I have in the past seen references to people "brimming" their tank, presumably by pressing the little catch with the pump to release the air, and then topping up some more. However, when I do this, I get like another 50p in if I'm lucky and then do it again.... do you guys who brim their tanks do this over and over again just to squeeze a few more quid in the tank? Or am I doing something wrong?

Mate I can get 52L if I really push it!!! The trick is to hold the button in with the nozzle and then just trickle the fuel in, ie dont put the pump on full flow..... There is a knack to this though.....

Why on earth do owners of diesels - which apparently deliver phenomenal mpg - need to indulge in brimming? It makes about as much sense to me as seeing how much oil you can put in your engine, or air pressure in your tyres.......

Also, now it's getting warm, I wouldn't fill it up using the expansion tank bit unless I'm sure I'm gonna burn the diesel before it warms up too much and overflows

Ive had 56l

basically, when i fill up. i fill up as normal until the pump shuts off. then i use the pump nozzle to press and hold the vent lever.. youll hear a small hiss as it lets out pressure.. then as long as you hold the leaver theres another 10l you can use

EDIT: just to add.. coz its summer and quite warm.. i tend to go to 51l max... unless im filling up before a long journey. the expansion tank is there for a reason. and it does need space to expand in summer

EDIT2: bugger.. Xav beat me to it!

Must admit have stopped brimming for the summer unless I'm going to burn the brimming immediately.

Why on earth do owners of diesels - which apparently deliver phenomenal mpg - need to indulge in brimming? It makes about as much sense to me as seeing how much oil you can put in your engine, or air pressure in your tyres.......

Because... mr meldrew... using the expansion tank allows another 150 miles before the next fillup.. and it looks really good that you can do over 200 miles before the gauge even moves off full

...and probably because unlike you, we can actually notice a difference with the range :P

I always brim the tank...car and van regardless of the time of year. However if you want to be really picky on this, fill up first thing in the morning and you can get even more in the tank

So am I expected to believe that, having religiously brimmed your tanks with diesel, you then drive like pensioners to extract the best mpg from your cars? Sounds like an ego thing to me, and have you considered what carrying that extra fuel does to your cars' performance and mpg?

PS: I'm off to see if I can sqeeze any more food into my dogs before I take them for a long walk. Should slow them down nicely.

Its not a problem if you enjoy standing around at fuel stations. If like me you detest having to fill up, it can make a lot of difference to the mileage you can do between fills.

PS: I'm off to see if I can sqeeze any more food into my dogs before I take them for a long walk. Should slow them down nicely.

And I,m sure they will try to squeeze that extra bit out for you to clear up after them. :eek:

This is a serious comment. Doesn't brimming increase the likelihood of yet more diesel spillage on the garage forecourt? :grumpy:

And I,m sure they will try to squeeze that extra bit out for you to clear up after them. :eek:

Noted. :(

This is a serious comment. Doesn't brimming increase the likelihood of yet more diesel spillage on the garage forecourt? :grumpy:

:(

Not if your careful.

At least the vapours arent carcenogenic :(

At least the vapours arent carcenogenic :(

Diesel exhaust is dirty -- far dirtier than exhaust from gasoline. It causes worse pollution and it has harsher effects on human health. Diesel exhaust is a major source of nitrogen dioxide, for example, which causes smog.

The tiny particles diesel engines emit are also dangerous. Virtually all of them are smaller than one micron. (There are 25,400 microns in one inch -- the period at the end of this sentence is hundreds of microns across.) Particles that small can evade the respiratory system's defenses and embed themselves in the lungs. (In general, particles less than 10 microns in diameter pose this problem.) They can cause short-term effects, like wheezing and coughing, as well as chronic respiratory problems. Breathable particles are especially harmful to elderly people and those with existing respiratory or cardiovascular problems. Recent studies show that chronic exposure to breathable particles is associated with a higher rate of death from respiratory and cardiovascular disease.

Diesel exhaust is also known to cause lung cancer, and may cause bladder cancer as well. Lifetime exposure to diesel pollution could mean premature death from cancer for more than 14,000 Californians, according to the California Air Resources Board. Studies in Southern California indicate that 70 percent of the estimated lifetime risk of cancer from air pollution is attributable to diesel exhaust. Children are particularly susceptible to diesel's health effects, because they are particularly vulnerable to air pollution. Their still-developing lungs are more sensitive, and they breathe more air (and thus more pollution) relative to their size than adults do.

Copyright 2001: Natural Resources Defence Council.

I tried a search for diesel fuel pollution using Google and this came up near the top of the list. There may well be counter-arguments of which I am not aware.

Mr Research strikes again. He's nothing if not thorough.

It's American research though! The EPA embarrest the US Government by releasing a press release that says enviromentally the US should embrace Diesel, something wth the government had ruled out. Americans are very anti-diesel presumably because:-

1. Detroit has huge political clout

2. They can't make as good diesel cars as the Europeans.

Find a european report and compare. It will probably say Diesel is better than 'gasoline'

Petrol engines produce smaller pm,s than diesel,which are even more harmful. Its just the obvious soot that causes the anti diesel lobbys to "told you so".

What you have to ask yourself is why if diesel is so bad..are most of the major manufacturers saying that diesel is the way forward as the petrol engine is more or less developed out.

Sorry for the diversion.

What you have to ask yourself is why if diesel is so bad..are most of the major manufacturers saying that diesel is the way forward as the petrol engine is more or less developed out.

Sorry for the diversion.

That's news to me, Andy. I will go away and do some more reading since I don't have an axe to grind (apart from diesel spillage!) and will probably buy a baby diesel next.

That's news to me, Andy. I will go away and do some more reading since I don't have an axe to grind (apart from diesel spillage!) and will probably buy a baby diesel next.

To be honest Denis its not something that your average pro petrol glossys are going to report.

I have read this sort of comments from the heads or Peugeot, Ford (USA) and Daimler-Chrysler.

Oh for god's sake get a grip all of you.

Diesel & Petrol are as bad as each other, and until we can run cars on water we have to live with it.

Same old boring subjects yet again.

Its more a swapping of information Geoff, so hardly boring repartition.

Ok , so the subject has wandered off the original topic, but no-ones quite got the "my stick is bigger than yours "bit..just yet anyway.

Interesting question though comes to mind on the brimming topic, how many actually do brim their car and is it just a diesel driver thing?

Okey dokey, that answered my question anyway!

Argue away, lol

Andy,

As per usual it's only a matter of time before it decends (yet again) into Octy v Furby.

Yawnnnnn etc.

Anyway..knock yourselves out, i've said my piece

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No , if im doing a long run i'll bother to do it to the RS , i spend far to long in petrol stations anyway.........futkin hate them since the turned them into mini supermarkets

Steve