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At a very reasonable price I may hasten to add.........as we are in the area and all that. :D

How much have you spent on your vRS to make it to the spec you have? I am in no means baiting but the money you have spent is obviously relevant. Especially seeing as that if i was to be silly enough to spend 20-30k on my engine i could then run 600-700bhp. Thing is, i'd rather NOT waste the money on an already quick car and actually use that 20k plus the sale of the car in 2 years and buy something like a Noble with a couple of grand extra. Then i could have a genuine super car with the respect that you are missing in your Octy. Mind you, i will atleast give you the MPG win from the off. If only i had an adult sized fuel tank i might be able to put my foot down for more than a couple of minutes lol.

Darren

How much have you spent on your vRS to make it to the spec you have? I am in no means baiting but the money you have spent is obviously relevant. Especially seeing as that if i was to be silly enough to spend 20-30k on my engine i could then run 600-700bhp. Thing is, i'd rather NOT waste the money on an already quick car and actually use that 20k plus the sale of the car in 2 years and buy something like a Noble with a couple of grand extra. Then i could have a genuine super car with the respect that you are missing in your Octy. Mind you, i will atleast give you the MPG win from the off. If only i had an adult sized fuel tank i might be able to put my foot down for more than a couple of minutes lol.

Darren

Are you going to use the Evo for work in the same way as you did the Octy vRS, as I cannot the EVO surviving to many building sites????

How much have you spent on your vRS to make it to the spec you have? I am in no means baiting but the money you have spent is obviously relevant. Especially seeing as that if i was to be silly enough to spend 20-30k on my engine i could then run 600-700bhp. Thing is, i'd rather NOT waste the money on an already quick car and actually use that 20k plus the sale of the car in 2 years and buy something like a Noble with a couple of grand extra. Then i could have a genuine super car with the respect that you are missing in your Octy. Mind you, i will atleast give you the MPG win from the off. If only i had an adult sized fuel tank i might be able to put my foot down for more than a couple of minutes lol.

Darren

i spent very little on my mk1 (sub 5k) and that obliterated evo5/6/7 etc this side of 35k+ FQ's.... including the 400hp 6 TME that it parked next to daily. Its not all about power, and handling is as much about driving style as setup.

I think the question you have to ask is how much would you have to spend on your car to beat me. A lot more I can assure you. The cost of the cars, tuning parts and labour on rice cars are a lot higher than my low rent Skoda. Makes me feel alot better as I sail past and see the look on their dept ridden faces. Most of the rice boys I know round my neck of the woods take to driving around very slowly just save fuel, it's such a shame. Mind you, half of them drive around in pup's just so they can say, 'I drive jap'.

Most of the rice boys I know round my neck of the woods take to driving around very slowly just save fuel, it's such a shame. .

That is very true in these parts aswell. You never see a scoob booting it these days.

Are you going to use the Evo for work in the same way as you did the Octy vRS, as I cannot the EVO surviving to many building sites????

I have sold the wifes Focus and am now looking to buy a 156 JTD for work. Cheap quick and comfy:cool: The EVO is a weekend car and for the wife to use during the week to go shopping. (20 miles per week) I still have my 69 Series Land Rover that has been rebuilt on a Discovery chassis for weekend fun in the mud:D

Darren

i think the whole jap thing loses its appeal cos everyone know they are quick, and the fact you can buy an import for the same as a bag of crisps they are also easy to get hold of :orb_rolli

it seems every 12 year old with or without a license has a scooby or a bloody evo around here or to be worse those f##king stalet or glanze sh##

sumin like dels has gotta be alot more fun, something that goes a way more than it should has gotta be more fun :orb_not_w

given the money id happily chuck a ihi or garrett at mine but hey lol the fund say no :orb_sad:

all that said tho, im bias as i hate jap motors :orb_angry

that said im not here to offend people so :orb_angel big spoilers n scoops left right and center i wish u all the bese :orb_clap:

I used to use Red Devil for work untill I got a company car. It clocked up 145K (including trackdays etc), the last 20K with a GT28 setup. On a run to Scotland it managed 500 miles from a tank full. It cost me £480 to insure fully comp, all mods declared. A shed load of power and an everyday car.

