Forget the front facing camera; can I have 64GB instead? :wonder:

Then you'd be stepping on the iPad's toes. 64Gb will be July 2011 when the new iPad is out.

Then you'd be stepping on the iPad's toes. 64Gb will be July 2011 when the new iPad is out.

Also, I accept that I am probably not a typical customer.

What I want is something handheld that can hold all my music & photo's plus a couple of films & some app's (about 40-50GB). I'd also like turn by turn GPS navigation & waterproof mounts for my pushbike & boat and a good selection of accessories. Phone or camera would just be a bonus.

I thought iPhone 4 was going to be it; my next hope is that Apple will put a GPS in the next 64GB Touch but it'll probably end up with a camera instead.

Do any of the Android phones come with 40+GB, GPS and a decent app store?

Edited 9 June, 201016 yr by The Ors

The only thing you have listed there that the iPhone doesn't do/have is the capacity.

Turn by turn nav there is tomtom or copilot for starters.

You can get waterproof covers.

I haven't looked into it but they do a mount for a gun for the iPhone so I would imagine you can get one for your bike.

The only thing you have listed there that the iPhone doesn't do/have is the capacity.

Turn by turn nav there is tomtom or copilot for starters.

You can get waterproof covers.

I haven't looked into it but they do a mount for a gun for the iPhone so I would imagine you can get one for your bike.

My boss has an iphone mount for his motorbike, think it's from RAM

The only thing you have listed there that the iPhone doesn't do/have is the capacity.

Yes, but that's the big problem. The previous iPhone also had everything I've listed except capacity. I was fully expecting 64GB iPhones & 128GB Touch last Monday. :'(

Do any of the Android phones come with 40+GB, GPS and a decent app store?

no, they have an micro sd card slot for you to put in as large a storage as you want/need. They come with a GPS sensor and there are many nav options on the android market, or root the phone and get it free from google. The app store is getting better, but it depends on what you are after as to wether it's got it or any good, but searching on the internet may well turn up something that is not on the market (you can install from anywhere)

Sorry to put a spin on things from what iv seen its 'Video calling over wifi'

So like BB Messenger but on iphone using video.

Which, again, isnt new. I was doing this using skype and fring on my N95!

It's only new on the iphone because Jobs says his followers can now have it

or root the phone and get it free from google.

You don't even have to root it. I'm using navigation via google maps now. Says its beta but seems to work ok.

O2 have announced their early upgrade offer for existing customers still in contract. You pay £20 for each outstanding month of your contract left, and you get an iPhone 4. This offer lasts from 24th June to 24th July only. Business customers pay a different rate.

Presumably you can then sell your old phone on eBay and recoup that cost?

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/howtoupgrade.html

Edited 10 June, 201016 yr by Royston

Basing pricing on the current range: £120 to pay off the last 6 months of my contract, plus £280+ for the iPhone 4 on another 18 month contract = £400+ and tied into a £35 a month contract. (£1030 over 18 months) Or £550ish outright PAYG, and a £15 - £20 p/m Simplicity tariff after 6 months. (£940 over 18 months with a current £35 p/m contract).

Thanks for the offer o2. I don't think I'll bother.

Unless you hike the price of the new phone up to ridiculous figures...

Video calling.... welcome to 2005 lol

I had that on a Panasonic flip phone on 3 ......... how quaint

O2 have announced their early upgrade offer for existing customers still in contract.

And now have announced that Unlimited data is now only 500MB data unless you want to pay over £45 a month.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

You don't even have to root it. I'm using navigation via google maps now. Says its beta but seems to work ok.

You are right Dai, works perfectly on a non routed desire, even better when using aloqa as well as you can search for something, it will give you the contact info then launch google maps in the background and you can then just click t't navigation button and off you go, turn by turn directions for car / walking / cycling .... and free

Well, I've read through the spec of the new iPhone, looked at all the hype, and one thing's still not clear. Can you still use it to talk to people, or is that too old fashioned?

Phil

By the time the 20 months outstanding on my Orange iPhone 3GS contract is up, I should be looking to upgrade to iPhone 5.

Is that is the one that will support MMS a.k.a PictureTime.

Edited 10 June, 201016 yr by foo

And now have announced that Unlimited data is now only 500MB data unless you want to pay over £45 a month.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html

Really not happy about this. Talk about being shafted! Not sure what I'll do now...

In all honesty unless your a YouTube, TV Catchup whore then you probably will be ok.

I use mine all the time, work emails, calls playing games and in the last 2 months I have only used 178mb of cellular data.

You still get unlimited wifi data

Yeh maybe it's not as bad as initially thought. I checked my usage from last month and was upto 321MB, so I guess you'd have to be caning it to go beyond 500.

From October you will be able to do 500mb or 1Gb data bolt ons if you really need it.

Really not happy about this. Talk about being shafted! Not sure what I'll do now...

They changed the terms of your contract so you can walk out of it.

I phoned them up, pointed this out when they did the 0845 not being part of your inclusive minutes thing and got out of the remainder of my contract.

I got a very good sim only deal from them too, so stayed on O2.

They aren't that daft.

If you STAY on your current contract you will get Unlimited Data until the contract ends.

See here

10 June, 2010, by James Cullimore

O2 is set to stop offering unlimited data on its smartphone tariffs.

From 24 June, any smartphone bought on an O2 contract will be subject to a 'fair usage' data cap.

Any customers signing up for contracts worth £35 per month and under after this date will be given a monthly data allowance of 500MB. Those on £40-£45 per month contracts will get 750MB. Users on the top-end contracts worth £60 per month can download up to 1GB data for free.

Users will be charged £5 for every additional 500MB they use over the data limit.

Existing O2 customers will still be able to access unlimited data on their smartphone - as long as they stay on the same plan.

O2 has stated that the move has been made in response to customer requests for clearer pricing from the company.

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/6/10/o2-ends-unlimited-mobile-data-plans-smartphones/

Edited 10 June, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

They aren't that daft.

If you STAY on your current contract you will get Unlimited Data until the contract ends.

See here

http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/6/10/o2-ends-unlimited-mobile-data-plans-smartphones/

Guess they learnt from the last time then

Now I know why I jumped ship from O2. T-Mobile business contract , 2 x HTC desires, 8GB data per handset, 1000 cross network minutes per handset, free calls between handsets, unlimited texts, free calls to landlines. £50 a month all in

I am paying around £25 per month less on T-Mobile with 2 x HT desires than I was on O2 for a single iPhone 3Gs

They changed the terms of your contract so you can walk out of it.

I phoned them up, pointed this out when they did the 0845 not being part of your inclusive minutes thing and got out of the remainder of my contract.

I got a very good sim only deal from them too, so stayed on O2.

Sure, and I see your point. The only thing is, I finished my contract back in January and have just rolled over on a month by month basis purposely waiting for a new model to come out this time of year, and then extend etc.

It might not be as bad as initially thought though - think you really have to be downloading a lot to go over the 500meg mark (can only speak for myself). I just don't like the idea of them changing the t&c's. Actually, I think they've even upped the current 18 month tariff I'm on of 600mins from £35 to £40 a month. Bunch of bandits!!