their replacement almost failed the next MoT less than 12 months later because the replacements were "misting" which the local Skoda Dealership said was normal, yet on asking my friends that have had lots of different cars over decades and more than a few cars now they said they have never experienced this other than as a failure of the part - so much for OE quality!

You are very hasty on conclusions about OE quality by totally disregarding a lot of variables. Driving incidents, quality of the roads, harsh environment, honesty of the dealers, work quality of the dealers, and a lot more. There are no parts better than OE parts.

42 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

If there is one country good at settings standards thats germany.

Yes but what standards applying to what in what way, standards can be for a minimum accepted level which can be different to what is a level for a good product, or applying to something other than perhaps build/use quality.  I could only give you my one example of my experience of TUV as that's all I've had directly.  Would the dampers on my my wife's VWSkoda car be covered by TUV, if so I'd prefer other makes that are well engineered and built and last decades of use as on my mates non-Germany cars.

 

Standards - ISO 9001 is boasted about here, literally more of a paper exercise and brings little to product quality directly.

 

@Thefeliciahacker can you tell me where in the manual or in their site Skoda suggests:

Use of 70 tyre profile (you have installed) and the use of G13 in Felicia engine (you have installed).

 

The first years the Official Skoda dealers saying that OE engine oil is Valvoline, few years later some saying Aral (in my first Warranty service Never saw them), the same confusion in Brake Fluid,Coolant etc.

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

There are no parts better than OE parts.

 

You are kidding aren't you...???   If you believe that you need certifying as slightly mad...

 

Sure some will be much better than 'ebay specials' but there are many, many OE parts that are 'engineered' down to a price and nowhere near as good as aftermarket parts from other manufacturers.  Skoda brake discs and pads come to mind as one immediately well known item...   made of lower quality materials and poorly finished.  Turbo hoses are another well known OE failure item where aftermarket items are far better.  There will be many other examples too - not everything but enough to categorically disprove your comment.

35 minutes ago, nta16 said:

 

Standards - ISO 9001 is boasted about here, literally more of a paper exercise and brings little to product quality directly.

 

 

ISO9001 is a quality management system standard - it relates to how you manage your quality management - as opposed to how you manage the quality of what you produce.

29 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Use of 70 tyre profile

!65!  spedometer deviation of +-3% due to tire size diameter difference is acceptable as per universal standards

32 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

G13 in Felicia engine (you have installed).

G13 is the latest revision of vw coolant certifications thus superseding all previous revisions

31 minutes ago, skomaz said:

it relates to how you manage your quality management - as opposed to how you manage the quality of what you produce.

correct

3 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

You are very hasty on conclusions about OE quality by totally disregarding a lot of variables. Driving incidents, quality of the roads, harsh environment, honesty of the dealers, work quality of the dealers, and a lot more.

No I am not.  I have decades of experience of business and businesses, various car ownership, driving on the roads we have here in England and UK (many in very poor quality for a "1st world country"), a member of a multi-marque car club for 20+ years and other car clubs, know people in the car trade (including mechanics and specialists).  My neighbour has been driving on the same local roads with an older car for many years before my wife bought her Fabia and is still on factory fitted dampers.  Plus her Fabia Mk3 isn't the only one to need the factory dampers replaced.  My wife and I are careful to avoid potholes, bumping up kerbs, and traffic calming road humps.  My previous car, and others I have had were too narrow in track for the many traffic calming road humps here in UK so had to be taken with more caution than other driver's would need to take with their cars.

 

Once again your arrogance of thinking you know taking variables into consideration is beyond me and I have no understanding or experience of anything (other than knitting according to you) I often put about taking variables into consideration, in fact I put so in a post today - before you highlighted the need to me.

 

What caused the "misting" of the less than 12-months old replacement dampers, my supposed ignorance of variables perhaps.  😄

 

I have dealt with business side product sales and customer returns and dealt with the general public for decades and business to business so I do know about customer and business variable in use of products, thank you.

 

1 hour ago, skomaz said:

ISO9001 is a quality management system standard - it relates to how you manage your quality management - as opposed to how you manage the quality of what you produce.