who did you conversion des? :orb_boss: was it mega costly or just the normal costly lol :orb_not_w

A mate of mine once had an imported Toyota celica WRC with a fettled lump claiming 300bhp

He took me out for drive in it and to be honest my standard mk1 vrs felt as fast if not faster

We've got Vin diesel and paul walker to blame for the overly populated jap cars running on our roads

I understand where you're coming from, I have always like stealth performance. For many years the Audi RS2 Avant was my dream car. If the funds were available to get back into Scooby ownership I'd want a Spec C Type RA-R, spoiler-less and scoop-less (FMIC). Sensibly speaking though, an RA-R would cost me IRO £30k, and fitting a FMIC with all related performance parts and tidying up after removing wings and scoops would take the car nearer £40k, and for that money I'd rather have an Ariel Atom, a car very few others can match for performance and which would lose almost nothing come resale time. A mate of mine who had one for 2 years paid £41k for it new and sold it for £39.5k. The same guy also admitted that on a challenging country road, Scoobs were noticeably quicker than it ! On track however it was a different story. I rode in it against a variety of performance cars and it obliterated EVERYTHING :D

who did you conversion des? :orb_boss: was it mega costly or just the normal costly lol :orb_not_w

I think Des has been something of a pioneer and his car has seen lots of iterations rather than being dropped off at tuner x with a blank cheque, it has pretty much evolved over time into the animal it is today so to ask how much has been spent on it wouldn't give a true representation of what it would cost to do from scratch

who did you conversion des? :orb_boss: was it mega costly or just the normal costly lol :orb_not_w

If you want a proper big turbo conversion (GT28/71) with everything to match you are looking at approx 10K. My idea of proper means everything that needs to be upgraded to match the big turbo's power.

If you want 300bhp for 5 minutes 2.5 - 3K. Then start upgrading everything that bends one at a time. :rofl:

cheers des :orb_cool:

i was tempted by the jbs04 option that can make the way for 300bhp ? seeing i think their 11k gt30 option may been in dream land lol :orb_sad:

i will just suport the red devil fan club it seems lol i can afford that lol :orb_not_w

i swiped this from the jbs add lol lol

Using a derivative of the extreme GT3071WG turbocharger, JBS have specified a number of modifications both to the housing and internals that ensure this turbo provides great driveability in addition to BIG power!

You'll be more than happy with the 450bhp this conversion should give.

JBS30 Turbo (Hybrid GT3071WG)

JBS Custom Equal Length Stainless Steel Manifold

JBS Developed Front Mount Intercooler

JBS Developed 3" Downpipe and Exhaust System

JBS Spec Stage 3+ Clutch Kit

JBS Con-Rods - Rifle Drilled and Balanced

JBS Custom-Fit 1900cc Pistons

Re-Bore to 1900cc

Supertech Inconel Valves

Quaife ATB Differential (With Lifetime Guarantee)

Coolant Run-On Pump

RC High Impedance 550cc Injectors

3" MAF

3" Cold Air Intake System

4 BAR Fuel Pump and Fuel Pressure Regulator

Head Skim and Check

All Bolts, Seals and Gaskets Needed

Labour

Custom-Code Phase Three

£11650 inc VAT

i dont supose a kidney is worth 11650 is it lol

cheers des :orb_cool:

i was tempted by the jbs04 option that can make the way for 300bhp ? seeing i think their 11k gt30 option may been in dream land lol :orb_sad:

i will just suport the red devil fan club it seems lol i can afford that lol :orb_not_w

i swiped this from the jbs add lol lol

Using a derivative of the extreme GT3071WG turbocharger, JBS have specified a number of modifications both to the housing and internals that ensure this turbo provides great driveability in addition to BIG power!

You'll be more than happy with the 450bhp this conversion should give.

