"Extended servicing" "Variable servicing" "Q1/Q2" ????????????

Ive not long bought a 03 Octavia TDI 110bhp with 102,000 miles. Dont like the idea of a 30,000 mile oil changes using long life oil (would this be a variable service?)

Can I change to a 10,000 mile oil change and not use long life oil without causing detrement to the engine? If so what oil should I use?

Cheers, Andy

Hi Andy,

you wont have too many problems with variable ( QG1) as the oil is designed with fierce cleaning additives to your engine clean (ish) and high quality polymers to make it stay in grade during it's service.

Doing 15000 - 20000 miles with the fully synthetic 5w/30 longlife will probably do no less harm than doing 10000 miles with a lesser quality semi synthetic in. I would recommend using an engine flush( fixed or variable) at each service to keep your new oil cleaner for longer, it's worth the extra tenner.

The oil to use is Shell Helix Ultra VX 5w/30, it can be used for fixed or variable, to be used when the handbook calls for 507.00 506.01 506.00, 505.00 504.00 503.01 503.00 502.00 , quoted from the back of the can.

Like the other chap said you can change to fixed if you want to.

regards

wonky

Good good.

There is something happening in the oil world though! they are currently developing and should be available soon 1 oil to meet all the VW codes, so a one stop shop saving the hassle of figuring out what oil is for what.

I will keep you posted on the developments.

Cheers

Guy.

Shell Helix Ultra VX 5w/30 states on the back of the can

for normal or longlife servicing

For use when the handbook calls for VW 507.00, 506.01, 505.00, 504.00, 503.01, 503.00 or 502.00

might help someone

cheers

wonky

I have read that the Fabia VRS requires 4.3 litres of VW 505.01 oil.

Is there a fully synthetic Oil that comes in 5 Litre cans, cos I don't really want to buy 2x4 litres

you could but 4ltr plus a 1ltr, most dealers do em

wonky

I have 2003 Elegance 130PD, so I guess from this (very useful) guide from 'OILMAN', I need to use 505.01. BUT if I opt for a non-VW variant what does this mean, and what should I look for? Semi synthetic SAE 5-40, or fully synthetic SAE 5-40? The 'oil book/chart' I picked up to look at in Halfords the other day recommends FULLY synthetic, specifically for the 130PD engine. My local Skoda dealer says semi- synthetic. Totally confused, and need help cos I'm slightly overdue a 40,000-mile (fixed) service.

I have 2003 Elegance 130PD, so I guess from this (very useful) guide from 'OILMAN', I need to use 505.01. BUT if I opt for a non-VW variant what does this mean, and what should I look for? Semi synthetic SAE 5-40, or fully synthetic SAE 5-40? The 'oil book/chart' I picked up to look at in Halfords the other day recommends FULLY synthetic, specifically for the 130PD engine. My local Skoda dealer says semi- synthetic. Totally confused, and need help cos I'm slightly overdue a 40,000-mile (fixed) service.

Hi Clive,

the 505.01 is just the specification of the oil bud, it is usually a fully synthetic high lubricity 5w/40 oil. All you have to do is look on the back of the can at the specs and find one that meets the VW 505.01 grade, whether it is a semi or fully shouldn't matter.

wonkey

The oil specs are very confusing dont u think?? Ive got a 1.9tdi fabia est i cant find anywhere that relates to PD but the manual says 505 01 all expensive oil.

Can be confusing yes. You need VW505.01 which are 5w-40 grade.

Plenty to choose from and they are not all that expensive, not compared to a longlife oil.

Opie Oils - Performance and Heating Oils

Cheers

Guy.

OK i'm very confused now after reading this!

I need to top up the oil in my 2004 Fabia VRS

Which oil should I be buying? the 505.1 5w-40?

Steve

OK i'm very confused now after reading this!

I need to top up the oil in my 2004 Fabia VRS

Which oil should I be buying? the 505.1 5w-40?

Steve

If you had bothered to look on the Fabia thread it's there as a 'sticky'!

OK i'm very confused now after reading this!

I need to top up the oil in my 2004 Fabia VRS

Which oil should I be buying? the 505.1 5w-40?

Steve

Yep, 505.01 5w-40.

You can get plenty of choices from with Briskoda discount

Cheers

Guy.

Hi Andy,

you wont have too many problems with variable ( QG1) as the oil is designed with fierce cleaning additives to your engine clean (ish) and high quality polymers to make it stay in grade during it's service.

Doing 15000 - 20000 miles with the fully synthetic 5w/30 longlife will probably do no less harm than doing 10000 miles with a lesser quality semi synthetic in. I would recommend using an engine flush( fixed or variable) at each service to keep your new oil cleaner for longer, it's worth the extra tenner.

