Are you able to adjust the box, say you only wanted 220bhp for example?

Are you able to adjust the box, say you only wanted 220bhp for example?

Yes the box is adjustable, so lower settings are available

Yes the box is adjustable, so lower settings are available

Andrew, noticed the TSI petrol can have the FSR box although no confirmation yet on results or price? If you need any more test vehicles, give me a shout 

I have no idea about car mechanics whatsoever but are the manual boxes and drivetrain etc for tdi and tsi exactly the same?

Ignoring torque, this would mean u could tune ur diesel to 220hp and then the gubbins would be under the same stress as if it were a tsi i.e none above normal. I know the manufacturer tolerances mean that the car can handle way more than that but just a thought.

I have no idea about car mechanics whatsoever but are the manual boxes and drivetrain etc for tdi and tsi exactly the same?

Ignoring torque, this would mean u could tune ur diesel to 220hp and then the gubbins would be under the same stress as if it were a tsi i.e none above normal. I know the manufacturer tolerances mean that the car can handle way more than that but just a thought.

You can't ignore torque, it's the torque that puts the drivetrain under stress.  Torque from the diesel vRS is already higher than the petrol version as standard.

 

The obvious symptoms of excess torque due to a remap would include flywheel judder or a slipping clutch.  If this was to occur, you'd back the map off to a point where it stopped, however symptoms like these are routinely checked for as part of the development process of the remap/tuning box.

For anybody still following this post, I just spoke to Mike from Motech Performance and apparently CMD have released the unlock codes for the Octavia's ECU.  This means that remaps to the diesel vRS are now possible.  I'll be headed over there in the next few weeks to have mine remapped.  I'll keep you all posted on how things pan out.

Damian

I think the DTUK box is one of the better options for tuning the TDi. Sure its not entirely plausible to say that a tech who really knows their way around the ECU logging wouldnt be able to tell if a box had been on the car but the likelihood of this being picked up at any point (providing you dont send your car into a service with the box still attached) is very unlikely. Also whilst I know its now common practice and with a reputable tuner carries little risk I still dont much like the idea of the ECU (still probably one of the most expensive electronic components in the car) being cracked open and resealed.

A tuning box is a slight halfway house but at least you can return completely to standard with no physical evidence to suggest the cars been tuned.

Perhaps my only criticism (and no disrespect to you or your company Andrew) is that the DTUK boxes are a little on the pricey side and is one of the main reasons ive not forked out for one myself despite obviously being very good and delivering the desired results.

Pipsyp, whilst I can't confirm which particular vehicle as the owner my not wish it known but, I have seen the full U logging scan of an O3 and no trace is left by the DTUK tuning box or the Pedal box either.

 

Regards

T

Pipsyp, whilst I can't confirm which particular vehicle as the owner my not wish it known but, I have seen the full U logging scan of an O3 and no trace is left by the DTUK tuning box or the Pedal box either.

Regards

T

Hi T, not suggesting there would be any trace of the hardware having been connected as such but Im sure a sharp eye over fuel rail and boost pressure logs would be an indicator as its of course increased fuel rail pressure and boost pressure in unison that provide the power increase. Just suggesting someone with expert knowledge of the vehicle with access to the ECU logs whilst they could not confirm conclusively they could probably wager a guess if a car has previously had a tuning box installed. They'd of course have to have reason to be checking this info and a suspicion in the first place.

I've never used a tuning box, and have spoken to Andrew a couple of times in the past few months (he really knows his stuff!)  However in my semi-informed view (having owned 7 remapped cars in the past 15 years) is that with a remap, at least the car ECU's have all the relevant data being presented to them in an honest fashion.  Whereas a tuning box tricks the injectors into delivering extra boost and fuel, whilst the car ECU thinks that it's doing it's normal job.  Do you get my drift?

 

Don't get me wrong, I've had trouble with remaps that have been too harsh that have gone on to cause problems with cars.  I've also had maps detected and erased by dealers too.

 

The tuning box vs remap debate will roll on for years and years, as will the "will my dealer find out about the map and will it invalidate the warranty?" discussion.  It's certainly been rolling for the past 15 years that I've been tinkering with my cars.  Can I say (politely) that I find it a tad boring now?

 

Personally, I'm hoping that the map will just be able to be written to the sports mode map on the ECU, whilst leaving the other settings as standard.  This would be a nice addition and one that you simply couldn't achieve with a tuning box, which applies extra "oomph" across the board.

There is only one map for every driving mode, modes adjust steering, dsg gear change points, air-con and accelerator nothing else.

Yes the box is adjustable, so lower settings are available

Are there any figures or diagram from the dyno on the other maps available? What can be expected from map 2 and 3 for example? I'm worried about the high torque of over 500nm to the DSG, so a lower setting is preferred.

There is only one map for every driving mode, modes adjust steering, dsg gear change points, air-con and accelerator nothing else.

I'd heard that was the case, however my Yeti had a selectable off-road map, so I wondered if the selectable sports, economy and normal modes of the Mk3 would work in a similar way. I suppose I'll find out in the next few weeks!

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Shark Now have the mapping available for these also

Hi

Looking to get my vRS tdi remapped or tuning box seems tuning box easier to do, not detectable, more power and cheaper. So what are the advantages of the remap thanks

I thought nearly everyone on here who has had a re-map used Shark!  reading their blurb they do seem very good .

 

http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/mapdetail?Skoda-Octavia-III-(5E)-2013--2.0-TDI--184bhp

 

I'm thinking of having my 1.2TSI Rapid done by them.

 

Cheers

Any graph from the dyno available?

I thought nearly everyone on here who has had a re-map used Shark!  reading their blurb they do seem very good .

 

http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/mapdetail?Skoda-Octavia-III-(5E)-2013--2.0-TDI--184bhp

 

I'm thinking of having my 1.2TSI Rapid done by them.

 

Cheers

 

£649, I was expecting something around £300 for some reason.

I spoke to Shark at the tail end of last week and was surprised at the £649 price. I think that Motech will be be half that price, at least.

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£649 - WOW!! It may be a good developed tune but that is very expensive :-|

Is the price because they have to remove the ECU to flash it rather than doing it via the diagnostic port?

No, lots of ECU's have to come out for remaps. They're removed from the vehicle, cracked open, an interface jig applied to points on the board, the encryption is unlocked using a computer. Next the original maps are downloaded, altered and reloaded back to the ECU. The unlocked, altered ECU is then put back into the car. The longest part of the task is often the removal of the ECU, but I think that it's a 2 minute job on the Mk3.

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£649, I was expecting something around £300 for some reason.

 

Zoinks !!!  That is a lot!

 

Does anyone do a remap for the DSG box?  Mine's in 5th by 35mph in normal mode but in sport mode it's still in 3rd.  What I want is a midway point so it doesn't labour the engine or rev its nuts off either.

The way our maps are priced is a pretty complex procedure, but I personally think that less 3% of the value of the car is a pretty reasonable price. Development costs money, we've been working on it since November last year. The bit the public see is the very tail end of the process, not the many many hours of development, late nights on the dyno, etc.

We're not the cheapest, but you guys aren't driving cheap cars. Why ruin a good car with a cheap remap?

Here endeth the latest Shark advertorial!

If anyone has the latest DSG for us to look at and confirm a few things, then we might well have something ready for that too.

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