JBS30 Turbo (Hybrid GT3071WG)

JBS Custom Equal Length Stainless Steel Manifold

JBS Developed Front Mount Intercooler

JBS Developed 3" Downpipe and Exhaust System

JBS Spec Stage 3+ Clutch Kit

JBS Con-Rods - Rifle Drilled and Balanced

JBS Custom-Fit 1900cc Pistons

Re-Bore to 1900cc

Supertech Inconel Valves

Quaife ATB Differential (With Lifetime Guarantee)

Coolant Run-On Pump

RC High Impedance 550cc Injectors

3" MAF

3" Cold Air Intake System

4 BAR Fuel Pump and Fuel Pressure Regulator

Head Skim and Check

All Bolts, Seals and Gaskets Needed

Labour

Custom-Code Phase Three

£11650 inc VAT

i dont supose a kidney is worth 11650 is it lol

On standard suspension, brakes, gearbox and diff. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

jabba's IHI jobby doesn't include any of the engines internals, does it? or does that now only count as a medium turbo :eek: :rofl:

not to mention that neither myself or Des would even let that bunch of cowboys (JBS) clean a toilet never mind touch a car......

If you want a kv04 turbo, with decent brakes (Brembos) and suspension, give the SEAT Cupra R a look. 260 - 270 bhp with a remap, and it certainly gives scoobys and evos a bit of a shock.

oh yeah lol brakes :orb_boss: they are on my list, the dif comes with the conversion lol but is jbs a no no from you then? :orb_no_no

what your views with backdraft motorsport? they do a t28

this was my only other thought, after that im out lol

this is theirs

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Just to return to the original post of remapped vrs Vs scooby/evo, I'm making the assumption that we're talking about similar age cars, therefore you'd have no chance. Simple.

Listen to Corradoboy, he knows his stuff, I used to read many of his posts on scoobynet and he makes a lot of sense.

As for the "I've spent ££££££ and I'll **** on everything" people, if someone else spent the same on a scoob, let alone an evo, you'll be losing again.

Sorry, but don't kid yourselves :thumbup:

All IMHO of course ;)

Ok having not owned an evo or a skoob but owned a mk1 vrs 230hp ish i have to say the vrs has no chance. The power delivery thru the front wheels is shocking unless ftted with a Lsd, 4wd always win in that catagory. 230 vrs against an evo 4-9 standard thru gears straight line or twisties would be left behind. The vrs chassis just hasn't got the geometry set up to match the japs pedigree standard or modified.

I drove Whiteline's skoob a RA model running about 300hp and can honestly say nothing running a MK5 golf chassis would stand a chance. Graham (whitline part owner with Job gevers) sayed they did'nt need over this power due to the chassis being so good. He has proved it time and time again on track days against cars running 4-500hp and has past them all due to there chassis's not coping, it also relies on a good driver of course, a good driver in a **** car can beat a crap driver in a good car, no matter what powers in it.

a vrs beat a an evo any evo or a prezza LMFAO urm no not even in a str8 line period.

Dels and steve would get pwnd by a bogo fq400 aswell, by the time either of those crazy money pits had caught it the evo would of been bouncing of the rev limiter for about a week.

Perspective and honesty is needed here.

A VRS 180 as bogo is a great cheep motor i use mine as a daily runner (well did) and practical, the insides are **** (who thought of white carpet) the dash is more bogo then a tata, but its kinda fast and is comfy a kind of sleeper, remap it change loads of bits and it wakes up abit nothing sensational.

a bogo prezza or EVO are built to be fast everything points that way Skoda made the VRS more as the flagship car not as the fast car yall seem to think.

this convosation is EXACTLY the same as the old i got a Jabba map and i got 250BHP, urrrrmm no you dont you have 210 more then likely.

the Evo's especialy up to 155 MPH are near and in the FQ400's case in the super car performance bracket and no matter what unless the driver is 1 you wont beat it never ever its impossible to think and your making a nob of yaself to say so.

Prezza's are ok but i hate the noise and the image.

EVO's prolly mk 7 onwards are the more upmarket fast car IE if you earned 10k more a year you would have and be able to run it..

VRS anything beat an EVO not in this world EVER.

VRS beat a scubby prolly but only because the chav driving it has just passed his test.

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