How quick IS the Fabia VRS?

[bengie]

:iagree:

according to some they are scooby slayers and whoop civic type R's etc which i very very much doubt as i have had races with both of the above and lost or been even and have had a race with a few fabia vRS's and have never lost

[Neily03]

:iagree:

according to some they are scooby slayers and whoop civic type R's etc which i very very much doubt as i have had races with both of the above and lost or been even and have had a race with a few fabia vRS's and have never lost

I currently have a civic type r and despite what people on here say about it having 'no torque' its faster than a fabia vrs. I'm downgrading to the fabia as i need something cheaper to run with a warrenty and not have any finance to pay as i'm saving for a house with the gf.

[andypandypoos]

Well they have 123bhp and weight alot less. Depends on how you understand "a bit" to be?

A "bit of cake" to a fatty is half a cake' date='..... yes?

a "bit of cake" to a scrawny girl is a crumb!

now you see;)

you see a bit is actually alot! so yes it was impressive and my mates were stunned! (all on private roads and in safe conditions)[/quote']

was it a mk1 or a mk2 focus? mk2 focus ghia weights about 1326kg. so it's probably the same weight, with less power and less torque. plus, it's a ghia - pretty much the softest, comfiest focus aimed at the "older" driver.

still unimpressed :thumbdwn:

[Quetz VRS]

I made a post a little while ago from a test track test of the Fabia VRS have a look here: -

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/fabia/furby-vrs-recent-mag-review/59249/

The times they got were: -

00-60 - 9.0 secs

30-70 - 8.9 secs

30-50 in 3rd - 3.5 secs

40-60 in 4th - 4.8 secs

50-70 in 5th - 6.3 secs

6th - 8.2 secs

Hope this helps, but look through the above post for more info from the great members of this community

Q

[HellFire]

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It's a mediocre hot hatch, Saxo VTS speed at a push, but with worse handling. Cars in a similar price range - Ibiza Cupra, Clio 172/182 are a fair bit nippier

But yes, it's quick for what it is, and the torque makes it feel very powerful, but I learnt the hard way against my Dad's Audi A4 Avant 3.0 TDi Quattro the other day with 230 bhp (standard, approx power iirc), it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Chris.

[BigW]

Slower than a Mk1 Golf

[Quetz VRS]

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It's a mediocre hot hatch' date=' Saxo VTS speed at a push, but with worse handling. Cars in a similar price range - Ibiza Cupra, Clio 172/182 are a fair bit nippier

But yes, it's quick for what it is, and the torque makes it feel very powerful, but I learnt the hard way against my Dad's Audi A4 Avant 3.0 TDi Quattro the other day with 230 bhp (standard, approx power iirc), it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Chris.[/quote']

Yes there are faster Hot Hatches out there, but show me a faster Hothatch (Which will most likely be petrol) that has the ability to return a genuine 40 to 50 mpg !!! I would think you would struggle there.

In the long run, prople buy a Furby VRS to save money at the forecourt yet have a little fun at the same time. Essentially that is why I will buy one in the next year or so, when I have got the cash to go and buy one.

As with your race with your dad, there could have been many factors in that to have made you loose, his 3.0 V6 TDi maybe able to deliver power at a far more efficent way then a Straight 4 1.9 TDi remapped or not..... I feel that this was a given that your dad would win.... just a thought, may be wrong, as I am no expert in the mechanic's of car's and racing. Or he may have driven it harder then you drove your furby.... does happen.

Q

[TaviaRS]

Ibiza Cupra TDI?

Oh and to answer the original question, nearly as quick as my SDI

[r32]

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It's a mediocre hot hatch' date=' Saxo VTS speed at a push, but with worse handling. Cars in a similar price range - Ibiza Cupra, Clio 172/182 are a fair bit nippier [/quote']

errrmm none of those cars compare to a vRS.. none are diesel, all have higher insurance groups and will have much higher running costs. :confused:

But yes' date=' it's quick for what it is, and the torque makes it feel very powerful, but I learnt the hard way against my Dad's Audi A4 Avant 3.0 TDi Quattro the other day with 230 bhp (standard, approx power iirc), it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Chris.[/quote']

Most people won't be buying a vRS for its outright speed. Its a combination of running costs and performance which I'm buying one for. Personally, I see the other cars you have listed as stereotypical 'boy racer' cars, which I don't think the vRS has the reputation of, which is another reason I chose it.

