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So based on the lack of detailed hard facts in the OP's original post and no follow up, guessing that this was just a bit of a red-herring thread to stir up yet another line of discussion on oil issue??!

Oh well, would be interesting though to hear if anyone else has heard of anything different to the fixes already being tried/rumoured by Skoda.

Andy.

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Isn't that standard with fabias and lots of other cars/manufacturers?!

Andy

ive bought a new fabia every 2 years in the past 8 and this is the first time had oil :happy:

I won't know for certain until I get to 15,000 miles but I used about 4l in 9.5k ish, done 12k now and I've put in another litre. Think it's slightly better. I'm saying ish because I don't know exactly. I'll be topping up with the same oil it's had for it's service until the next service and carry on.

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I will be back to work tomorrow so I will ring again and ask what the exact fix is. My fabia Vrs which I am waiting for is a company car and I was also assured by the leasing company that there was a fix, but this could just be talk to get the sale :-(

Another thing to consider is that the recommended oil (5W30) is a low viscosity oil i.e. it doesn't seal very well at high temps and twoncharged unit does produce high temps and very high charge pressures. I think it'd be worth trying a more viscous oil, something like this Castrol Edge Sport 5W40 http://castroledge.com/oil-range/5w-40 or 10W60 , http://castroledge.com/oil-range/10w-60 , http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-717-castrol-edge-sport-10w-60-fully-synthetic-engine-oil.aspx .

10W60 is for high performance engines and I'd risk an opinion that 1.4TSi twin charged engine is one.

I use 5W40 in mine

Sy, have you tried that 10W60? I used it for 4-stroke karting as found it gives really good cylinder pressures.

Hi guys bought a brand new fabia vrs in Australia and have just done 3000 km and have used over 4 litres of oil. I had the car for a week and had to get it towed back to dealer under advice and direction of Skoda assist. They said no oil what s o ever . Have sent many emails to Skoda Australia with not one response. I did a survey and was told from company that did it that VW Germany would make contact. Still nothing. M car car goe in for oil breather next week but m really concerned damage is already done . I can not believe that a company like this would disrespect there buyers like this. I get the same message from dealer that it is normal for it to burn oil. But when I took it in again for the 3rd time was told about the breather issue.

So happy to find u guys.

Cheers Coops

Sy, have you tried that 10W60? I used it for 4-stroke karting as found it gives really good cylinder pressures.

Unless I knew for sure I would be frightened it might start blowing oil seals. I have used 5W30 from new and mine has used 4lts in 5000 miles so maybe I should try 5w40 and see if it makes a difference.

It is not normal and upon reading through reams of posts here you will get enough info to get back to them and ask for immediate action to be taken. Do not let them fob you off with " it will get better". It may and it may not. With such a high usage the likelihood it will get better is small...

Unless I knew for sure I would be frightened it might start blowing oil seals. I have used 5W30 from new and mine has used 4lts in 5000 miles so maybe I should try 5w40 and see if it makes a difference.

It will blow your oil seals only when you overfill. More viscous oil may potentially marginally increase fuel usage, but i think your driving style, tyre pressures and amount of junk you carry in your boot would make such a difference negligible. It just provides better seal between rings and the bores at high temps.

I'd venture a guess that due to oil pump construction (rather complicated variable geometry design producing different oil pressure dependant on the need or something) it iwll not have any issues.

http://www.kewengine...y_explained.htm

5w/30 really is fine in the UK for temps between -20 celcius & 35 celcius or there abouts.

You could use a better quality Oil than the Quantum that you might get from a Skoda Service,

'Castrol Edge' & 'Mobile 1' 5w/30 might have your normal running temp down a few degrees, as will other good oils.

but

i can not see why you want to go reducing your 'High Oil Usage', if you have that, by using different oil from the recommended,

before Skoda get your car right & before the warranty is out.

Get them to have the engine performing correctly & then do what you want after that, or when out of warranty. JMO.

george

PS,

if you have a 'Home Bargains' store near you,

Castrol Edge '5w / 40' Fully synthetic is £5.99 a litre just now.

^^ Agreed, first get it sorted properly using the 5W30 oil.

Great link George, in library now :)

It is not normal and upon reading through reams of posts here you will get enough info to get back to them and ask for immediate action to be taken. Do not let them fob you off with " it will get better". It may and it may not. With such a high usage the likelihood it will get better is small...

My vRS used 7 litres of oil over the first 9,000 miles. It has now used close to 1 litre over the last 1000 miles. Phil at Skoda UK expects mine to get worse rather than better on the evidence of others. Therefore I will be speaking to the service manager at my local dealer to consider the next step. I haven't yet heard if anyone has seen an improvement in their oil consumption after the oil breather fix.

Or you could just try looking here;

http://www.briskoda....tions-answered/

It is the second pinned item in General Maintenace

Para 14,in this context,is interesting.

I emailed SUK yesterday, mentioning my concerns about VW 1.4 TSI oil consumption issues.

I got a call today from SUK and the girl said that while there may have been a "few" problems in the past, a recent change to the engine has fixed the problem. This will be on all "new" cars. Whatever that means.

Very vague, couldn't get any more specific detail.

