I've had my 2 wheel drive CR110 Yeti since June this year and it now has about 18000 miles on it. It seems to have a tendancy to stall, when previous cars I have owned with diesel engines haven't. I don't drive the Yeti any differently from any of the others, 2 Fabias (1.9 and 1.4), an Octavia(1.9) and a BMW 320D. Is this a 'feature' of the CR engine or is there a possible problem?

Chris

I can still stall mine ...unless you give it a quick blip on the throttle before moving away .....and mine has a little bit more power than a normal 110

You've had your's FOUR months and already done 18000 miles...........................WOW.

All cars are different, as as the diesels have more 'torque' then they will need more revs for 'bighting point'

Wait a few days before going to the dealer, as this may be just a 'characteristic' of the Yeti and engine variant. :yes:

Unless someone else knows better. :think:

Try using a few more revs.

I think one of the problems is that the engine is so quiet that people don't realise how "slow" the engine is going.

Moving on from a petrol car I had a Ford when they introduced the 2.0 130 common rail engines back in 2002 and I used to stall that quite a lot initially, 10 years later and having run both 1.6CR and 2.0CR VAG units I would say that they have the same lower down characteristics as my old Ford did. I've never driven a PD VAG unit so cant really compare them.

You've had your's FOUR months and already done 18000 miles...........................WOW.

I can only think op bought it secondhand or added a naught!! If not he must live in it

I do tend to stall mine a reasonable amount, more often at speed though, it is a bit worrying when travelling at 30mph... I'm getting better now though. Saying that, this is my first diesel, and have only ever driven diesel van's and 4x4's for work previously.

I think it's adjusting your driving style for the engine, i tend to keep my eyes on the rev's a lot more

I stalled my 140 a few times when I first got it, largely down to me not being quite used to the engine's characteristics after my (petrol) Scooby. I managed to stall it once last week, but that was the first time in months so I put that down to a random brain fart on my part.

I do sometimes notice a slight hesitation in the process of pulling out at junctions ie moving off & turning at the same time. I think maybe that could have been a contributory factor, until I got used to it. There's a thread about it here - several others have reported noticing it.

I've stalled my 170 more times in four months than the first year of having the Octy. Did it again this morning pulling out at a busy roundabout :( I think it's down to not having a heavy enough right foot(!), as if I don't pay attention the speed has a tendency to drop while driving along. As the engine is so quiet at low revs it's easy to get it too low, given it can idle as low as 700rpm.

Thanks for the feed back. For the information of the few, I did buy it used, it's a 10 plate.

I do tend to stall mine a reasonable amount, more often at speed though, it is a bit worrying when travelling at 30mph

Out of interest, how do you stall at 30mph? Maybe I've been lucky but I don't recall stalling any car I've even driven other than by insufficient berries when moving away from rest. I imagine that trying to change in to too high a gear would do it when you're on the move, if you don't realise your mistake and dip the clutch in time. My 140 will pull 5th at 30mph, albeit not entirely happily if there's any kind of an incline involved. I imagine I could stall it by inadvertently selecting 6th instead of 4th but I don't fancy trying!

I've also stalled my 170 more than any other car I have owned - and I initially put it down to have driven automatics for the previous 15 years but it seems it's fairly common place.

Is it to do with the dual mass flywheel - is it lighter?

Having said that, when in slow traffic I have played about at, and been successful at, pulling away with no throttle - just very careful use of the clutch - and you can continue through the gears with no throttle as well. Due the electronic engine management I guess.

Edited 19 October, 201213 yr by bgw

I've also stalled my 170 more than any other car I have owned - and I initially put it down to have driven automatics for the previous 15 years but it seems it's fairly common place.

Is it to do with the dual mass flywheel - is it lighter?

Having said that, when in slow traffic I have played about at, and been successful at, pulling away with no throttle - just very careful use of the clutch - and you can continue through the gears with no throttle as well. Due the electronic engine management I guess.

Yup, I do that, also did the same in every oil burner I've owned in the last 10 years, they are good that way, modern ones more so with the anti stall but as you say you have to be very easy on the clutch. Just pulling away when you are used to a non CR engine that they seem to be easier to stall.

Out of interest, how do you stall at 30mph? Maybe I've been lucky but I don't recall stalling any car I've even driven other than by insufficient berries when moving away from rest.

