Okay, so... I've had my subwoofer in my boot for a while, but I've only been using it through an aux to rca adapter, playing every frequency through it. It sounds **** and I'd like to link it to the stock system. Its an external amp, and I was wondering if there was any way of daisy-chaning my amps rca input to one on the stock amp or system so they play the same thing at the same time. I've looked everywhere I can think of it all being and have found nothing but a fuse box and the cabin airfilter. Any help would be appreciated, thank you for reading.

 

Yes, the sub is on its side, its supposed to be facing up, yes, I know my wiring is dodgy, its fine

Fiirst of all you've posted this in the wrong section and secondly...

 

It looks like you're trying to achieve this on a shoestring budget and that's an impossibility with that head unit because there are no RCA outputs.

 

There are still ways to achieve it but in all honesty

 

1: The cost wouldn't justify the results you're after

2. Even if you were to fork out mega bucks, in all honesty, you'd be the last person on the planet who should wiring the system up.

 

I know I shouldn't go any further with this but I can't help myself.  What are those wires that come out between the speaker and the sub housing for?  Don't tell us that's the speaker wire.

 

Hi, welcome Abigal.

 

Sorry I've only just seen your post.

 

Looking at the Owner's Manual (as I always do and suggest all owners do no matter how long they have owned their vehicle) I take it by the 6 physical push buttons you have the Swing Infotainment system.  In the Owners Manual it has -

 

"Sound settings

The Infotainment system sound is set in the    menu.

The following settings are available in the menu:

. Equaliser

. Volume ratio

. Individual Infotainment functions volume

 - The volume can be adjusted in e.g. one of the following menu items:

 - Volume adjustment of voice commands

 - Maximum volume when the Infotainment system is switched on

 - Speed-dependent volume

 - Muting the Infotainment system with the Parking Aid switched on.

 

Depending on vehicle equipment, the following advanced sound settings are available:

. Space optimisation

. Audio profiles according to genre

. Subwoofer volume"

 

So I take it having never seen the system, that if you have it ,in the Swing it's a virtual subwoofer. to set the tone settings is via the equaliser.  (As a former home hi-fi nut, formerly with the tinnitus from it, I've never found a preprogramed tone/profile that wasn't tiring after a short time, but each to their own.)

 

What is it you want to achieve with your off-board external amp and real subwoofer, very loud booming and boomy bass or musical bass?

 

In the 1970s there where "wardrobe" speakers for the big bass sound of reggae, sometimes moved from house to house for parties, they were called "wardrobe" because of their size and output but you'd have to be high to listen to them as they sounded dreadful being totally inappropriate for their locations.

 

Edited 16 May, 20242 yr by nta16

On 06/05/2024 at 21:58, kodiaqsportline said:

It looks like you're trying to achieve this on a shoestring budget and that's an impossibility with that head unit because there are no RCA outputs.

 

There are still ways to achieve it but in all honesty

 

1: The cost wouldn't justify the results you're after

2. Even if you were to fork out mega bucks, in all honesty, you'd be the last person on the planet who should wiring the system up.

Excellent advice.

 

On 06/05/2024 at 14:09, AbigailFox said:

It sounds ****

On 06/05/2024 at 14:09, AbigailFox said:

Yes, the sub is on its side, its supposed to be facing up, yes, I know my wiring is dodgy, its fine

 

My advice is to go to an ICE specialist (not Halfords), see what they advise you your options are and how much the various options will cost, then pick the option that suits you.

You see quite a few posts on Vag boards trying to connect subwoofers and power amps to stand mib2. Unlike old car systems which had crossovers in the speakers or close to the speaker, the crossover is done electronically now so each speaker gets fed it's own frequency response by the mib2 unit. So if you plumb into that output its been tinkered with so the mid range output won't have the base frequency in it. Ditto the tweeter out.

 

The subwoofers driven from within the amp if enabled needs specific coding. Skodas may have the more flash power ampliers under the seat connected via coaxial / optical digital link... the ones where guts say I have a Canton etc.

