very upset,angry, please dont open if you dont like blood , need to share this with someone before i explode

[Harvey1978]

the police arnt going to take action and nither can the rspca all because the human injurys aint bad enough

That's f*kin ridiculous, has someone got to be killed before they'll act?

[7029bob]

So good to hear she's on the mend .She certainly looks as if she's being spoilt and rightly so.

[Loz]

It wouldn't surprise me if the owners of the dogs are known to the police and the Lady officer is scared of going to their property so trying to fob you off. We have a similar thing in that a couple have just moved in on our street (quiet street mainly pensioners) with a pitbull / mastiff cross breed they were raided by undercover police within the first week of moving in so they are known to the police. The Man drives a different high priced vehicle everyday Range Rover / Audi A5 etc. He lets this Pitbull type roam the close unatended and urinate on everyones garden. I contacted the police as this thing is defo covered by the dangerous dogs act and ran at me while i was washing the car if he hadn't shouted it back it would have bit me because its fur was up at the back of its neck. luckily i had an extended reach Wrench and lump hammer in my hand at the time so it would have come off worse but i fear for my wife when shes getting the kids out of our car and im not there, the dog is much bigger than my 4 year old girl. The police said basically if its not yet bit me or the family there is nothing they can do. Its very shocking looking at the photos you posted and i really feel for you but please don't give up with the case and keep persuing it. Its sounds to me as you have a very strong case and even if you don't continue for youself do it for your neighbours because i can imagine them dogs will do it again and maybe a kid next time.

If its an ACTUAL pitbull then your wrench would not do much. When they lock on they release something into their blood which anesthetises them so they can be beaten and ripped to shreds and not feel it. It's what they are bred for. I've heard that an Alsatian can bite with 500 pounds per sq inch, but a pitbull is 2500!!! Actual killing machines.

[4wheel]

Many years ago our minature Daschund was mauled in the same way.I recall being able to see the tendons and internal bits.I slept on the floor with him for three days and carried him outside to do what he had to do.The thing is that he survived and lived to the ripe old age of 16. My point is that dogs are tough and with care can make a complete recovery as I am sure yours will.So hang in there buddy,once the shock has subsided and you can think clearly you will be able to sort those scum out next door and motivate the police to do there duty.Sincerely hope all goes well.

[skud vrs]

If you know these people you should name and shame. At least people would know not to walk there dogs or let the kids play by there house.

The police really need to up there game. I would also approach the media.

Glad to here your dog is doing well.

[Huskoda]

I am very sad to see this and can add my wishes that your dog makes a good recovery.

It worries me that once again the police are protecting the criminals from the victims. I would have thought it would have been a clear situation specifically because it occurred on your property, where neither the dogs or owners have a right to be.

I have a feeling what someone else mentioned about the police having no desire to deal with that family may be the case.

Go to the press and remember it is not the police's job to judge cases, that's for he CPS.

[Scribbler]

If its an ACTUAL pitbull then your wrench would not do much. When they lock on they release something into their blood which anesthetises them so they can be beaten and ripped to shreds and not feel it. It's what they are bred for. I've heard that an Alsatian can bite with 500 pounds per sq inch, but a pitbull is 2500!!! Actual killing machines.

lol yes im well aware of a pitbulls strengths however when threatened i also release something into the blood called testosterone i also have the advantage of opposable thumbs and trust me with a big lump hammer in my hand it would have been a blood bath. Im not saying i wouldn't have been in a right mess aswell i would probably have had sacrifice one of my limbs to get it to hold on why i smash its skull in but at least it wouldn't get me round the neck which is what it would do to my 4 year old. A dad protecting his kid shouldn't be underestimated i don't think theres much that could stop one this side of a bullet in the head.

[Huskoda]

lol yes im well aware of a pitbulls strengths however when threatened i also release something into the blood called testosterone i also have the advantage of opposable thumbs and trust me with a big lump hammer in my hand it would have been a blood bath. Im not saying i wouldn't have been in a right mess aswell i would probably have had sacrifice one of my limbs to get it to hold on why i smash its skull in but at least it wouldn't get me round the neck which is what it would do to my 4 year old. A dad protecting his kid shouldn't be underestimated i don't think theres much that could stop one this side of a bullet in the head.