[Neily03]

Most people won't be buying a vRS for its outright speed. Its a combination of running costs and performance which I'm buying one for. Personally' date=' I see the other cars you have listed as stereotypical 'boy racer' cars, which I don't think the vRS has the reputation of, which is another reason I chose it. [/quote']

Me too, i need something cheap thats not slow.

[SteVRs]

I drive loads of different cars ranging from sports cars, hatches, luxobrages etc and I'm always glad to get back in the Furby afterwards.

That's why I bought it - if feels right for my driving style (lazy) and goes well if I want to.

[chris_newell41]

was it a mk1 or a mk2 focus? mk2 focus ghia weights about 1326kg. so it's probably the same weight' date=' with less power and less torque. plus, it's a ghia - pretty much the softest, comfiest focus aimed at the "older" driver.

still unimpressed :thumbdwn:[/quote']

Have ever driven a ford focus mk 2 Ghia before?

maybe you have high expectations of a Fab VRS? I don't so was impressed.

I know the Fab VRS is no hot hatch but it's still quick enough. I could have had any of the best hot hatches but I didn't as I could not bear losing so much money in a car that I would be looked at by people and they think "boy racer".

plus my wallet is a hell of a lot heavier driving the Furby, Plus all the torque can carry it !

For a Value Warmish Hatch it still is up their with the rest of the better bunch!

p.s. Hell fire: why did you race your dad in his A4 quattro 3.0 tdi? you were always going to lose, even more powerful , more exotic cars would have stiff competiton.

[andypandypoos]

I guess I do have high expectations of a Fabia vRS then, but that's mostly down to what the actual owners say about them...I haven't driven a mk2 Ghia, but I did drive a mk2 Zetec regularly and I own a 1.8 mk1 Zetec which isn't exactly quick (fun, but not quick). I suppose I'd assumed that since it had the vRS badge, there would be a more pronunced performance advantage over a Focus Ghia

As a remapped Octy 1.8T is apparently quicker in gear than a Fabia vRS with a tuning box, the only real advantage is the mpg. With the current fuel prices this is most certainly not to be sniffed at

[chris_newell41]

I suppose I'd assumed that since it had the vRS badge' date=' there would be a more pronunced performance advantage over a focus Ghia

[/quote']

but the performiance advantage is far more pronounced than a focus 1.8. I don't want to play into the hands of the people who say " he wasn't trying" or "obviosuly he had a blocked filter" so had to play it down to "slightly better".

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter as the Fab VRS has alot more cards to play than any normal hot hatch.

My FAB VRS blew away the focus 1.8 16v ghia..... is this better?

[andypandypoos]

it's more like i'd expect it to be, yeah. but the fact that you "played it down" in the first place means that i'm now doubtful

bearing in mind that it's coming onto the boy racer radar, other than the MPG, what does the Fabia vRS have to offer over a "normal" hot hatch?

[Duck_Pond]

Great coloured seats

[matchmaker]

it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Chris.

New use for a Fabia - cleaning the kitchen floor :D:D:D:D:D

[Micky 32]

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It's a mediocre hot hatch' date=' Saxo VTS speed at a push, but with worse handling. Cars in a similar price range - Ibiza Cupra, Clio 172/182 are a fair bit nippier

But yes, it's quick for what it is, and the torque makes it feel very powerful, but I learnt the hard way against my Dad's Audi A4 Avant 3.0 TDi Quattro the other day with 230 bhp (standard, approx power iirc), it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Chris.[/quote']

Like to know where all the 190bhp figures are coming from, a remapped PD 130 in reality will be producing 165-170bhp. Remapped PD150 are producing on average in reality 185bhp and to get 200+ you need a hybrid turbo.

[chris_newell41]

it's more like i'd expect it to be' date=' yeah. but the fact that you "played it down" in the first place means that i'm now doubtful

bearing in mind that it's coming onto the boy racer radar, other than the MPG, what does the Fabia vRS have to offer over a "normal" hot hatch?[/quote']

High Build Quality

Low Depreciation

Low Insurance

Comfort

Low Tax

Underated - mix with the crowd

Low risk - no one wants to steal a skoda!

Value for Money

4 doors!

IMO these are what drove me to buying one (see what i did:P ) and so are many others. I don't see any other hot/warm hatches doing the same! (you can't say Seat Ibiza has good quality or low depreciation surely?) It fitted the Bill for me!

