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  1. TRITON 6.5Jx17 ET41 fitted with 215/55R17 tyres https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/kolo-z-lehke-slitiny-triton-17-pro-superb-iii/p/3V0071497++8Z8
  2. Kilen 23131 is the same as Lesjofors 4085732. They are both sold to replace OEM part number 5Q0411105GL. 5Q0411105GL L06 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GL coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue brown 2 PR-L06 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411030/#1 Kilen and Lesjofors are both made in the same factory in Sweden, and are exactly the same spring. Kilen 23131 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352663646033?epid=248864403&hash=item521c642f51%3Ag%3AEPgAAOSw0FBietkh&LH_ItemCondition=3 Lesjofors 4085732 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185219606467?epid=249310913&hash=item2b1ff2e7c3%3Ag%3AwBIAAOSw~Ihhvbi7&LH_ItemCondition=3
  3. 5Q0411105HR is softer than the standard 5Q0411105HS front spring. It's better to fit the standard 5Q0411105HS front spring, rather than the softer 5Q0411105HR front spring. You can see in the chart below that 5Q0411105HR has build code L30 and 5Q0411105HS has build code L31. This is a hierarchy, and shows how the springs relate to each other. Although not conclusive, this is confirmed by reference to the specification of the springs that match the OEM part numbers of these springs. 5Q0411105HR has a wire diameter of 12.75mm 5Q0411105HS has a wire diameter of 13.0mm Octavia MK3 Scout front springs (1) 5Q0 411 105 HR coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey violet 2 PR-L30 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HS coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey blue 2 PR-L31 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411030/
  4. If you don't carry much weight in the back of the car, you may find that the 5Q0411105DR front springs and the 1K0511115CT or 5Q0511115AN rear springs are a good match. However, if you carry a lot of weight in the back of the car, ie. a heavy load, you may find that the rear springs are too soft and low to match the front springs. If this is the case, you may have to look at custom rear springs to better match the 5Q0411105DR front springs.
  5. Most 5Q0511115AN rear springs show 8.8 coil turns. There is one incorrectly labelled spring on autodoc, the Suplex 30034 spring which isn't a 5Q0511115AN spring. You can tell the Suplex 30034 isn't a 5Q0511115AN spring because it is too short, too light, and the wire diameter is too thin.
  6. 5Q0411105DR is a front spring and has 4.8 coil turns. https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18259219 The Eibach R10494 is a rear spring and has 8.8 coil turns. https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/13828886 Front and rear springs don't need to have the same number of coil turns, and usually don't.
  7. Yes, the car will straighten out after you hit the bump. The point I was making was that if you have to drive over a bad road, you need to consider more than the unladen ride height, but how much the springs will compress when hitting those big bumps in the road. So a 10mm increase in unladen ride height might seem small, but if the spring is now 10% stiffer the in use ride height of the car's body will be a lot more than 10mm, eg. maybe 25mm if you hit a big bump. This 25mm improvement is due to the 10mm increase in unladen ride height that you start with, and also the reduced compression of the suspension due to the 10% stiffer spring. Hence a 10mm increase in front ride height, combined with a 10% stiffer spring, gives a lot more than a 10mm improvement when hitting big bumps in the road.
