21 hours ago, Occy245 said:

Ignoring the stupid touch screens, etc, I think the safety features are brilliant. I’m thankful it’s now law to have front assist and I think many lives will be saved by it.

 

But there is a caveat. IMO, too many of these cars try to be too clever for their own good. Stuff like the TSR tech with ACC - I’ve found it absolutely dangerous, reading the 30mph Cobham services sign while I’m in the middle lane doing 70.
 

These cars aren’t Tesla’s, they aren’t smart enough and I think that’s the issue.

Even some Tesla users have been caught out in spectacular fashion while in autonomous mode. 

New 25 Kodiaq 7 seater

In 4 weeks of having car this sudden breaking system activated 4 times! This is an anti collision system as far as I'm aware....I was not in near collision 4 times!

2 in same place, small dip in the road (going thru a gate for work), apparently tech told me car sees the road when it dips forward and thinks I'm in a near collision.

Another and more serious time I was at the top of a junction, drove out, no car in front of me and activated for no reason, car behind me nearly rear ended me. Kids in car. V frightening experience. All cars behind beeped me out of it for apparently breaking sharply for no reason.

Got car towed, 3 weeks later Skoda still checking and saying nothing wrong with car

This has been said, but AEB issues are far from VAG unique. My work issued 2024 Courier has deployed anchors for no reason many times, and has fought with self between the anti collision steering and the lane departure assist.. which is why I take the 90seconds at the start of every (yup.. every… god.. damn… time...) journey to turn everything off except the blind spot indicators, they are handy..

2 hours ago, Eimear said:

New 25 Kodiaq 7 seater

In 4 weeks of having car this sudden breaking system activated 4 times! This is an anti collision system as far as I'm aware....I was not in near collision 4 times!

2 in same place, small dip in the road (going thru a gate for work), apparently tech told me car sees the road when it dips forward and thinks I'm in a near collision.

Another and more serious time I was at the top of a junction, drove out, no car in front of me and activated for no reason, car behind me nearly rear ended me. Kids in car. V frightening experience. All cars behind beeped me out of it for apparently breaking sharply for no reason.

Got car towed, 3 weeks later Skoda still checking and saying nothing wrong with car

Unfortunately you are not alone, a quick Google will reveal this is common place, and has been for a few years, it's how the system reacts to a 'false' front assist warning where the car registers something that isn't actually there, although newer cars seem to be more susceptible than older cars (my guess is the software has been update and is too sensitive for most people).

Uggh, I'm disgusted, my lovely new, not cheap car. Don't feel one bit comfortable driving, it's a v jarring frightening experience when it happens. Looks like I'll have to take it back, tech has advised to put dashcam on to prove if it happens again😤

21 minutes ago, Eimear said:

Uggh, I'm disgusted, my lovely new, not cheap car. Don't feel one bit comfortable driving, it's a v jarring frightening experience when it happens. Looks like I'll have to take it back, tech has advised to put dashcam on to prove if it happens again😤

You can take it back but the problem is the car will register no fault, so Skoda won't be able to fix something that doesn't register a fault, dashcam proof or not. P

Mine does it in one particular location, a fairly quiet 30mpm zone that has a slight bend in the road where residents park off the road on the near side, my thought is the front assist sees these cars just before it's realised we're about to go around a slight bend so brakes - I use the ACC a lot and I'm used to in now so turn off the ACC just before I get there and a few seconds later engage the ACC and all is fine again - until the next time.

Can you adjust the front assist sensitivity in your 2025MY https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/498811-front-assist-setting-sensitivity/

2 hours ago, Eimear said:

New 25 Kodiaq 7 seater

In 4 weeks of having car this sudden breaking system activated 4 times! This is an anti collision system as far as I'm aware....I was not in near collision 4 times!

2 in same place, small dip in the road (going thru a gate for work), apparently tech told me car sees the road when it dips forward and thinks I'm in a near collision.

Another and more serious time I was at the top of a junction, drove out, no car in front of me and activated for no reason, car behind me nearly rear ended me. Kids in car. V frightening experience. All cars behind beeped me out of it for apparently breaking sharply for no reason.

Got car towed, 3 weeks later Skoda still checking and saying nothing wrong with car

Also, Welcome to the forum from another Irish member 👋 in Tipp

"Driving Aids" are no substitute for poor driving. I already know of a neighbour who also owns a Kodiaq mk2 that was rear ended by a van when the emergency ABS braking kicked in at 60mph on an A-road to avoid an empty clear bin bag being blown in front of him by the wind (no need to brake hard at all!). It's ridiculous and downright dangerous. The van driver had a dashcam and in fact WON the claim! My neighbour had a front/rear dashcam and the van wasn't even that close, it either just takes longer for a heavy fully laden van to stop or the van driver was simply caught off guard for a nanosecond.

If my neighbour had his dog in the back, it would've been killed and if his kids were in the 3rd row, they could've been hurt or at least severely traumatised.

We should have the option to turn this highly dangerous "safety item" off, or at least reduce the sensitivity... PERMANENTLY.