Yes, it doesn't need to feel pain to have its skull caved in with a hammer. The surge you get when your loved ones are in danger is powerful in its own right.

[threadbear]

As a dog owner I find this truly shocking. It is worrying when society and the establishment allows people to behave like these morons. We have a beautiful English Springer Spaniel dog who is 12. I really worry for his welfare at times even though we ware fortunate enough to live in a good area.

I hope you dog recovers soon.

[Scribbler]

Yes, it doesn't need to feel pain to have its skull caved in with a hammer. The surge you get when your loved ones are in danger is powerful in its own right.

Its quite strange how the surge in power to protect your family is often more powerful than the one you get from self preservation. The OP quite rightly said he would have sooner the dogs bit him than his dog. I would share the same view. If you have ever been in a proper fight for example one where you haven't instigated but have defended yourself the adrenalin rush is quite something and can take some time before you return back to your normal state and recover your senses. Its often then you start to feel the injuries that you didn't realise you had while in the fight. Im sure the human body does a similar thing with pain and puts it on hold until your out of danger. The increase in cross breeds of dangerous dogs does worry me Japanees akitas, rotweilers, pitbulls and mastifs are pretty dificult to handle but if more than one attacked you and you had nothing to defend yourself with it would be game over.

[seboni121]

I used to keep rottis and shelties ? What a combo, I remember years ago when a German Shepard attacked the little sheltie , the German Shepard was loose as mine were on common ground and all of a sudden the sheltie was being mauled, all I did was set the Rottweiler on the German Shepard and I saved the sheltie, which the vet said had damaged the spine so was in a sling for months, the owner of the German Shepard complained about te treatment of the dog received from Brutus ( Rottweiler ) and me, if you can't control it get rid of it !

[MartynVRS]

I still think something must be done.

[Loz]

lol yes im well aware of a pitbulls strengths however when threatened i also release something into the blood called testosterone i also have the advantage of opposable thumbs and trust me with a big lump hammer in my hand it would have been a blood bath. Im not saying i wouldn't have been in a right mess aswell i would probably have had sacrifice one of my limbs to get it to hold on why i smash its skull in but at least it wouldn't get me round the neck which is what it would do to my 4 year old. A dad protecting his kid shouldn't be underestimated i don't think theres much that could stop one this side of a bullet in the head.

I was simply highlighting the difference between them and a normal dog. You'd still probably find it more difficult than you'd think. Would be a different story with a normal dog obviously!

[stig1]

todays little update , keira has been back to see the vet today , the vet was happy with the injury to her neck and ear healing well and the drains all working well , but he has had to change her pills as she has a high temprature , when we got there there was another dog there and she went mental , this attack is looking like its had a big effect on how she will be with other dogs now , but time will tell

[stig1]

oh and i feel its only right as we feel we know you all now , stig1 is me richard , mrs stig1 is rachel poorly dog is keira as you all know and ill add 2 pics of my other 2 dogs

[stig1]

these are our other two the brown one is toby the 15 yr old and lucas / luke 9yr old who i found just after christmas when he was about 12 weeks old

[Scribbler]

todays little update , keira has been back to see the vet today , the vet was happy with the injury to her neck and ear healing well and the drains all working well , but he has had to change her pills as she has a high temprature , when we got there there was another dog there and she went mental , this attack is looking like its had a big effect on how she will be with other dogs now , but time will tell

Glad to hear that physically she is on the mend, mentally as you say she might take a while to get back to normal. Perhaps when she's healed take her along with her older brothers to meet some 'know friendly dogs' to get her socialising again.

[Gregie]

My doggy was also called Toby. Such lovely dogs you have there and I'm glad Keira is on the mend.

[greenstripe]

Only just caught up on this thread last night. What a terrible thing to have happened to you all, I'm shocked and appalled. Glad to hear that the wounds are healing. I hope that in time your dog can get over the psychological injury.

[Aspman]

Doesn't sound like the plod knew much about dogs. I've seen dogs that have ripped through hardwood doors never mind a fence. A fence isn't much of a barrier to a motivated mutt. Getting bitten doesn't count as an out of control dog? FFS

You're getting the run around from some PC that can't be bothered with paper work.