  8. 5Q0412545D https://www.skoda-parts.com/spare-part/5q0412545d-coil-spring-shelf-38074.html https://www.autodoc.co.uk/borsehung/14513094
  9. The link shows Eibach R10494 rear springs that match 1K0511115CS (which is the same as 5Q0511115AN). Your Octavia MK3 Scout left the factory with 5Q0511115AN rear springs, so this isn't a modification. I haven't seen any longer/stiffer rear springs that will fit your car. Matching 1K0511115CS or 5Q0511115AN rear springs to 5Q0411105DR front springs may cause your car to look like a speedboat, ie. a front end higher than the rear end. As well as having an unladen front ride height about 10mm more than your standard 5Q0411105HS front springs, the 5Q0411105DR are about 10% stiffer. In use, these 10% stiffer front springs will compress less when going over bumps in the road, so if you hit a big bump this could result in the front body height being about 25mm higher compared to the standard 5Q0411105HS front springs. There was an engineering company in Birmingham, England that can make custom springs. For example, the Mini Moke uses Mini parts but is lighter so needs custom springs are needed. Mini Moke (based on original Mini parts, but lighter so needs custom springs as the original Mini springs are too hard) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Moke If you could find a company that makes custom car springs, then show them a new 1K0511115CS or 5Q0511115AN and ask them to make you a custom spring 10mm longer in uncompressed length and with a wire diameter 0.5mm thicker, ie. 13.5mm wire diameter instead of 13.0mm wire diameter. All other specifications the same, such as outside diameter and number of coil turns. As you can see from the Eibach R10494 listing, the 1K0511115CS or 5Q0511115AN rear springs have 8.8 coil turns. This would then modify your rear springs in a similar way to the front springs when going from the standard 5Q0411105HS front springs to the 10% stiffer and slightly longer 5Q0411105DR front springs. If you don't carry much weight in the back, then the standard 1K0511115CS or 5Q0511115AN rear springs will feel relatively stiffer, compared to how they feel with a heavy rear load. You may then find that fitting the stiffer 5Q0411105DR front springs matches the standard rear springs. For example, when there's no rear load in an estate car you will often notice that the rear end is higher than the front end. This is so that when you do add load in the back of the car, the car doesn't end up looking like a speedboat, ie. with the front end higher than the rear end. Octavia MK3 4x4 Scout Rear Springs 1 5Q0 511 115 AL coil spring 2 PR-1JB+0YC (1) 5Q0 511 115 AM coil spring 2 PR-1JB,0YD (1) 5Q0 511 115 AN coil spring 2 PR-1JB+0YE https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/5/511-511010/#1 1K0511115CR is the same as 5Q0511115AL 1K0511115CS is the same as 5Q0511115AM 1K0511115CT is the same as 5Q0511115AN
  10. For your Octavia MK3 Scout to be so much lower than a facelift Octavia MK3 Scout, maybe someone has fitted standard ride height springs before you purchased the car. Either that, or your springs/shock absorbers are simply old/sagging/worn-out, etc. and simply need replacing.
  11. The top bearings for the front shock absorbers on the Octavia MK3 Scout have OEM part number 5Q0412249E. 5Q0412249E 2 5Q0 412 249 E deep groove ball thrust bearng 2 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411002/#2 Top bearings for front shock absorbers with OEM part numbers 6N0412249C and 6N0412249E aren't correct for your car.
  12. You have 5Q0511115AN rear springs on your car already. These are the stiffest Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs. The Octavia MK3 Scout 5Q0511115AN rear spring has the same specification as the Octavia MK2 Scout 1K0511115CT rear spring. I've listed the below springs soft, medium, and hard so that you can see the hierarchy. The hard spring is about 10% stiffer than the soft spring, whereas the medium spring is about 5% harder than the soft spring. So they are actually quite close in stiffness. Octavia MK2 Scout rear springs that are equivalent to Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs Soft 1K0511115CR is the same as 5Q0511115AL (Wire Diameter 12.5mm, Length 378-380mm, Outer Diameter 114-115mm, Weight 2.4-2.45kg) Medium 1K0511115CS is the same as 5Q0511115AM (Wire Diameter 12.75mm, Length 382-383mm, Outer Diameter 117mm, Weight 2.6kg) Hard 1K0511115CT is the same as 5Q0511115AN (Wire Diameter 13mm, Length 382-383mm, Outer Diameter 117-118mm, Weight 2.75-2.8kg)
  13. Febi 170554 06K103485A https://www.autodoc.co.uk/febi-bilstein/15490501 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334456505101?hash=item4ddf29430d:g:KtoAAOSwj99iklWp
  14. I am not saying Octavia MK2 front springs won't physically fit the Octavia MK3, it's just that I haven't seen any evidence. They might physically be interchangeable. The Octavia MK2 is based on the Golf MK5 chassis, whereas the Octavia MK3 is based on the Golf MK7 chassis. The ends of the springs might be shaped differently. It's your risk if you try. Maybe purchase just one spring to try the fit to reduce the financial risk if it doesn't fit. You need to find longer rear springs to match the approximately 10mm to 26mm increase in front ride height, depending which front springs you fit. There's no point fitting longer front springs, if you can't find suitable matching rear springs.