The oil to use is Shell Helix Ultra VX 5w/30, it can be used for fixed or variable, to be used when the handbook calls for 507.00 506.01 506.00, 505.00 504.00 503.01 503.00 502.00 , quoted from the back of the can.

Like the other chap said you can change to fixed if you want to.

regards

wonky

You never mentioned 505.01 in that list? Can I use this in my Octavia TDI 110?

And if the engine in the 110bhp is not a PD, what is it?

Cheers

Andy

Many thanks for all that very useful gen on oil specs, OILMAN. I'm still a bit confused whether to use SYNTHETIC or NON-SYNTHETIC for fixed service intervals (I have a 2003 130PD, so it seems I need 505.01 - but should I go for 'S' or 'semi'??

Have just spotted that 'WONKEYDONKEY' has already replied to this BUT if I can use either S or semi S, what is the recommendation? (The latter is much more expensive).

PD 505.01 to my knowledge are 5w-40 and classed as synthetic.

I would stick to one of these.

Cheers

Guy.

how can i find anywhere that say the engine is a PD??????????

Try here

Opie Oils

Could save time and money!

Cheers

Guy

Try here

Opie Oils

Could save time and money!

Cheers

Guy

That's all well and good - however, if you select Octavia, 1.9 TDI (non PD), and select one of the 81kw variants (Either QG1 or QG2) you get model year 2001-2004. From what i can see, my Octavia is an X Reg (2000), with that engine, so which one do i use for my car?

It's not always obvious, as much as i'd like the oil buying equation to be simple. If the site were adapted to ask you for you engine AND the specification required in the manual (for example 505.xx), surely that would make it easier to buy the correct oil?

I would use the one thats recommended in my skoda's manual

VW506.1/VW507.0 will be fine for variable servicing in that car and would be overkill for fixed servicing.

As already said if you look in the manual for the car it will tell you what oil specs are the minimum.

hi guys! it's my first post here, i am the owner of a grey fabia, 1,4 75 hp, engine code BKY, 15k , 2007, three days ago i made the oil change, i use Aral 5 W 40, super tronic, made in germany, it requires the VW specifications 502.00 and 505.00. I'm gonna keep this oil 10 maybe 15 k.

That should be fine mate.

Cheers

Guy.

Hi Guys,

Just to clarify that VW 505.01 standard does not include fully synthetic oils only.

These are in fact semi-syntetic oils.

However, some manufacturers have exceeded these standards currently and you should be able to find some of these.

Normally the fully syntetic oil is much more stable over time. I don't think semi syntetic oil will protect the engine good enough for 10 K miles in a sporty behavior or in a city driving.

I would go for fully syntetic.

:confused:

Octy II 140 hp 2.0 TDI-PD (without DPF)

The handbook says 505.01 or 507.00 either. Looks like 507.00 will be an overkill.

I'm wondering however if there will be some benefit of what Castrol have said for their "EDGE" product

- fuel economy

- clearer engine

- lower SAPS

Castrol 507.00 oil check here:

Engine Oil and Lubricants Castrol UK - Castrol EDGE 5W-30

however there is also Castrol EDGE 505.01

Engine Oil and Lubricants Castrol UK - Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40

Looks like that there is nothing changed but the label from the older TXT 505.01

Does anyone has some thoughts on this

Hi Guys,

Just to clarify that VW 505.01 standard does not include fully synthetic oils only.

These are in fact semi-syntetic oils.

However, some manufacturers have exceeded these standards currently and you should be able to find some of these.

Normally the fully syntetic oil is much more stable over time. I don't think semi syntetic oil will protect the engine good enough for 10 K miles in a sporty behavior or in a city driving.

I would go for fully syntetic.

Not quite sure what you mean, VW505.01 oils tend to be 5w-40 with the odd 10w-40 around. These are classed as synthetic but as you say are mineral based, but not semi synthetic... They are slightly different yet again

Many synthetics are out there in fact mineral based. These are called hydrocracked mineral oils and are legally sold as synthetic as they have been modified on a molecular level, VW505.01 oils tend to fall into this catagory. This is becasue the PD engine requires very strong polymors and a good additive pack but is not fussy on base stock so modified mineral will do as long as it is changed every 10,000 miles or once a year.

When you get into longlife oils you start looking at genuine PAO based synthetics.

On a side note SOME performance synthetics far exceed both base stock and additive pack requirments of the PD engine so these are also suitable but do not carry the VW505.01 approval so are used at owners own risk.

I use the Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 in my PD engine.

Cheers

Guy.