Your council might also have a dog unit and/or an antisocial behavior team. It'd be worth getting in touch with both.

There is not much you can do against an enraged powerful dog. A kick in the knackers works for some, going for the eyes might work for others but more likely you'd be best to get a knife and cut it's throat, or bash it's brains in with something heavy. Not much else is going to work and neither is easy to do in the middle of a fight.

All dogs have the potential to be dangerous (remember that poor wee baby killed by one nip from a Jack Russell) but some owners work to make them more dangerous than they would other wise be.

Generally I'm more wary of small dogs than big ones, but any dog on a bit of string being goaded by a grinning ned is to be avoided.

[Jabozuma]

Just read the thread... lost for words for the lack of action from the Police. DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!!!

In some countries on the Continent you can buy home security "policy" with a private security firm. There's a live 24hr connection to them and you gat a "panic button". Had you have that available in UK the following would happen.

1. Panic button pressed

2. Within 3 minutes a squad arrives

3. Dogs are bing shot on the spot and owners taken away for "a chat" to secluded place

4. When they come back (a prolonged hospital recovery might be needed) they repair all the damage, pay you compensation at their own will and if they don't move out pronot they will be ging out of their ways to make your life as esy as possible for a good while.

The reaso nt he above happens and thrives is because Police is doing feck all in cases like that and people have no other choice sadly, however wrong the above might sound to a " a lwafull citizen" etc.

Not hard to imagine what could have happened if your 4 year old child/grand child (if you had one) was playing in the garden with your dog at the time of attack....

If such thing happend to me regardless of consequences I'd rip the owners of those dogs to sherds with my bare hands and then claim temporary insanity in courts. Would be well worth it after loosing my child - kids can't survive such damage, lucky for dogs they can...

Name and shame, publish everything on FB, send to local papers, local council, Police Complaints Comission, make as much noise as possible, to do let go as your actions WILL save some kids life !

All I can do is donate towards your vet bills...

Keep your chin up, you have massive support here and your four legged family member will fully recover!

[Loz]

Doesn't sound like the plod knew much about dogs. I've seen dogs that have ripped through hardwood doors never mind a fence. A fence isn't much of a barrier to a motivated mutt. Getting bitten doesn't count as an out of control dog? FFS

You're getting the run around from some PC that can't be bothered with paper work.

Your council might also have a dog unit and/or an antisocial behavior team. It'd be worth getting in touch with both.

There is not much you can do against an enraged powerful dog. A kick in the knackers works for some, going for the eyes might work for others but more likely you'd be best to get a knife and cut it's throat, or bash it's brains in with something heavy. Not much else is going to work and neither is easy to do in the middle of a fight.

All dogs have the potential to be dangerous (remember that poor wee baby killed by one nip from a Jack Russell) but some owners work to make them more dangerous than they would other wise be.

Generally I'm more wary of small dogs than big ones, but any dog on a bit of string being goaded by a grinning ned is to be avoided.

Jack Russells are awful little things! We had to get rid of one when I was little as it went for my mum. We have a friend who has one and it still ****es in the house when it feels like. Not because it isn't house trained, just because they are little ****s when they want to be!

[Scribbler]

Jack Russells are awful little things! We had to get rid of one when I was little as it went for my mum. We have a friend who has one and it still ****es in the house when it feels like. Not because it isn't house trained, just because they are little ****s when they want to be!

Thats a bit harsh, i also have had bad experiences with jack russels as a kid and come to think of it i can't think of an occasion where i have met one that isn't nasty. However any dog has the potential to kill given the right circumstances. They are technically all a minimum 95% WOLF however domesticated some may appear. Selective breading can create some very strange even agressive traits in families. In fact it makes me laugh that we judge a dog on appearance yet if we did the same with people we would be accused of racism and potentially prosecuted, yet fundamentally there is no difference.

[danposs86]

Take it to Facebook, posting it on the right Pages and in the right Groups will really help it to spread. If you need help let me know, part of my job is managing social media accounts.

[servicepoint]

Horrific..

Staffs, pit bulls etc should be banned from this country, the owners obviously defend them but the damage these type of dogs have caused tells its own story, they are unpredictable and for one thing only. Hope you and your for recover soon.

Shame you didn't have a gun.