  15. That might work. It's a very heavy spring. Probably at least 3.2kg. Because of the 6 coil turns instead of 4.8 coil turns, it might last longer between breakages. However, if you're not having a problem with broken springs I would go for something lighter. Perhaps 5Q0411105DR that I mentioned earlier. I would estimate that they would both raise the front unladen ride height by about 10mm compared to the standard Scout front springs. I don't know if these oversize front springs would fit the Octavia MK3 Scout, and they are expensive springs.
  16. That's a 5Q0411105HR front spring which is one weight range below the the standard 5Q0411105HS. Although the 340mm uncompressed length sounds promising, these measurement are often only a rough guide. Because it is one weight range below the 5Q0411105HS, it will have the same unladen front ride height. However, when you add weight to the car the in use ride height will be less. 5Q0411105HR and 5Q0411105HS are very close. For example, you might use the HR version in a manual gearbox car and the slightly stiffer HS version in an automatic/DSG gearbox car. Octavia MK3 Scout front springs (1) 5Q0 411 105 HR coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey violet 2 PR-L30 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HS coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey blue 2 PR-L31 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411030/
  17. 1K0411105DM/1K0411105DN is a heavier duty spring than 1K0411105DK/1K0411105DL. Although 1K0411105DK/1K0411105DL is 6mm longer in the uncompressed state, 1K0411105DM/1K0411105DN has less coil turns and a 0.25mm thicker wire diameter. This results in the 1K0411105DM/1K0411105DN being stiffer than the 1K0411105DK/1K0411105DL. 1K0411105DK/1K0411105DL is heavier than 1K0411105DM/1K0411105DN not because it is stiffer but because it has more coil turns, which all things being equal makes it softer. However, 1K0411105DM/1K0411105DN has about the same stiffness as 5Q0411105HS, but because it increases the unladen front ride height by about 26mm...it's not a good choice. Going higher needs a stiffer spring to control the body roll of the car's now higher centre of gravity. For this reason, I think you would be better considering the 5Q0411105DR from the Karoq/Kodiaq. Plus I am not sure the Octavia MK2 front springs will physically fit the Octavia MK3. 1K0411105DK 1K0411105DL (Length 358mm, Coil turns 5.7, Wire diameter 13.25mm, Weight 2.45kg) https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/86360/detail?query=1K0411105DK&numberType=1&oe=1K0411105DK&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%201K0411105DK;query:1K0411105DK;page:0/detail:86360;brandId:1;articleNo:86360;query:1K0411105DK;numberType:1;oe:1K0411105DK;groups:188 1K0411105DM 1K0411105DN Length 352mm, Coil turns 5.3, Wire diameter 13.5mm, Weight 2.35kg) https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/cars/part/1/86454/detail?targetId=19821&typeNumber=19821&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:SKODA%20OCTAVIA%20II%20Combi%20(1Z5)%202.0%20TDI%204x4;targetType:cars;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821;page:0;brands:1;groups:188;c100:VA%2CHA/assignedPartDetail:86454;targetType:cars;brandId:1;articleNo:86454;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821;groups:188
  18. The 5Q0411105DR front springs from the Karoq and Kodiaq might be an option for the Octavia MK3 Scout to replace the 5Q0411105HS. This might raise the front ride height by about 10mm. Although the 5Q0411105DR only has an uncompressed length 3mm more than the 5Q0411105HS spring, it has the same number of coil turns, and the extra 0.5mm wire thickness will mean that it's stiffer and will therefore compress less. The result should be an increase in unladen front ride height of about 10mm. Because the 5Q0411105DR front spring is about 10% stiffer than the 5Q0411105HS front spring, the car's front ride height should be more than 10mm when the car is loaded, and considerably more clearance when going over bumps because the 10% stiffer front springs will compress less. Front springs 5Q0411105DR (Length 333mm, Coil turns 4.8, Wire thickness 13.5mm) (from Karoq and Kodiaq) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18259219 Front springs 5Q0411105HS (Length 330mm, Coil turns 4.8, Wire thickness 13.0mm) (from Octavia MK3 Scout) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112496