I have nearly stalled the engine when coming to a stop and not changing down so that at about 15 mph in 6th. the engine will jerk about and nearly stall. In a petrol car you can get away with that.

Having said that, when in slow traffic I have played about at, and been successful at, pulling away with no throttle - just very careful use of the clutch - and you can continue through the gears with no throttle as well. Due the electronic engine management I guess.

My first Yeti with the older generation CBDB 140 CR motor, appeared to be prone to stalling but the later CFHF in the 110 4x4 I've only stalled once or maybe twice in 21k and down to pure operator error

The engine has an anti-stall which will let you move in slow traffic in 1st and 2nd without using any accelerator.

TP

I have nearly stalled the engine when coming to a stop and not changing down so that at about 15 mph in 6th. the engine will jerk about and nearly stall. In a petrol car you can get away with that.

Yet another post from a nerdy old g*t

I can't think of anything worse to do an engine than run it down in 6th to 15 mph :wonder:

Not only will the DMF be strained, but the crank/big end bearings will be subjected to high pressure impulse loadings which will do it no good in the long run.

Possibly a petrol engine will fare less well, as diesels are generally built more robustly to cater for the much increased compression ratios in a diesel.

Apologies if this comes over as a bit strong, but I "shudder" everytime I think about it - just friendly comment

Yet another post from a nerdy old g*t :sweat:Apologies if this comes over as a bit strong, but I "shudder" everytime I think about it - just friendly comment

Cheeky B------d! I judge your engineering knowledge is nil! If you think that is going to overload the big-ends!

Cheeky B------d! I judge your engineering knowledge is nil! If you think that is going to overload the big-ends!

Oh dear, the "nerdy old g*t was me" - such is the power of the interwebby to enable misconstrued remarks

I was commenting, as a nerdy old git , in that I'm old enough to have re-built enough rally engines/gear boxes and HGV engines to think I knew something about mechanical things.

I guess you'll never know the extent of my mechanical knowledge, nor me yours - I was only politely explaining what I think, and still think.

Oh dear, the "nerdy old g*t was me" - such is the power of the interwebby to enable misconstrued remarks

OK sorry! However I still don't think that would bother the bearings - I would be more worried about the DMF - that to me is a bit of a source of trouble when an engine is stuttering at low revs. A typical petrol engine at 15 in top might be doing about 600 rpm and on a closed throttle would be no bother but the Yeti diesel doesn't like it at all!

I have rebuilt my share of old engines but probaly not as many as you.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I can't believe what I've been reading. Petrol engines at 15mph in "top" ( 5th/6th ) I assume, and running ok????? Letting an engine drop to 15mph in 6th when slowing down!!!!! You dont have to watch rpm or the little gear indicator number on the dash, listen to the engine, if you are slowing down you should at some point have been changing down a few gears ( autos do it for you ) It's the opposite of getting moving, you don't keep your foot down in first gear until you can't go any faster before changing up. Dear me, I thought there were lots of experienced drivers on this Yeti forum, seems not.

Edited 21 October, 201213 yr by Anzio

if you are slowing down you should at some point have been changing down a few gears

Oh! You really should keep up with modern techniques - we are not supposed to use the gears to slow down, these days we must use the brakes!

That's complete rubbish. If you just brake when in 5th/6th gear when slowing down you are bound to stall at some point. You can slow a vehicle down just by changing down and not touching the brakes. Experience is what counts, not modern techniques.

I was taught to always be in the correct gear for the prevailing traffic conditions. As such I always use the gearbox when slowing down and as a result I can move away quickly when the road is clear.

I was also told to think of the brake pedal as a tap in the fuel tank that opens to release the fuel you have wasted getting to a speed where you then HAVE to brake, for example; accelerating hard and then braking between traffic lights.

Fred

Simple solution - drive an automatic. You never stall, are always in (pretty much) the correct gear - and no way could you end up doing 15 mph in 6th!

At the risk of being annoying by stating the obvious (to me ), driving needs a modicum of mechanical sympathy - you either have or you don't.

Engines like to be in their comfort zone - normally humming along with little stress. Yes I know F1 engines can go to 18000 1/min, and ships diesels go at only ? 1/min, but horses for courses.

Each to their own I guess