But the problem with that is why should you have to drive it like you stole it just to stop it burning oil? You should be able to just drive it however you want, like you can with other cars from new.

I dont think there is a correlation tbh. There seems to be a good mixture of run in methods on cars with oil issues. I think its purely just a pot luck basis

Sorry to hear your engine developed the 2-stroke disease at this point in its life... You will get it sorted no doubt about it. SUK has no problems now with authorisation of this type of warranty work as others said and experienced here, it's just the pain of going through the motions...

I am yet to hear of an oil thirst problem from members here who had a running in "programme" and it is certainly not about trashing the nuts out of it, quite the contrary .

There will be no recall as this is not a safety related issue. It is much cheaper and without the loss of public image to deal with the problem the way they do it now. The recognition of the problem is apparent as the whole process is now widely known "routine" and dealers know exactly what to do.

Chemnitz plant is churning out (data from 2010-2011) 75-76k twincharger units per year and this the only fab doing them in Europe / World - not sure if Chinese started making them. They make DSG boxes and had a massive fail not such a long time ago having to recall 500k cars due to quality issues, not the design.

As for why this motor develops such problems theories are ripe...

Don't know if its just the 180/185PS units affected or not? Twincharger used in virtually all VAG products (with manual gearboxes in some cases) in 150, 160 and 170PS versions (Golf, Scirocco, Tiguan, Touran, Passat, Ibiza FR that I can think of at the moment).

From an outsider's point of view, not having owned a vRS - how have they been able to get away selling a vehicle for so long with such fundamental issues, and are they common across the VAG family?

Common in this platform - polo, Ibiza, fabia and Audi.

Wouldn't risk a used one without warranty!

Reminiscent of K-series and head gasket munching in higher states of tune...not suggesting any link, just interesting.

Look how bad a press they got - K-series are pretty good units IMHO, but get one that hasn't been looked after and you would always worry if it was about to go pop.

In a few years, will the twincharger have a similar legacy...?

Yeah, I've got one of those too in my kit car . I must be a sucker for punishment. At least it never uses any oil. The 1.8 VVC K-series was a brilliant, if flawed piece of design, and not helped by penny pinching in production (plastic dowels, etc.). I love driving a light weight car with the VVC on song. The vRS is nearly, but not quite as much fun.

Fit stiffer valve springs to the twincharger and it will turn another 500-1k rpm if no harmonics issue in the crank shaft - that'd sing nicely !

K series is a victim of circumstance - cracking engine in its original design home (small car, FWD, 1.1 and 1.4) but let down by neglect (sometimes through ignorance). Add in the fact Rover was cash strapped and tried to cut corners in production (accountants vs engineers - the age old story) plus that poor block was stretched to 1.6 and 1.8 - well beyond what it was designed as. Plastic dowels were a bad idea but came at the same time where they were starting to get lax on quality.

Have a read - worth it. http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/kingk.html

Just by reading this forum I wonder why anyone would risk buying a Mk2 vRS? It's almost like playing russian roulette, ok you may get a one that doesn't use any oil, on the other hand you could be arguing with the dealer for months and months trying to get a resolution.

Are VAG reembursing people for the excessive oil that is being used?

They will do when asked nicely.

People do play Russian Roulette, because the kick can be so good.

With a vRS, at least you have the safety net while under warranty, after that expires its anybodies guess.

Perhaps its less final taking the chance & getting kicks in the Twincharger.

http://dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/johnstone-man-dies-after-allegedly-1743495

george

Hence me buying 5 years warranty

Hence me buying 5 years warranty

Same here,and I would not have done that if I hadn't read about the problems of the engine on this very forum,so thanks to Briskoda.

So as things stand I will sell with a chunk of warranty left which I hope will give it a reasonable residual value...but,you never know,in 2/3 years time the current issues may all be sorted.

I decided I would purchase an extended warranty after three years if I decide to keep the car. Might cost a bit more that way but unsure I would keep for 5 years

?? How many miles have others with CTHE engines done already.?

george

6500 miles since new CTHE engine fitted... No issues to report

still running the CAVE engine after breather mod and remap, usage is still prominent but less than before, when used on the track no oil was used, when short journeys are made then the engine uses oil.

Evil Miyagi,

Did they change your V5 or Service book, or how do you know they delivered a CTHE engine

& not a CAVE?

george

I had the luck of a new engine dropping into my VRS after extreme high oil usage, engine bores scored, bottom end knocking and head gasket gone on what ever engine was dropped into the 2010 model. Is there an engine code on the engine itself to see what they put in?

I had a new CTHE engine delivered, I saw the crate.

My service book has been updated

I had similar issues on a clio rsi and it turned out to be the head gasket.

Hope you get this sorted. Certainly is food for thought on going small capacity with twin chargers.....

Page 2 for the engine details, but in Italian.

http://www.m.vagoc.c...10073&showall=1

Makes me smile to think back to when the vRS 1.4 180 was first released and those that suggested tuning wasn't a good plan due to it being "already highly strung" were mocked. Now it seems we've come full circle and most people feel that modding it is asking for trouble lol

Buying one is asking for trouble.

Can't wait to get shot of mines tbh. Every time I drive it I feel like it might explode. It's got a lumpy idle now, and I've had a few more errors flag up. Low barometric pressure in some sensor. Code P107 I think it was.

Anyway, going to look and see what the stealers say about ending my PCP early. Want rid of it before it melts.

I had the luck of a new engine dropping into my VRS after extreme high oil usage, engine bores scored, bottom end knocking and head gasket gone on what ever engine was dropped into the 2010 model. Is there an engine code on the engine itself to see what they put in?

Would you mind providing a little more detail plz.

What mileage was the motor when replaced?

Did they explain what happened and why it failed?

Makes me smile to think back to when the vRS 1.4 180 was first released and those that suggested tuning wasn't a good plan due to it being "already highly strung" were mocked. Now it seems we've come full circle and most people feel that modding it is asking for trouble lol

I wasn't on the forum then but it's surely common sense that any small engine producing a high power output will have little safety margin for further tuning.

On the other hand it seems reasonable nowadays to expect almost total engine reliability up to 100k and more if maintained properly ...from any manufacturer.

With what we know now anyone risking losing the Skoda warranty is a brave man indeed.

I for one will have to admit that I've been majorly put off tuning my car after all the problems I've had.

I've added the ITG intake and will be shortly be adding the forge intercooler, but I feel (could be wrong) that these parts will help the engine rather than cause problems.