  19. I suggest you purchase both the GE14 and GE15, and see if you can get the bigger GE15 to fit. If there's not enough room for the GE15 to fit, then you will have to fit the smaller GE14 ...which might be a loose fit. To get the bigger GE15 to fit, you might need to remove the lower shock absorber bolts so that the rear springs can be fully uncompressed...thereby providing the maximum space between the coil turns for the Grayston spring assistors to fit. Each of the below four Grayston spring assistors are made to cover a large range. If the GE15 is close to fitting but not quite, then the GE14 could be a loose fit. GE13 Suits 18 to 25mm gap GE14 Suits 26 to 38mm gap GE15 Suits 39 to 51mm gap GE15A Suits 51 to 65mm gap It would be cheaper to purchase two new rear springs than two set of Grayston spring assistors. 2x NAPA rear springs 5Q0511121AF 5Q0511121AG https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234570794659?hash=item369d8246a3:g:lQIAAOSwwFtiknGs
  20. You typed: 1К0411105DК I think you mean: 1K0411105DK The K's in your OEM part number aren't actually K's as in the English alphabet. Are you using a foreign keyboard where the K isn't actually a K, but just looks like a K? 1K0411105DK is an Octavia MK2 front spring which has 5.7 coil turns, whereas the 5Q0411105HS is an Octavia MK3 front spring and only has 4.8 coil turns. The Octavia MK2's front spring will be much softer than the Octavia MK3's front spring because of these extra coil turns, ie. 18.75% more coil turns, if everything else about the springs were identical (there are other differences). I don't know if they are physically interchangeable. Octavia MK3 front spring 5Q0411105HS (4.8 coil turns) Octavia MK2 front spring 1K0411105DK (5.7 coil turns) Octavia MK2 1K0411105DM 1K0411105DN front spring (5.3 coil turns) gknautomotive lists 1K0411105DM and 1K0411105DN for the Octavia MK2 Scout 4x4 front springs https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/cars/part/1/86454/detail?targetId=19821&typeNumber=19821&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:SKODA%20OCTAVIA%20II%20Combi%20(1Z5)%202.0%20TDI%204x4;targetType:cars;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821;page:0;brands:1;groups:188;c100:VA%2CHA/assignedPartDetail:86454;targetType:cars;brandId:1;articleNo:86454;targetId:19821;typeNumber:19821;groups:188 1K0411105DK 1K0411105DL 1K0411105DM 1K0411105DN (1) 1K0 411 105 DK coil spring 3 paint marks orange 2 PR-L60 (1) 1K0 411 105 DL coil spring 4 colour strokes orange 2 PR-L61 (1) 1K0 411 105 DM coil spring 2 paint marks violet 2 PR-L66 (1) 1K0 411 105 DN coil spring 3 paint marks 1 paint mark also marked with: 3 paint marks pink brown violet 2 PR-L67 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2012-663/4/411-411012/ 1K0411105DN should give a similar stiffness to 5Q0411105HS, so a better choice than 1K0411105DK if it will physically fit. However, it would raise the ride height by about 26mm and that's not 26mm more than an old sagging suspension but 26mm more than a new full height suspension. Then it wouldn't match the rear ride height. Many owners want to overcompensate when their suspension is sagging when all they need is to bring their suspension back into new condition, ie. the ride height it had when it left the factory.
  21. Demon Tweeks have admitted that the Grayson spring assistors are only for temporary use when they said: "The Grayston Spring Assisters give springs a helping hand when lugging loads. Designed as a temporary help for rear springs when carrying heavier loads than normal or when towing, they are progressive in operation and provide extra support to keep vehicles more level and stop wheels catching arches." I would have used the words "temporary bodge" rather than "temporary help", but that's marketing people for you. The worst part about them is how much harder they make the spring. If your rear springs have eight coil turns, then these Grayston spring assistors might make two of those eight coil turns uncompressable, resulting in a massive 33% increase in stiffness. Your rear seat passengers won't be happy, if they are the sort that like a comfortable ride.