Yes, I've been at a business when ISO 9001 was first being implemented, and know a couple of people, one had a job implementing and checking standards inhouse (not 9001) and another whose business is to help businesses implement or draw up the required systems and documentation of various standards.

 

It was more that businesses sometimes present the ISO 9001 as if it relates to their products   ISO 9000 was only what a good business with good owners and bosses would have been doing but without the "lie sheets".  Sheet of tick-boxes from Dealership service anyone, often entertaining reading.

 

Edited 16 January, 20242 yr by nta16
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37 minutes ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

G13 is the latest revision of vw coolant certifications thus superseding all previous revisions

What about 12evo then?

 

I wonder if VW have their own numbers for stuff and keep changing them not just for commercial contract or  other requirements but perhaps to cover compromises in their builds - by the manufacturing side of course not engineering compromises or mistakes obviously.

 

 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

If there is one country good at settings standards thats germany.

 

Yeah, that's why Siemens has over 100 years reputation as a company which bribe politicians/militants around the World.

In Greece we call it Mizens which means he gives bribes (miza = engine starter).

 

Don't forget the scandal of emissions (VW), the scandal of Steel cartel (Daimler, Bosch, BMW, VW) ,the scandal of "Syndicate of 5" (Daimler, VW, BMW, Porsche, Audi) ,the scandal or NO2 experiements in Humans (VW, Daimler, BMW) the scandal of diesel experiements in apes (VW).

Bear in mind setting standards isn't the same as keeping to them.

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

What caused the "misting" of the less than 12-months old replacement dampers, my supposed ignorance of variables perhaps.  😄

I have already answered to this SPECIFIC question, but it is obvious you are blinded by hate and too superficial to get it. Your arguments are always a long list of TANGENT subjects (your entire life, your unrelated business, your mates, your neighbours, your other cars, etc, etc)

I will try again, maybe this time you will be able to reason. Here are the possibilities: "honesty of the dealers, work quality of the dealers."

You don't know for sure what parts they installed (new or refurbished, rejected parts). You don't know for sure if they installed correctly the part. Dealers can easily cut corners because time is money, or even worse, they can intentionally do a sloppy job because they were angered by the client).

Feel free to rant as usual but without breaking the rules of the forum. The "Report" button is just one click away.

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

G13 is the latest revision of vw coolant certifications thus superseding all previous revisions

 

So all the Skoda cars with G11,G12,G12+ must convert to G13? Where is that Skoda direction written?

 

From 165/70/13 till 175/65/14 the Revolutions per mile is -3,8% and difference in mm at 3,9%.

Is out of the regulation and when the speed limit is 120 you are actually more than that, oh God that's illegal !!!

The Autobahnpolizei will caught you.

 

2 hours ago, skomaz said:

You are kidding aren't you...???   If you believe that you need certifying as slightly mad...

Have you ever heard of diversity of opinions? What is wrong with you? Daily life became too expensive in the UK? Personal problems? Too much coffee and sugar? Or just hatred? You can have your own arguments without resorting to aggressiveness.

Believe it or not, this is a section dedicated to CLASSIC Skodas. All my replies refer to CLASSIC Skodas. I will always stay on that subject despite the section being trolled and transformed into a mess of everything and nothing. I am well aware of poor quality of the parts put by VW on cars newer than Skoda Felicia. Too much plastic.

26 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

175/65/14

vs 175/60/14

53 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

Your arguments are always a long list of TANGENT subjects (your entire life, your unrelated business, your mates, your neighbours, your other cars, etc, etc)

I put those to give context and show I have some experience and knowledge as I am not a mechanic or engineer in the hope you will see some relevance but really more for others to show that you don't have to be a mechanic or engineer to post in this section.  You are always putting about these being simple cars so they to me they don't vary that much with other cars of the time and older cars and generalities existing without always the need for exact technical model specific details.  You should also consider you are not the only viewer of these posts, we are not in private messaging / direct messaging or whatever it's called (now wouldn't that be fun).

