What I meant was an address of the factory which makes the motors in Germany, not UK's HQ.

OK, decided to have a nosey, and found it, will be writing soon

http://www.volkswagen-sachsen.de/geschaeftsfuehrung/biografie/hans_joachim_rothenpieler.php'>http://www.volkswagen-sachsen.de/geschaeftsfuehrung/biografie/hans_joachim_rothenpieler.php

Herr Rothenpieler is The Big Cheese at Motorenwerk Chemnitz as well as being the chief technical officer

The main Website: http://www.volkswagen-sachsen.de/

A couple of vids of our engines being build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHETVJmAZvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6dPY3GaMCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRNsbWldSY

Hi guys been a while and in discussions with VW my god what a waste of time they refused any of my suggestions. So from here it is on letters to all magazines detailing the deceitful practice of the sales team at Skoda for disclosing the oil consumption and that the car had no oil in and was missed on per delivery checks . VW Australia are so arrogant and simply useless . U explain politely that if someone said to u by this brand new car it will burn oil u will run out of oil u will have to bring it in on many occasions it will get towed u will be with out a car for days . I think u would not by the car . But they gave made me feel like such a f..... Fool. So I hope if I make contact with your side of the world they might treat it seriously as it is a big deal to me that the car has no sustained engine damage. Cheers coops from down under

Hi Guys, Just thought I would post just coming up to 1.2K miles. Checked my oil levels yesterday, and had to put in 0.5ltr. Hopefully this isn't signs of another oil burning VRS.

Make sure you check after the engine's reached operating temps, turn the motor off on flat surface, wait 5-10 mins and then check. Try doing it at the same place in the same way to have a reliable info. 0/5l in 1.2k miles is well within spec and it doesn't look as bad as the others here so fingers crossed. Keep monitoring it and make a record, including dated photographic evidence to help you out with an potential warranty issues.

Welcome to the forums

It appears that the oil breather modification did not fix the problem on my car. I've had the worst ever rate of oil usage following the 'fix', which works out at less than 1000 km per litre. I've spoken to Skoda customer services and it is likely that I am now looking at a replacement engine. However, they cannot offer a new engine but rather a factory exchange unit (refurbished engine). Skoda will only replace with a new unit if the car is less than one month old or has done less than 1000 miles, or if they have no exchange engines available. Therefore it is likely to be another CAVE engine, which could be prone to the same problem, rather than the latest CTHE unit. Not happy

Well, that is crap as it is catch 22 here. You will not have the engine exchange approved before the oil usage is diagnosed and that takes more than a month!!!

I say b00lock$! Write to them asking to stop taking a pi$$ as what they say makes no sense whatsoever!

Big Sheep

Do not give up. I am currently trialling the breather kit after a new engine, so reading your post does not fill me with confidence. Write to Skoda who are based in Sheffield and persist. (I had a new engine on a car that had done 5000 miles). I am not letting this one lie as its a Trading Standards issue in my eyes, they sold you a car which is not fit for purpose! Its no different to taking a shirt back thats faulty.

James,

For your sake I really hope you car is ok.

All,

I don't admit to knowing about cars so this might sound daft but is there any chance the car could be too high powered for a 1.4L engine?

I thnk what you are asking about is whether such a small 1.4l engine isn't producing too much power for its size and therefore failing?

I do not think so. This engine can safely cope with 250bhp with stock internals (con rods, pistons, valve train etc).

Look here:

http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/1_14.php

http://www.enginetechnologyinternational.com/news.php?NewsID=13482

I think it already has four more of them so...

I just wondered if a 1.4 could cope with 180bhp that was all.... I did say I didn't know that much about cars!!

I just wondered if a 1.4 could cope with 180bhp that was all.... I did say I didn't know that much about cars!!

For somebody who says that doesn't know much about cars you seem to have a pretty good "instinctive" grasp of the principles :clap: .

With all the problems I am having with my car I am starting to learn about them I must say!

I think this is what this forum is for really, learning new things, discussing ideas (without being flamed {too much} ) and having some fun along the way

Vicky, did you manage to determine that you really did get a brand new engine rather than a factory rebuilt exchange unit? Did you also manage to find out the engine number in the end? I do hope that the oil breather modification works on your car (Skoda UK were very surprised when I told them in my case the fix doesn't appear to have worked).

I find that when I'm talking to Skoda UK all the answers I receive are almost scripted and they won't discuss technical detail. I seldom get anything back in writing, just phone calls. My local dealership are very helpful even though I purchased the car elsewhere and are trying their best to help. I am sure that we would all like more information as to what causes the consumption issue and why VW recently revised the engine.

What amount of warranty extension should be expected after an engine replacement?

Hi Big Sheep,

Apparently I had a brand new engine straight off the factory line which would have had the old engine number stamped on to it. To see the engine number requires getting under the gearbox!!!! It sounds very dodgy to me, although I did get it in writing from them that this was the case. The service guy at my local garage has been absolutely fantastic about things and has done everything he can to help. Its a shame Skoda UK haven't been as accomodating as him, as it would have been a lot cheaper to return the car than have all the work done to it. If this oil breather kit doesn't work I will be taking things up with Trading Standards and returning it, which is something I really don't want to do. As for warranty I haven't even discussed that with them. This was my second vrs after owning the original one with no problems so I'm shocked this car has so many problems.