  22. Grayson spring assisters will increase the rear unladen ride height, make the ride harder, and cause premature breakage of the rear springs. It really is quite an unpleasant bodge. The premature breakage is caused by a section of the spring being prevented from flexing. This causes the rest of the spring to overflex, thereby causing metal fatigue and the resultant premature breakage. Grayson spring assisters Copied from demon-tweeks The Grayston Spring Assisters give springs a helping hand when lugging loads. Designed as a temporary help for rear springs when carrying heavier loads than normal or when towing, they are progressive in operation and provide extra support to keep vehicles more level and stop wheels catching arches. They have been designed to be fitted by the normal DIY motorist and can just take a few minutes without any need for special tools - simply jack up the car, fit in between the spring gaps and carefully lower back to the ground. Choose the correct size to fit the spring gap (measured in the middle of the spring when vehicle is jacked up): GE13 Suits 18 to 25mm gap GE14 Suits 26 to 38mm gap GE15 Suits 39 to 51mm gap GE15A Suits 51 to 65mm gap Supplied individually (one required for each spring). https://www.demon-tweeks.com/grayston-spring-assister-277238/?sku=GRYGE14&istCompanyId=a2904180-3a7d-4e56-b876-cf81c9512180&istFeedId=6fbc4b04-fd28-4ce1-8513-835c8f118690&istItemId=wptppxmlr&istBid=t&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpd_xrtjQ-AIVjN_tCh2qvw1nEAQYASABEgL3oPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds It's much better to select the correct springs for the load you wish to carry. If you currently have rear springs with OEM part number 5Q0511121AF, then going up one level to 5Q0511121AG would make the rear springs a little bit stiffer. Rear springs for Octavia MK3 with standard ride height (1) 5Q0 511 121 AF coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YF (1) 5Q0 511 121 AG coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YG (1) 5Q0 511 121 AH coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YH https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/5/511-511000/ Eibach R19354 5Q0511121AF Length 347mm, Wire diameter 11.5mm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/17876014 Eibach R17296 5Q0511121AG Length 348mm, Wire diameter 11.75mm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112497
  23. I would let the Skoda parts department supply the correct part based on the car's VIN number. Sometimes the parts are updated with a new OEM part number. It depends what their VAG system shows.
  24. The facelift Scout should have the same ride height as the pre-facelift Scout. Maybe try fitting new springs and/or shock absorbers. This chart may help you with rear springs, as aftermarket Octavia MK2 Scout rear springs are often cheaper than the equivalent aftermarket Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs. Octavia MK2 Scout rear springs that are equivalent to Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs 1K0511115CR is the same as 5Q0511115AL (Wire Diameter 12.5mm, Length 378-380mm, Outer Diameter 114-115mm, Weight 2.4-2.45kg) 1K0511115CS is the same as 5Q0511115AM (Wire Diameter 12.75mm, Length 382-383mm, Outer Diameter 117mm, Weight 2.6kg) 1K0511115CT is the same as 5Q0511115AN (Wire Diameter 13mm, Length 382-383mm, Outer Diameter 117-118mm, Weight 2.75-2.8kg) Kilen 65073 and Lesjofors 4295087 are sold to replace both 1K0511115CS and 5Q0511115AM rear springs. Hence, why these Octavia MK2 Scout and Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs are interchangeable. Kilen 65073 and Lesjofors 4295087 1K0511115CS 5Q0511115AM https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/1k0511115cs?search=OEN+1K0511115CS&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=246 Octavia MK3 Scout 5Q0411105HS front springs https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112496 Octavia MK2 Scout 1K0511115CT rear springs (equivalent to Octavia MK3 Scout rear springs 5Q0511115AN) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/13828886 If you want new Scout shock absorbers, it might be best getting OEM Skoda ones as aftermarket might not be a good match to the original shock absorbers. This is because aftermarket shock absorbers are geared to the standard ride height market, so aftermarket increased ride height shock absorbers will often just be standard ride height shock absorbers. You can tell by looking at the huge number of OEM part numbers that the aftermarket shock absorber is being sold to replace.
  25. 5Q0413031FS front shock absorber G10 (8) 5Q0 413 031 FS gas shock absorber 54,6MM 2 PR-G10 1K0412303H 90mm rubber stop for shock absorber G10 3 1K0 412 303 H rubber stop for shock absorber 90MM 2 PR-G10 Ride height is measured from the centre of the wheel to the bottom of the wheelarch, when the car is unladen. This measurement allows you to compare with Skoda's official measurements, and see whether the unladen ride height is within specification, eg. whether the springs/shock absorbers are sagging.

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