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Fabia has failed its MOT

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TBH, I'm not surprised as I knew my rear left tyre was on the limit in terms of tread. I wanted to try and squeeze it through before it expires on Saturday now I've remembered I'm on a training course tomorrow and Friday....

Anyway, it'll be getting a service done as soon as, and some of the issues will be fixed / looked at.

However, here's the list, and there are one or two I wasn't expecting.

1 - Nearside front (inside rim) road wheel cracked [4.2.1a] :eek:

2 - Nearside front (rear wishbone mount) bonded suspension deteriorated and cannot function as intended [2.4.F.3]

3 - Offside (rear wishbone mounting) bonded suspernsion deteriorated and cannot function as intended [2.4.F.3]

4 - Nearside rear tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach thy ply or cords [4.1.C.1a]

5 - Nearside rear tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm [4.1.D.1]

6 - Parking brake efficiency below requirements [3.7.A.9/10]

7 - Front wheels brakes imbalanced [3.7.A.2e]

regarding 1 - :eek: I'll have a look and it wouldn't surprise me if that's since this morning, a range rover driver pushed me off the road into a terrible ditch :finger: (what is it with RR drivers at the moment? :( ) So looks like I need a new alloy.

2 and 3 I suspected as I'm pretty sure I need new bushes as it's a bit clonky on bumps and bends.

4 and 5 will be sorted with new rear tyres

6 - I know why this is. the pads are fine, the discs are fine, but the "T" junction behind the handbrake with the 10mm nut for adjusting is not perpendicular, it's heavily slanted, suggesting that one side is a lot more worn than the other. However, the pads are in identical condition. Is there any adjustment on the cable? I'm a bit :confused: by this.

regarding 7, I'm a bit surprised. I changed the front pads a few days ago and have covered 100 miles or so since and the brakes seem to be pretty effective now. I understood the system to be self regulating. Could it just be that they need to bed in more? The front brake imbalance is apparently 44% which seems a lot.

On the brake test summary, I have:

		    Front Axle		            Rear Axle
		Lh	Rh	Limit		Lh	Rh	Limit
Measured weight (kgf)  423	456	---		243	296	---
Drag (kgf)		13	19	---		9	15	---
Brake forces (kgf)     413	443	---		226	294	---
Brake difference (%)	    44		<25		    10

Could these be due to tracking being a bit out (tracking was noted as an advisory)?

So, comments?

Cheers. :thumbup:

Xav - I have a slightly kerbed but reasonable condition TT comp wheel if you want it. :) Get hold of me on MSN later this evening. :cool:

Hmmm

my car is having its MOT done as we speak... and i think my car gets a little bit more abuse than yours does so will be interesting to see how fooked it is :rofl:

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Xav - I have a slightly kerbed but reasonable condition TT comp wheel if you want it. :) Get hold of me on MSN later this evening. :cool:

Will do. Cheers :thumbup:

Hmmm

my car is having its MOT done as we speak... and i think my car gets a little bit more abuse than yours does so will be interesting to see how fooked it is :rofl:

:rofl::D You've cheered me up a bit LOL

Doesnt sounds like fun :(

:rofl::D You've cheered me up a bit LOL

Yeah but as we already know... (especially shifty LOL) ive been quite fortunate as to the reliability of the car in all its 98k miles.... only problems were fmic boost pipe, and a dodgy MAP sensor. i might not bother crossing my fingers ;) - although i did change a sidelight bulb that bit the dust on the CZ trip.. but that hardly constitutes a catastrophic failure..

I wouldn't have thought brake imbalance would be caused by wheel balance, no, especially as it appears to be out of balance on both front and rear axles (although obviously only enough to fail on the front). It sounds more like a hydraulic fault to me - possibly dodgy master cylinder, or brake bias regulator (think that's the right term).

Hope you get it sorted alright,

I wouldn't have thought brake imbalance would be caused by wheel balance, no, especially as it appears to be out of balance on both front and rear axles (although obviously only enough to fail on the front). It sounds more like a hydraulic fault to me - possibly dodgy master cylinder, or brake bias regulator (think that's the right term).

or a sticking piston/air bubbles in one of the callipers... Xav has Brembos

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Hmm. If it's a hydraulic kind of problem, I wonder if anything is logged in the ECU. I should be receiving my shiny new proper USB-HEX+CAN cable tomorrow so will plug in and see what it says.

If it is though, sounds expensive.....

Although I still fail to see how they manage to get a ratio of 44% with those numbers :confused:

Looks like i spoke too soon :o

Awww who am i kidding... of course it PASSED!

a testiment to the reliability and durability of the car :rofl:

And I thought my car was getting on a bit :rofl:

Hope you get it all sorted.

Awww who am i kidding... of course it PASSED!