Yes, I also have a Kodiaq mk2 and I've already seen lots of false positives on mine. Even going along my residential road at just 15mph and negotiating parked cars often triggers the warning. I turn it off now on every drive... if I remember.

I'm now beginning to regret my purchase, shame as the car is utter perfection otherwise.

If anybody knows of a class action lawsuit or a successful rejection of the car, please let me know. IMHO I can see this getting quite messy.

On 13/12/2024 at 11:35, OccyVRS said:

Perhaps a controversial opinion, but I think people now have far too much faith in their cars. They’ve never experienced a proper accident or felt the car lose control. Certainly, if they had, they wouldn’t drive the way they do on motorways. The amount of times I’ve seen someone in a crossover tearing down the outside lane at 80 when I’ve only got a few car lengths visibility due to the rain, is insane.

 

There should be something like a mandatory skid pan experience after you’ve passed your test.

39 minutes ago, Eimear said:

Uggh, I'm disgusted, my lovely new, not cheap car. Don't feel one bit comfortable driving, it's a v jarring frightening experience when it happens. Looks like I'll have to take it back, tech has advised to put dashcam on to prove if it happens again😤

I have a front/rear dashcam needed as it'll be good evidence for if (when?) I'm whacked up the arse when my emergency braking ABS decides to activtate for no apparent reason. As

4 minutes ago, BabyDog said:

"Driving Aids" are no substitute for poor driving. I already know of a neighbour who also owns a Kodiaq mk2 that was rear ended by a van when the emergency ABS braking kicked in at 60mph on an A-road to avoid an empty clear bin bag being blown in front of him by the wind (no need to brake hard at all!). It's ridiculous and downright dangerous. The van driver had a dashcam and in fact WON the claim! My neighbour had a front/rear dashcam and the van wasn't even that close, it either just takes longer for a heavy fully laden van to stop or the van driver was simply caught off guard for a nanosecond.

If my neighbour had his dog in the back, it would've been killed and if his kids were in the 3rd row, they could've been hurt or at least severely traumatised.

We should have the option to turn this highly dangerous "safety item" off, or at least reduce the sensitivity... PERMANENTLY.

Yes, I also have a Kodiaq mk2 and I've already seen lots of false positives on mine. Even going along my residential road at just 15mph and negotiating parked cars often triggers the warning. I turn it off now on every drive... if I remember.

I'm now beginning to regret my purchase, shame as the car is utter perfection otherwise.

If anybody knows of a class action lawsuit or a successful rejection of the car, please let me know. IMHO I can see this getting quite messy.

This is exactly what I'm in fear of! A plastic bag ffs. I've been driving a 25 qashqai rental whole my car in garage, apparently with same system for 3 weeks now and not once has it happened. I drive down big roads with large potholes for kids games, it could happen at any point on these roads. Skoda tell me that the computer on the car only detected one incident while I know it was 4. They r covering themselves

8 minutes ago, Eimear said:

This is exactly what I'm in fear of! A plastic bag ffs. I've been driving a 25 qashqai rental whole my car in garage, apparently with same system for 3 weeks now and not once has it happened. I drive down big roads with large potholes for kids games, it could happen at any point on these roads. Skoda tell me that the computer on the car only detected one incident while I know it was 4. They r covering themselves

VAG will struggle to cover themselves when (not if) somebody is killed by an involuntary emergency stop. I hate to think it's only a matter of time before the unthinkable happens to one of us. I'm one of those who believes that AI has no place in our lives and I'm not alone.

I will decide how I drive and respond, not some poorly programmed computer and sensors! Before I get shot down... I've driven over 250,000 miles without a single claim.

Diesel gate before, brakegate next?

In the UK you can report dangerous faults on new cars to the Driver & Vehicle Standards Agency, does NL have similar?

My neighbour who was rear-ended due to his AEB has done just that and they have asked Copart (main UK salvage company) for access to the vehicle to check ECU and diags. The good news so far is that he heard this morning that his 2 week old Kodiaq MK2 has just been written off. If evidence points to AEB causing this serious accident, the DVSA in the UK won't hesitate to kick up a stink with Skoda UK and demand immediate action. Of course, his replacement car will NOT be from VAG and I don't blame him.

On top of that my neighbour also needs his dangerous driving conviction (due to AEB) case dismissed, which is where his insurance legal team get involved.

Guys... Get legal cover with your insurance, it's worth every penny and really saved my arse about 15yrs ago (I avoided prison!) - long story, but there were two fatalities. As for a dashcam, I won't even drive a vehicle without one!

I have recently purchased a Mk 4 Skoda superb 4x4 L&K 2025. The auto braking is a real hazard. Like previous posts I have experienced too many unwanted auto braking episodes. I am 70 and the boy racer days have long since gone. There is no rhyme nor reason for these episodes. On two occasions (by far the worst), I have been parking or carrying out very slow speed manoeuvres when the brakes slammed on so hard, I actually thought id hit something. Where infact it was picking up a bollard, which incidentally was in my clear vision. The ferocity of the stop, could easily cause whiplash. I am not exaggerating. I am now having to cancel this function every time I drive, which leaves me being constantly reminded that I have disabled it. BTW I have had 4 predecessory models since 2012. None of these have presented symptoms so fierce.

