As a new owner so far I am finding the infotainment system a complete mystery and I think calling up Laura too many times makes her sound very short and she refuses to recognise navigation destinations

Hi, welcome.

You want the 'Škoda Kamiq' section of the site for information and real world advice from owners and others, I'll 'Report' your post to a Moderator (using the drop down menu from the three-dots at the top right of posts) and ask if this post can be moved to that section.

Perhaps a change of thread title is now needed to something like 'help with infotainment and navigation systems please' or if that's not possible a new thread with a similar title.

HTH.

Laura is only as good as the map data when it comes to navigation.

I saw a speed limit of 80 mph for normal 60 mph road on a Tw*tNav last Saturday, bit mischievous for a programer but perhaps these are done by Artificial (yes) Intelligence (no!) having a brain-fart / "hallucination" / plain wrong. I'm sure some Tw*tNaive decuples might believe it like they used to when driving into rivers. :rollseyes: 😄

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The camera probably picked up and displayed the speed limit displayed (like a road sign) on the rear of an HGV, rather than a wrong limit Satnav memory.

1 hour ago, JB25 said:

The camera probably picked up and displayed the speed limit displayed (like a road sign) on the rear of an HGV, rather than a wrong limit Satnav memory.

Unfortunately not, there wasn't any lorries in front and I was told the 80 mph was a regular thing on that stretch of road. We left a 5 mph area on to 30 mph roads and it took a good while for the Tw*tNav (and/or other systems) to realise this, luckily at this point in time the driver can still ignore the stupid thing if not the reminder bleeps for going faster than its programs think you should be. We're just test mules for these systems.

I used to drive my neighbour's car on a regular route and that system didn't see the NSL (national speed limit) sign(s) at one point of the route when leaving a 30 mph section so would flash as I went faster than the 30 mph it dictated, no bleeps on that so easier to ignore.

There is one local spot where my Kamiq fails to pick up a change in limit. That is where there is a sharpish left turn on to the motorway slip (leaving the 40mph limit) where the national limit sign is set back and the excess speed warning beeps start as I accelerate down the slip road. Then further down the slip road, the GPS realises where I am and the 70mph limit appears and all goes quiet again!

The camera and GPS systems are not infallible and can get confused by badly placed signage, by signage on adjacent parallel roads etc. The GPS based info that is inbuilt in the Satnav can display the wrong data if limits have been changed limits if the signage is not visible to the camera which will override the GPS data.

10 minutes ago, JB25 said:

The camera and GPS systems are not infallible

Yes and that is the problem, same for all the other driver "aids" and "assists" on the vehicles now. I know humans are very far from infallible and these systems may sometimes help but I do wonder about more modern drivers that fully rely on them and those that believe computers without question, mental passengers behind the driver controls.

As I put I've known some of these systems for decades and have seen improvements but they now seem in a period of a sort of regress in reliability.

If you want to be absolutely sure of the speed limit just use your eyes and pay attention - rather than complaining about the shortcomings of traffic sign recognition systems and satnav.

You can also solve it by turning speed warning beeps off.

12 hours ago, marineboy said:

If you want to be absolutely sure of the speed limit just use your eyes and pay attention - rather than complaining about the shortcomings of traffic sign recognition systems and satnav.

You're preaching to the converted, I don't use Tw*tNavs.

These type of things are what I use for route planning (old photo).

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1 hour ago, nta16 said:

You're preaching to the converted, I don't use Tw*tNavs.

These type of things are what I use for route planning (old photo).

7 yo beer guide, crikey half the pubs will be long gone by now

1 hour ago, johnnie47 said:

7 yo beer guide, crikey half the pubs will be long gone by now

Some will be gone certainly but hopefully not half as it's an ale guide rather than just pubs, a few pubs have been in the guides since we started in 1979 but yes sadly some have gone, some reopen and for years now micro-pubs have been opening, not all servingbest ale quality but at least serving. My wife has the 2026 guide, I 'don't get out much now', the 2027 guide will be out in September.