Lot ot talk a while back about a revised 1.4 TSI Twincharger engine with modified internals and presumably the latest breather pipe. Revised engine had a new engine code CTHE. Would be interesting to check the engine code on VRS's now being delivered. I would guess the facelift Ibiza Cupra would have the latest engine,but it's not on sale yet.

So if you've got a new VRS, what's your engine code ??

Lot ot talk a while back about a revised 1.4 TSI Twincharger engine with modified internals and presumably the latest breather pipe. Revised engine had a new engine code CTHE. Would be interesting to check the engine code on VRS's now being delivered. I would guess the facelift Ibiza Cupra would have the latest engine,but it's not on sale yet.

So if you've got a new VRS, what's your engine code ??

Where did you get that info from If you don't mind divulging?

Lot ot talk a while back about a revised 1.4 TSI Twincharger engine with modified internals and presumably the latest breather pipe. Revised engine had a new engine code CTHE. Would be interesting to check the engine code on VRS's now being delivered. I would guess the facelift Ibiza Cupra would have the latest engine,but it's not on sale yet.

So if you've got a new VRS, what's your engine code ??

Car being built week of 5th November. Delivery end of November.

Hi guys Coops from Australia

Had the breather pipe mod yesterday after massive issues. She has done 3400 km now. It was only supposed to be in for 5 hours but got a call from Skoda to say that there was issues downloading new software. My first impression after getting it back a day and half later was wow how much power is back . My only guess was there must be oil pressure issues before the mod. After 2 months and 3 letters to Skoda and 2 surveys funny enough I got an email from VW Australia apologising and expressing disappointment with the countless issues science buying the car not long back. They have asked me to contact them as they are happy to compensate I think but in there words come to an amicable resolution. If u have not read my posts I must tell u that there car had no oil in it and that was confirmed by Skoda assist who showed me the oil dip stick and you could not see a trace of oil. It was like it was brand new of the shelf. That bad that they refused to drive it on to tow truck to take back to dealer. I had it less than a week. So from there till now close to 4 litres of oil. I drive it modest and don't trash it. I would love some advice in regards to what you would think would be reasonable compensation not in terms of cash but ? Me don't no. Skoda assist also said that there would have to be possible engine damage, but like all car dealers and service providers, of course of been fobbed of and told now there is no issue. I'm not a mechanic but no a bit any help would be great.

Cheers Coops

Hi Coops.

In UK there is an Act Parliament regulating such matters. You need to look at it, read up comments and case law and write back to them accordingly. I'd personally require a new engine to be put in as an absolute minimum but would start from strenuously demanding a new car as the one they sold you was not fit for purpose, caused you no end of stress and could have resulted in an accident if the motor seized. You may copy all that to Ozzie equivalent of trading standard, motoring press, etc. make a big fuss but be polite end understanding while not budging for a milimeter! Car salesmen job is to drive a hard bargain and you need to be harder. There is enough evidence around that this is not one off accidental dud unit and that VAG have problem, are aware of it and still letting motors like that to be installed in customer cars.

Also ask them to provide in writing the procedures they have implemented to avoid releasing cars like that to the market. If they tell you they are entitled to have a chance of repairing the car tell them that of course they do and they may do it in their own time at their leisure but not using you as a test case for customer patience. Tell them you did not buy a development car but fully functioning motor vehicle and you have right to receive it. This is a massive failure of the most important component of the car and as such renders it unusable

George here is good at getting SUK to stand up, take notice and cough up :D.

I need to start keeping a better eye on mine - 1 litre in the first 6000 or so; 2 more litres in the following 4000 miles. Just to think - another litre and its already an oil change... Last car I had with this thirst for oil used to leave a blue cloud everywhere!

Have changed to 5W40 now - easier to find at 11pm or 6am which is normally when the low oil light comes on...

Thanks mate so much appreciated

It's going to be hard to word . I'm not the best at this stuff. Any other ideas please shoot them my way I have to call them back tomorrow arvo.

Thanks champ

Jabozuma

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Hi Coops.

In UK there is an Act Parliament regulating such matters. You need to look at it, read up comments and case law and write back to them accordingly. I'd personally require a new engine to be put in as an absolute minimum but would start from strenuously demanding a new car as the one they sold you was not fit for purpose, caused you no end of stress and could have resulted in an accident if the motor seized. You may copy all that to Ozzie equivalent of trading standard, motoring press, etc. make a big fuss but be polite end understanding while not budging for a milimeter! Car salesmen job is to drive a hard bargain and you need to be harder. There is enough evidence around that this is not one off accidental dud unit and that VAG have problem, are aware of it and still letting motors like that to be installed in customer cars.

Also ask them to provide in writing the procedures they have implemented to avoid releasing cars like that to the market. If they tell you they are entitled to have a chance of repairing the car tell them that of course they do and they may do it in their own time at their leisure but not using you as a test case for customer patience. Tell them you did not buy a development car but fully functioning motor vehicle and you have right to receive it. This is a massive failure of the most important component of the car and as such renders it unusable

George here is good at getting SUK to stand up, take notice and cough up .

I hope ladies are welcome here. I've got an 11 plate vrs and mines under investigation by Skoda. I've had a new engine after 5000 miles as I was told this should correct this problem but it's still drinking oil and I'm forever back at the garage. Has anyone else had the same problem after a new engine and if so what happened next?

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