Yes, exactly, its reversing that does it the most. It happens about 40% of the time for me, auto emergency stop for no reason whilst reversing.

11 hours ago, PDiddyScout said:

Yes, exactly, its reversing that does it the most. It happens about 40% of the time for me, auto emergency stop for no reason whilst reversing.

It's so sensitive that even a single dandelion caused mine to stop suddenly again when trying to park up the side of the house. Weird as I was going so slow that the dandelion would've survived unscathed!

I should get a court date soon so that I can get this dangerous potential death-trap rejected once and for all. Skoda have offered me a measly £32k for a fully-loaded, 4 month old 2.0 TSI Sportline with just 1,250 miles if they bought it back (RRP £53k, I paid £45k). An officer from the UK DVSA will also be attending court with me as they believe that I should push for a 100% refund plus some compensation, but I'd be happy with a £5k loss just to get rid of this junk.

When this nightmare is over, I will publish the result along with evidence (that I can't share now) here and on every Skoda forum.

All Skoda had to do was add the option to turn this crap off permanently, but no, thanks to pathetic EU rules.

To avoid a minor collision, a driver simply needs a brake pedal, steering wheel and eyeballs. Anything else, and they shouldn't be allowed on the road.

I've never hated a car or brand so much!

Having read the responses, at least I now know its not just me. But I must say that I have been realy pleased with my previous Skoda purchases. This time however, I am left wondering if I have made a big and expensive mistake. Please do keep us posted. Wouldn't it be great if they did a recall to fix this, clearly common, problem.

I ve got a new Kodiaq TDI 193, with ABT running box, raising power to 220 (declared, measured, but not cross checked), since late August....full list of extras and accessories except 3rd row of seats and head up display....so far 8.000 Kms...I have never faced such situations, as described above...maybe it s early, but so far I have faced just a few times red warning, just an alert to take action, never triggered by itself...I have faced though a couple of stops, in reverse mode, that were absolutely correct...2 times, there was someone sitting and talking behind the car, and once more, it happened during parking process, when there was a car behind me in close distance, while my speed, was just a bit higher for the situation....yes, in all those instances, brakes applied, but absolutely correctly, to my opinion...on the other hand I have faced , quite a few times, total driver aid systems collapsed, but I believe this was due to total sensors blockage by billions of mosquitos and other insects, that are plenty in Greek motorways this period...not quite sure if that was the reason, but it happened only after long motorway trips, and close to the end of them where windscreen, bumper, and front grille, could hardly been distinguished from such a mess, and after a good wash, things were back to normal...no malfunctions in city driving so far though, regarding any part of the car, including sensors....

Edited 21 November, 202521 Nov by aronisk

I mean ABT tuning box, not really running box 😔 

On 13/12/2024 at 20:34, GreenlineIIEstate said:

Very true, there is nothing you can do to prevent an accident. Hence, the Police now call them road traffic COLLISIONS.

I think it’s the exact opposite … they refer to them as collisions because there IS something you can do. The term accident implies it was ‘just one of those things’ when in reality there is invariably something that could have been done.

On 26/11/2025 at 12:56, BudgieUK said:

I think it’s the exact opposite … they refer to them as collisions because there IS something you can do. The term accident implies it was ‘just one of those things’ when in reality there is invariably something that could have been done.

That's what I said.

I should get a decision about rejecting my Sportline 2.0 TSI within 2 weeks. So far I've had another offer for a £7,500 loss, not good enough! I've also now had a response from BBC Watchdog in the UK. I'm confident that I'll be washing my hands of thia dangerous junk before Xmas.

My next car may have to be second-hand as I cannot find anything new without these dangerous autonomous add-ons. Any ideas? It has to be 4x4, non-hybrid full-fat petrol.

If this case is won on the basis that the car is dangerous will that result in a "No Drive" order for all current VAG models? And I guess a lot of other cars types with similar technolgy. Could be interesting!!

I should never have got rid of my 2018 skoda octavia scout 4x4, diesel.

6 hours ago, Cedwing said:

If this case is won on the basis that the car is dangerous will that result in a "No Drive" order for all current VAG models? And I guess a lot of other cars types with similar technolgy. Could be interesting!!

Not sure what a "win" would entail, but I've told my solicitor to accept a £5k loss, which I think is fair. If VAG could simply allow the driver to disable this crap permanently rather than per drive (most of us forget), I'd not be rejecting it. As it stands, my girlfriend won't even get in it now let alone drive it, I don't blame her. Whatever happens, I think any settlement will be out-of-court as to not damage VAG's already poor rep.

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@BabyDog Re your comment on the DVSA and not hesitating, kicking up a stink etc. Well that must be something very recent because they have spent years ignoring Drivers / Owners conserns like the Loss of Drive with DQ200 DSG,s that VW Group said would do a voluntary recall while outwith the EU / UK there was a global recall. Any court decision in England / Wales or in Scotland might well set a president. In Scotland in the past & in England / Wales VW Group would not go to court they settled out of court and had NDA,s signed. They were not prepared to put employees into court as a defence witness, and also have to reveal statistics on failure rates, warranty claims, settlements etc.