[JUT]

Not sure the "low insurance" bit really counts anymore.

It's too popular now and mods make the insurance stupid.

Mine would cost me around

[HellFire]

Yes there are faster Hot Hatches out there' date=' but show me a faster Hothatch (Which will most likely be petrol) that has the ability to return a genuine 40 to 50 mpg !!! I would think you would struggle there.

In the long run, prople buy a Furby VRS to save money at the forecourt yet have a little fun at the same time. Essentially that is why I will buy one in the next year or so, when I have got the cash to go and buy one.

As with your race with your dad, there could have been many factors in that to have made you loose, his 3.0 V6 TDi maybe able to deliver power at a far more efficent way then a Straight 4 1.9 TDi remapped or not..... I feel that this was a given that your dad would win.... just a thought, may be wrong, as I am no expert in the mechanic's of car's and racing. Or he may have driven it harder then you drove your furby.... does happen.

Q[/quote']

But the question title is how fast, not how economical. And no, my car is nowhere near as quick as my Fathers Audi, but i'd expect that.

Ibiza Cupra TDI?

True

errrmm none of those cars compare to a vRS.. none are diesel' date=' all have higher insurance groups and will have much higher running costs. :confused:

Most people won't be buying a vRS for its outright speed. Its a combination of running costs and performance which I'm buying one for. Personally, I see the other cars you have listed as stereotypical 'boy racer' cars, which I don't think the vRS has the reputation of, which is another reason I chose it. [/quote']

Again, refer to the post title, and in the context of performance, the Fabia cannot match others for outright performance in it's class. You are right about the Boyracer image though

p.s. Hell fire: why did you race your dad in his A4 quattro 3.0 tdi? you were always going to lose' date=' even more powerful , more exotic cars would have stiff competiton.[/quote']

I know :P

Like to know where all the 190bhp figures are coming from, a remapped PD 130 in reality will be producing 165-170bhp. Remapped PD150 are producing on average in reality 185bhp and to get 200+ you need a hybrid turbo.

Read my post, infact i'll save you the trouble:

it quite literally wiped the floor with my supposid "190 bhp Fabia".

Indicating that I am well aware my car doesn't produce the 190 bhp it is supposed to. In reality you are correct' date=' it's more like 165-175bhp

High Build Quality

Low Depreciation

Low Insurance

Comfort

Low Tax

Underated - mix with the crowd

Low risk - no one wants to steal a skoda!

Value for Money

4 doors!

IMO these are what drove me to buying one (see what i did:P ) and so are many others. I don't see any other hot/warm hatches doing the same! (you can't say Seat Ibiza has good quality or low depreciation surely?) It fitted the Bill for me!

Again; see the post title. But on a note of insurance, once all mods are declared how much are you actually saving??

Fuel economy? when driven hard mine returns 20 mpg!!

I know I could get a standard Octavia vRS MKII for the same cost per year as my modified Fabia as I have to go with a specialist insurer.

If we are changing the post to which cars cross all the I's and tick all the T's then your comments above are exactly why I bought my Fabia, except I always thought the vRS was a 5 door hatch, not a 4 door saloon

Chris.

[ScoobyChris]

High Build Quality

I would argue that having door seals which leak, cheap seat covers which fray/mark, rattly dashboard and glove box lid and a fuel filler cap which regularly "pings off" and will not shut are not the signs of a car with high build quality Each to their own though!

Chris

[chris_newell41]

I would argue that having door seals which leak' date=' cheap seat covers which fray/mark, rattly dashboard and glove box lid and a fuel filler cap which regularly "pings off" and will not shut are not the signs of a car with high build quality Each to their own though!

Chris[/quote']

But I don't have theses problems?

I know many mercedes and BMW drivers that have far more issues than me in my Skoda. it's quality build quality using value materials which to me is a good thing.

Yes this thread is slightly off track now but don't threads always do that?

[robmawer]

But I don't have theses problems?

If nothing else this shows the build quality is pretty inconsistent - which is generally not a good thing!

Rob.

[chris_newell41]

If nothing else this shows the build quality is pretty inconsistent - which is generally not a good thing!

Rob.

So this goes for Mercedes and BMW too?

all cars have have minor issues you know that, surely?

Look I paid a minute amount of money for alot of car, can't fault it and yes to me It's fast!

struth!