About 20+ years ago I was in a car with two others that each had their own handheld type Tw*tNavs of the time in the countryside miles from home going to a business meeting stopped at a crossroads with those two arguing that their Tw*tNav, opposing, direction would be correct, I opened the CAMRA Good Beer Guide I had with me turned to the county we were in in looked at the quarter-page county map and gave the deciding direction based on the fact there was guide entry in a village on the signpost.

In those days you had to wait for 3?, 5? of the 5 satilites shown on the devices to communicate before the Tw*tNav could work and that could take many minutes or loose and have to start again, particularly when we went to that-there-Lundun.

I'm not a Luddite just old enough to have seen the progression and regression, my neighbour had a GPS device many decades back, mate had a 'mobile' phone in the mid to late 1980s, I was learning about computers (punch cards and paper tape) in the late 1970s. The promises were great the realities not alsways so.

I'm old [67] and find Satnavs an absolute god send!

There are limitations on how accurate a satnav is, as has been said. Some of this is down to the technology and some down to its failure to be properly updated. My worry is not where we are but what happens in the fuure. Self driving cars which drive at the speed limit rather than a comfortable speed (I will not drive my car with ACC engaged at it drves at the speed limit and goes far too fast round bends, and has anyone else seen the Tesla drive into a freight train in America) and so many vehicles here that claim to be limited to the local limit, but are actually limited to what the system thinks the limit is. It could be really frustrating and potentially dangerous for a vehicle which is limited in a 20 limit if it passes into a 60 limit without responding correctly.

Tw*tNavs have there place and are useful if you know know where you are going on part of the route but like all computer stuff to blindly without thinking follow them is how people end up at a wrong place or in trouble enroute.

If you don't know where you are going and you have put in the correct destination and the Tw*tNav is up to date and programed correctly then it will get you there, whether that was the best or shortest or quickest route is another matter.

Tying the road speed limits into the Tw*tNav is like doubling the potential for speed limit errors.

System like the Automated(?) Cruise Control are on the cars to be tested out widely in the real world for future use, like with previous British cars, particularly low volume producers, the customers/end-users are finishing the product developement.

Only yesterday my neighbour was saying how the didn't like the ACC on his car (Honda Civic) as accelorators to the changed speed limit quickly. Personally I onced used regular cruise control in the 1980s and didn't like it so have never used it since. A couple of decades or so back a mate showed me the speed limiter on his BMW and I thought that was a good idea but it's on my wife's Fabia and other than testing it works when she first got the Fabia I've never used it since, useful though it might be. If I'm driving the car I like to drive the car not be a passenger behind the steering wheel, I am fully responsible for my actions as potentially I could kill people or animals.

To those that like all the systems on modern cars, great, good for you but don't switch your brains and senses off and totally rely on these systems.

My "stand alone" TomTom seems to get worse after each map update - maybe there is method to their madness, it used to be very trustworthy, now my wife tends to keep the 2009 AA atlas open, and yes, it needs replacing but its age does not stop it being used to drive round TomTom's routing - I've used "ECO", "SHORTEST" and "QUICKEST" and still get duff routing, okay road traffic incidents will cause it to re-route away from the obvious route, but mad routing just doesn't seem right. Used it last week going to and coming home from Yorkshire, yes a few "minor" diversions but really, what a pain - from something that used to be completely trustworthy.

First experience of using a Sat Nav 'shortest route' found me driving through a Greater Manchester Bus Station, but it makes you wonder how we managed, and did it easily, to get anywhere using a Road Map and sign posts back in the 60's, maybe traffic was lighter and we took our time, enjoying the journey

Yesterday we had to go to a place in Leicester and before leaving I clicked on the place's weebsite'sto get directions to get locate the builds' entry and exit as it was in the city centre and on a one-way part of an inner ring road. Directions were via Google Maps, which many seem to favour, what a laugh. As always it wanted to take us on the motorway, M1, a bit of a pain to get to from our side of Northampton, or for some strange reason take us via Kettering(!?) which takes you out of the way.

Neither route is the usual sensible route a driver that knows how to get from our part of town to Liecester city centre (A5199, or A50 as was decades back) even according to Google Maps the sensible route only takes 6 minutes more than going out of the way to get onto a motorway rather than more pleasant straightforward country road.

We never need worry about the Yanks invading us as they'd be lost once here. :shakeshead: 😄

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