Now sell it with 12months MOT :thumbup:

TBH, I'm not surprised as I knew my rear left tyre was on the limit in terms of tread. I wanted to try and squeeze it through before it expires on Saturday now I've remembered I'm on a training course tomorrow and Friday....

Anyway, it'll be getting a service done as soon as, and some of the issues will be fixed / looked at.

However, here's the list, and there are one or two I wasn't expecting.

1 - Nearside front (inside rim) road wheel cracked [4.2.1a] :eek:

2 - Nearside front (rear wishbone mount) bonded suspension deteriorated and cannot function as intended [2.4.F.3]

3 - Offside (rear wishbone mounting) bonded suspernsion deteriorated and cannot function as intended [2.4.F.3]

4 - Nearside rear tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach thy ply or cords [4.1.C.1a]

5 - Nearside rear tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm [4.1.D.1]

6 - Parking brake efficiency below requirements [3.7.A.9/10]

7 - Front wheels brakes imbalanced [3.7.A.2e]

regarding 1 - :eek: I'll have a look and it wouldn't surprise me if that's since this morning, a range rover driver pushed me off the road into a terrible ditch :finger: (what is it with RR drivers at the moment? :( ) So looks like I need a new alloy.

2 and 3 I suspected as I'm pretty sure I need new bushes as it's a bit clonky on bumps and bends.

4 and 5 will be sorted with new rear tyres

6 - I know why this is. the pads are fine, the discs are fine, but the "T" junction behind the handbrake with the 10mm nut for adjusting is not perpendicular, it's heavily slanted, suggesting that one side is a lot more worn than the other. However, the pads are in identical condition. Is there any adjustment on the cable? I'm a bit :confused: by this.

regarding 7, I'm a bit surprised. I changed the front pads a few days ago and have covered 100 miles or so since and the brakes seem to be pretty effective now. I understood the system to be self regulating. Could it just be that they need to bed in more? The front brake imbalance is apparently 44% which seems a lot.

On the brake test summary, I have:

		    Front Axle		            Rear Axle
		Lh	Rh	Limit		Lh	Rh	Limit
Measured weight (kgf)  423	456	---		243	296	---
Drag (kgf)		13	19	---		9	15	---
Brake forces (kgf)     413	443	---		226	294	---
Brake difference (%)	    44		<25		    10

Could these be due to tracking being a bit out (tracking was noted as an advisory)?

So, comments?

Cheers. :thumbup:

I have put tax on worse :D

MOT Heathens!!! They should bow down and worship your car, the way you have it set up...Is nothing holy any more????

tfboy, you say that the handbrake equaliser link or yoke is not right - I think that you will find that the problem is that the return spring inside one of your rear calipers is malfunctioning. I had this on my wife's Polo and eventually bought a new yoke, thinking that the old one was distorted - only later discovered that one side was not returning fully - check the position of the handbrake levels on the calipers, I think you will find that one is not returning to near its stop. Short term this can be fixed by winding the pistons back in fully and then reseat the pads using the footbrake, then pull the handbrake on a few times. You should find that the cable yoke is now sitting perpendicular and the handbrake levers are on or near their stops when the handbrake is off - at least for the time being!

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Cheers, run4mo. I noticed that I had another advisory mentioning a sticky caliper spring on the rear. and handbrake is a lot "tighter". On inspection of the yoke thing, it's pretty straight again :)

Will have a look at sorting out the spring stuff soon, but thanks for the heads up :thumbup:

... I should be receiving my shiny new proper USB-HEX+CAN cable tomorrow ...

TODAY!!

Just had my MOT and thought id fail cos my rear offside door doesnt open (central lockings bust and it doesnt open from the inside)

As it turns out the regulations changed this year, rear doors only have to shut securely and not open, and since it was shut, it passed :)

Very fortunate, but im going to get the problem sorted out on warranty. However this is minor compared to all the stuff poor old tfboy has.

Jesus - that's a thorough MOT!

I wonder if the people doing the MOT get really super-careful when they see a nicely-modded car......

I wonder if the people doing the MOT get really super-careful when they see a nicely-modded car......

My last MOT was the most thorough one I've ever seen done and the mechanic was happy to talk me through what he was doing. I guess having a viewing window helps maintain standards too.

The last dealer I took my Skoda too seemed to be on a mission to find faults which needed fixing and would hit my pocket :(

Chris

They have a much more comprehensive manual now all the tests are done online, and specific items to check on each make and model. They don't get away with just a brief look around any more...

Seems a bit odd that it reads low on the same side both front and back, I thought the brakes were a diagonal split i.e. front left, rear right were on the same circuit and vice versa. :confused:

When I used to take cars for MOT I told the examiner if the car had new brakes fitted because of the difference between bedded in brakes and new brakes.

Indeed, it could be two different mechanical problems - a seized handbrake mechanism at the rear, and a sticking caliper at the front, for example. Many scenarios are possible, I was just suggesting one.

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