 

So you see people wiring up external power amplifiers to the mid range output on projects and hoping for the best if they haven't bought the fancy system which was an option. Also these days the speakers are glued into the door. Old days you'd unscrew them. Cut the glue, replace and stick. Really car speaker projects of yesteryear is finished as they have become more designer to the car and the units built in infotainment system dont lend themselves to speaker upgrades as the output is already trimmed to specific speakers, the electronic crossover that you didnt have in the past. They were like home AV systems, now the infotainment system has elements of home surround sound processor in it but unlike those these feed each speaker whether tweeter, mid range or subwoofer and location. Home systems still have crossovers in a speaker enclosure. Some frequency processing goes on in those so the sub only gets sub.

 

Wardrobe speakers , yes Nottinghill carnival springs to mind. Put the speaker on the pavement 🤣. Anybody who drives around with thudding sub woofers needs to be hung quartered and whatever. You don't need it. Ditto mufflers.

Edited 21 May, 20242 yr by Tell

On 16/05/2024 at 22:51, nta16 said:

As a former home hi-fi nut, formerly with the tinnitus from it.

 

Mine came from a budget air flight which caused a collapsed ear drum... then old age. Channel whistle. Where you do need another noise to cover it up. I passed on the drugs which were prescribed. Psychotic, I Googled them. Pharmacist said take double. Yeah. Decided I didn't need to take psychotic drugs to cover up a whistling sound 🤣. So yes not my surround sound system in this case.

On 21/05/2024 at 19:28, Tell said:

You see quite a few posts on Vag boards trying to connect subwoofers and power amps to stand mib2. Unlike old car systems which had crossovers in the speakers or close to the speaker, the crossover is done electronically now so each speaker gets fed it's own frequency response by the mib2 unit. So if you plumb into that output its been tinkered with so the mid range output won't have the base frequency in it. Ditto the tweeter out.

 

The subwoofers driven from within the amp if enabled needs specific coding. Skodas may have the more flash power ampliers under the seat connected via coaxial / optical digital link... the ones where guts say I have a Canton etc.

 

So you see people wiring up external power amplifiers to the mid range output on projects and hoping for the best if they haven't bought the fancy system which was an option. Also these days the speakers are glued into the door. Old days you'd unscrew them. Cut the glue, replace and stick. Really car speaker projects of yesteryear is finished as they have become more designer to the car and the units built in infotainment system dont lend themselves to speaker upgrades as the output is already trimmed to specific speakers, the electronic crossover that you didnt have in the past. They were like home AV systems, now the infotainment system has elements of home surround sound processor in it but unlike those these feed each speaker whether tweeter, mid range or subwoofer and location. Home systems still have crossovers in a speaker enclosure. Some frequency processing goes on in those so the sub only gets sub.

 

Wardrobe speakers , yes Nottinghill carnival springs to mind. Put the speaker on the pavement 🤣. Anybody who drives around with thudding sub woofers needs to be hung quartered and whatever. You don't need it. Ditto mufflers.

Not all of the readers of this are trying to upgrade due to optioning a lower spec audio system in the first place.

My 2023 kodiaq RS did not have canton as an option due to chip shortage.   So no separate stock amplifier or spare tyre sub for me.   Just wasnt an option.   So i have regular columbus in my RS. That was the ONLY option.

The 2024 RS has canton standard, Grrrr.....

I guess you could say i could option up to fancy canton by buying the next model year,  but that is a $75000 option.

The only real sub $75000 option for me is

1. Recode odbc and enable virtual sub woofer. (this isnt enabled on my columbus)

2. Add amp to head unit (considering kicker key 200.4)

3. Add active sub- woofer. (Considering cerwin vega or helix)

I'm told that the Vag mothership controls all upgrading of Vag audio systems so you can't obd code different systems in. That's East Yorkshire Retrofit that says that and can code at the mothership level. It's that VAG have pinned down user upgrading via VCDS /OBD coding. That was true of mib2. Microcoding that goes into the chipset rather than setting flags in Obd. I was pulled up on that one once. Us Seat moderators get corrected. It is true you see the files used. It's a nitch area to retrofit mib audio systems varying from what was fitted. Miss builds you either reject the car or get a discount deal by holding out. I got 3 years free service after they misbuilt without a wireless charger.

 

 

Edited 23 June, 20241 yr by Tell