Vicky, I don't think you will find it that easy just to dump it back to them if you haven't already contacted trading standards. I contacted Trading standards just after the breather fix failed. The advice i got from trading standards was to write to the dealer quoting the sale of goods act 1979 giving then one last attempt to fix the problem or i would then be contacting the dealer for a refund or like for like replacement. Mine has been in to the dealer once for oil consumption prior to me contacting trading standards.

Type up a letter and send it recorded delivery giving 7- 14 days for a response. My dealer responded quickly and a new engine is being fitted. I realize you have already had a new engine so if i were you i would log your concerns with trading standards and quote their reference in any correspondence etc. I also made skoda customer services aware of my intentions although my contract is with the dealer.

You may find you have a little bit more clout if you paid for the vehicle outright and not by some HP scheme. This was one of the first things Trading standards asked me how i paid for the vehicle and fortunately i paid cash. Good luck anyway.

If the new engine is flawed then back to the Octavia i go.

Just checked the oil after doing only 200 miles with the new breather and already half way down the dipstick. I don't think it will last till 500 miles when it goes back to be checked. :(

Well I've not been on here for a while and thought I'd give you an update of where I am relating to my awful oil usage.

I have had the first oil consumption test in October which it failed and have had the replacement pipe fitted. That was a waste of time and my extrapolated oil usage by the garage for the second oil consumption test was 0.81 litres per 1000km where the maximum allowed is supposed to be half a litre in 1000km. Why they are working in kilometres in the UK heaven only knows.

I have just had my second year service to keep it in warranty and I have now contacted Skoda UK and then written to the dealer rejecting the vehicle. I have been told that due to the age of the vehicle and so having two years use out of it, I will have to pay something towards the replacement of the vehicle to get a new one.

Not heard yet how much this figure is so watch this space. I intend to get another Fabia VRS as I think it is otherwise an excellent vehicle and this time will change from the bright green to the more subtle blue.

I have covered only 15500 miles in the two years I have had it and I am on my 6th, 4.5 litre bottle of oil. It will be interesting to see how Skoda Uk and the dealer, deal with this vehicle rejection/replacement.

Just checked the oil after doing only 200 miles with the new breather and already half way down the dipstick. I don't think it will last till 500 miles when it goes back to be checked. :(

You seem to be in the same situation as me. Please talk to Phil at Skoda UK customer services. He doesn't appear to have got a widespread response yet that the new breather isn't working. Has anybody found it to be successful??

I've just received some advice from motoring agony aunt 'Honest John'. He agrees we should accept a replacement engine but it may not be possible to insist on the latest upgraded engine. If the replacement engine turns out to have the same problem we have grounds to ask for the car to be exchanged.

I hope skoda find a solution..... my guess is poor parts supply for the engine manufacture.....

just to re-iterate... I'm now on 41,000 miles, and dont use a drop between services.... it MUST be an anomoly that they cant figure out, my car has a hard life, I wring its neck, it gets driven by learners (footbrake off in "D" with the handbrake on ect) its been round the 'ring' .....

I'm trying to lift the rear wheel...

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honestly the best car I've ever had... If there is no alternative next year (when its 3 years old and the warrenty runs out) I may even pay for a warrantry and keep it! its that good!

I feel for you guys/girls with the problems.... surely there must be a fix. If i were Skoda, and clutching at staws (which they obviously are) i would simply replace the engine... chances are the next engine will be like mine, faultless.....

Sharkrider you may have just hit on the fix! Skoda issued complimentary track day vouchers! ;-)

Mine is also ragged on a daily basis and no oil useage....

Oh how I hate both of you and your non oil drinking engines

There does seem to be something in this 'drive it like you stole it approach'. I certainly did not baby mine from day one (I was amazed how easily it made three figure speeds) but I was not 'bouncing it off the redline' at the first motorway slip road. Wish I had now, it couldn't of hurt......

I read reams about running in and ALL engine builders agree - first 50 miles are absolutely crucial. I made it my aim to make it right and was making max cylinder pressure at the lowest revs from the moment I left the dealers, all in manual. After 300 miles and when I got the oil to 90C I redlined her through all gears for the first time - she nicely passed the test. At 1000 miles not a drop.

So yes, it is not mass production fault but a fluke, bad batch, something really weird and they either know perfectly well what it is and having made the sums decided to keep going through the motions or they are genuinely baffled. Needless to say I do not believe the latter and strongly believe in the former :(

Whilst the breaking in method may help (anecdotal evidence suggests hard use is best, but there are examples of the opposite...), it's got to be a manufacturing and/or design flaw somewhere. Funnily enough, I'm sure most of us would take a slight drop in fuel consumption if it guaranteed "normal" oil use (ie almost nothing between services), even though it would probably cost far more money than topping up oil.

Edited 27 November, 201213 yr by OzFabia

I didn't have the pleasure of controlling the first 50 miles; it was delivered (up a Motorway) by the dealer and had 74 miles on it by the time I got the keys.

I need to check the oil level again tonight but note that the low oil light hasn't come on in almost 4000 miles now...BUT it's got a litre of Edge 5W40 in its bowels at the moment (no 5W30 at Tescos garage at 10pm when I needed some)...