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Hey,

I need to get new brake pads for my 2018 Skoda Superb.

When i give my car to the garage to purchase and fit pads I'm sure they are very basic quality.

Am i able to purchase my own better quality brake pads and what does everyone recommend?

Plenty of options over and above the standard ones, although what is your specific concern?

If the brakes don't create enough stopping power, then if you can get the ABS to kick in on a dry road, then the brakes work enough, as the tyres are losing traction.

If its a case of fading under heavy braking, then pads can solve some of it, but you may also want to change your brake fluid and/or change the flexible brake pipes for braided versions. It may also be worth to replace the discs for cross-drilled and/or grooved version which will also aid colling for repeated heavier braking.

For pads, look at Pagid, Ferodo, VBT (VagBremTechnik) for their products.

For discs, look at the above, brands and also MTech also do versions which they add a coating to so the non-contact parts stay black rather than rusting to orange.

ATE make ceramic pads which are lower dust so the wheels look cleaner for longer.

Is your model a FWD or AWD car?

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31 minutes ago, travs said:

Plenty of options over and above the standard ones, although what is your specific concern?

If the brakes don't create enough stopping power, then if you can get the ABS to kick in on a dry road, then the brakes work enough, as the tyres are losing traction.

If its a case of fading under heavy braking, then pads can solve some of it, but you may also want to change your brake fluid and/or change the flexible brake pipes for braided versions. It may also be worth to replace the discs for cross-drilled and/or grooved version which will also aid colling for repeated heavier braking.

For pads, look at Pagid, Ferodo, VBT (VagBremTechnik) for their products.

For discs, look at the above, brands and also MTech also do versions which they add a coating to so the non-contact parts stay black rather than rusting to orange.

ATE make ceramic pads which are lower dust so the wheels look cleaner for longer.

Is your model a FWD or AWD car?

Thanks. I will look into your suggestions.

I am looking for quality for longer lasting pads. I sometimes stick it in sports mode for a country lane so looking for good performance as well.

AWD model.

AWD models have 340mm brake discs front, and 310mm rear discs. (FWD have 312mm front and 300mm rear so anything that says that is to be ignored).

For example, have just looked on the Ferodo website and filtering for AWD models gives disc sizes of 300mm and, mindbogglingly, 172.5mm whatever that's for!

The beauty is that you can put in for VW Golf Mk7 R and you'll get the right parts, and the Audi S3 8V.

I’m happy with ATE ceramics, just make sure you fit them the correct way (goes for most pads these days, they’ll be a small arrow or crescent moon shape)

But I’ve not actually put the ceramics on my car, only my wifes Fiat 500, but a friend of mine has them on his beemer, drives like a loon and still clean wheels and excellent braking.

It’s what I’ll be fitting on mine when needed

Edited by Danoid

11 hours ago, travs said:

AWD models have 340mm brake discs front, and 310mm rear discs. (FWD have 312mm front and 300mm rear so anything that says that is to be ignored).

in addition to the above.

despite the different rear brake disc/rotor size, both AWD and FWD use the same rear brake pads.

AWD requires different front brake pads to that used by the FWD.

i've got DBA discs and rotors in my FWD. stopping power is same as OEM, i.e. good. best thing though is virtually no brake dust!!

i could go 2-3 months without having to clean the little brake dust that does build up eventually.

14 hours ago, travs said:

AWD models have 340mm brake discs front, and 310mm rear discs. (FWD have 312mm front and 300mm rear so anything that says that is to be ignored).

What.

No, no, no, no. 340mm front and 310 VENTED rears are for the 280ps petrol model exclusively. I already bought the wrong discs once and i have a 190ps diesel awd. What fit correctly was 312mm vented fronts and 300mm solid rear discs. As far as i know, nothing but the 280ps petrol with twin real exhausts get the uprated brakes

1 hour ago, Athrx said:

What.

No, no, no, no. 340mm front and 310 VENTED rears are for the 280ps petrol model exclusively. I already bought the wrong discs once and i have a 190ps diesel awd. What fit correctly was 312mm vented fronts and 300mm solid rear discs. As far as i know, nothing but the 280ps petrol with twin real exhausts get the uprated brakes

Chillout.

Edited by travs
Spelling lol

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This is helpful.

My Skoda is the 280 petrol so if i get Mk7 Golf R brakes will they be the right parts?

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57 minutes ago, Carst-2018SKODASuperb said:

This is helpful.

My Skoda is the 280 petrol so if i get Mk7 Golf R brakes will they be the right parts?

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I'd say so, as along as its specific to Golf R. (Eg if you look through ECP - you only get as close as VW, Golf, 2.0, petrol. And that covers the GTI which will have the wrong sizes included).

The Superb is far too ambiguous seemingly and incorrect offering. I've checked ECP with your number plate and they pickup the make and model and nothing else. Select the specific engine and it makes no difference either.

Discs are:

Front: 340mm diameter x 30mm thick vented (pretty sure there isn't a solid offering anyway)

Rear: 310mm diameter x 22mm thick vented (not sure if there is a 310mm solid but you want vented)

Pads will be (and there is some artistic licence with some measurements):

Front: 175mm length x 70mm height x 20mm thick (make sure there is a wear indicator either integrated or in the box)

Rear: 123mm length x 60mm height x 15mm thick (no wear indicator)

Pads you will often see the disc size they are mated up with and the disc size is definitive.

Edited by travs

These are the exact ATE Ceramics I bought from Autodoc.

Front: Autodoc ATE Ceramic Front pads

Rear: Autodoc ATE Ceramic Rear pads

Thought that would help confirm the sizes as these items fit a 280 standard sized brake setup. The fronts came with a separate wear indicator cable.

+1 for ATE Ceramic brake pads - I use them from 5 years on Audi A4, Octavia 3 and am about to use it on current Superb 3 when needed.

I think ATE recommended ceramic pads with solid non-vented discs. I've always used them with solid discs/rotos.

I'm not sure from where I got that impression because their site doesn't make this very clear https://www.ate-brakes.com/products/disc-brakes/ate-ceramic-brake-pads/

Edited by fr1nklyn

1 hour ago, fr1nklyn said:

+1 for ATE Ceramic brake pads - I use them from 5 years on Audi A4, Octavia 3 and am about to use it on current Superb 3 when needed.

I think ATE recommended ceramic pads with solid non-vented discs. I've always used them with solid discs/rotos.

I'm not sure from where I got that impression because their site doesn't make this very clear https://www.ate-brakes.com/products/disc-brakes/ate-ceramic-brake-pads/

It says for normal smooth discs, ie non drilled/grooves but only for maximum comfort

  • 2 months later...

I DO NOT recommend the ATE Ceramic front pads. They've eaten away at the discs in just 20,000 km, and they vibrate a lot when braking. Furthermore, the pads have barely worn down over those 20,000 km, so all they do is not stain the rim. I'm going to switch to OEM.

Edited by Gabrielem

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