 

I give credit where it's due and you do answer questions, even if sometimes, often to me, you get unnecessarily nasty and try to be controlling.

 

40 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

Here are the possibilities: "honesty of the dealers, work quality of the dealers."

You don't know for sure what parts they installed (new or refurbished, rejected parts). You don't know for sure if they installed correctly the part. Dealers can easily cut corners because time is money, or even worse, they can intentionally do a sloppy job because they were angered by the client).

Again, I know the variables, including those you have listed.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

You don't know for sure if they installed correctly the part.

You are quite right they could have fitted the original dampers incorrectly at the Skoda factory.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

Feel free to rant as usual but without breaking the rules of the forum. The "Report" button is just one click away.

Are you telling me this or writing it to remind yourself.

 

You are a typical bully as soon as anyone stands up to you start weeping like an infant.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

  2 hours ago, skomaz said:

You are kidding aren't you...???   If you believe that you need certifying as slightly mad...

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

Have you ever heard of diversity of opinions?

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣  Coming from YOU!

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

What is wrong with you? Daily life became too expensive in the UK? Personal problems? Too much coffee and sugar? Or just hatred?

You seem to be the one with all the hatred, no need for anyone to bring anymore you've filled the placed with it.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

You can have your own arguments without resorting to aggressiveness.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣  Coming from YOU!

 And you put aggressive replies, a lot.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

All my replies refer to CLASSIC Skodas. I will always stay on that subject despite the section being trolled and transformed into a mess of everything and nothing.

No you do not refer to classic Skodas in all your replies, no you do not always stay on subject.

 

Again, you are a typical bully as soon as anyone stands up to you start weeping like an infant.  Push the 'Report' posters are disagreeing with you and not following your rules, sometimes replying in a similar, but milder, manner to you.

 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

I am well aware of poor quality of the parts put by VW on cars newer than Skoda Felicia. Too much plastic.

This you and I can at least agree on - we end on an agreement, things are improving lets try to keep moving in the same positive direction. 

 

Edited 16 January, 20242 yr by nta16

@Thefeliciahacker 

What brand and viscosity was the OE engine oil when you bought your Felicia?

What brand was the brake fluid?

What brand were the brake discs and pads?

 

I am aksing because i want to know how much different products i have installed than OE.

 

As for the joke of the century:

 

Quote

There are no parts better than OE parts.

 

someone is in illusion from fever and thinks he owns a high-end car or a super car. 

 

@nta16

As for the threat on you, i thought was Beware the beast in Carb(uretor) but it is Beware the beast in Black.

 

 

29 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

What brand and viscosity was the OE engine oil when you bought your Felicia?

If it meets oe specs its fine,

29 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

What brand was the brake fluid?

BOSCH and bosch couldnt source but I sourced ate-sl with exactly the same wet and dry boiling points and viscocity still meets vw specs

 

30 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

What brand were the brake discs and pads?

unknown

2 hours ago, RicardoM said:

Have you ever heard of diversity of opinions? What is wrong with you? Daily life became too expensive in the UK? Personal problems? Too much coffee and sugar? Or just hatred? You can have your own arguments without resorting to aggressiveness.

Believe it or not, this is a section dedicated to CLASSIC Skodas. All my replies refer to CLASSIC Skodas. I will always stay on that subject despite the section being trolled and transformed into a mess of everything and nothing. I am well aware of poor quality of the parts put by VW on cars newer than Skoda Felicia. Too much plastic.

 

Touche re the diversity of comments.

 

And no I have no personal issues or problems at all but clearly I touched a nerve and, by your response and your argumentative and aggressive tone in many of your posts, you do.

 

There will be similar issues to those I mentioned in OE classic (Felicia / Favorit etc.) car parts so my points are still valid (I note you've chosen to go on a personal attack rather than address the points I made - shame)

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

 

unknown

 

The factory shock absorbers when you remove them what stamp they had on them?

I mean the name of the brand was visible?

20 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The factory shock absorbers when you remove them what stamp they had on them?

I mean the name of the brand was visible?

I dont recall they had a skoda sticker though