One problem could be in how the authorities approach the speed of 120 on a 70mph road, will they treat it as a simple matter of speeding or will it be treated as dangerous and' or reckless driving? I think the possible penalties for the latter far outweigh the penalties for the former, so for the OP sake I hope it's treated purely as speeding.

 

Even then I suspect it will be an outright ban as significantly more than 30mph over the speed limit for the road you were driving on.

 

Good luck anyway, but I suspect this is about to be a lesson hard learned.

That's because Man United, the company, chose not to to name anyone

But the OP doesn't appear to be a lying t**t, bearing in mind his original post

 

I thought that after rule changes, if they choose to do that a director of the company gets the points now?

I thought that after rule changes, if they choose to do that a director of the company gets the points now?

All depends who gets prosecuted I think, but you're correct if they choose to prosecute individual directors

A colleague of mine is a magistrate who takes great pleasure in rebuffing the hardship ruling with "you knew the importance of your licence why would you risk it"

 

There is a hard and fast rule, dont get caught ! 

A colleague of mine is a magistrate who takes great pleasure in rebuffing the hardship ruling with "you knew the importance of your licence why would you risk it"

There is a hard and fast rule, dont get caught !

That magistrate should still be open-minded to the argument put forward

He's a **** but he's right kind of. If you valued your licence or the money to cover the fines you wouldn't get caught

He's a **** but he's right kind of. If you valued your licence or the money to cover the fines you wouldn't get caught

If that were right the law would be clear and say "12 points and you're out", and I don't necessarily disagree that that is how it should be

The grey area arises because of the law allowing for the exceptional hardship argument

Just the system you get in the UK for England / Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland.   

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25626147

Just the system you get in the UK for England / Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25626147

What those figures don't tell you is how they accumulated those points

If, for example, a person is prosecuted for six offences of failing to supply details of driver (carrying a fixed 6 points each), and they all fall to be dealt with on the same day, the defendant can still use their exceptional hardship plea

If that argument is successful and they avoid a totting up disqualification they will end up with 36 points on their licence - it doesn't automatically mean that they have escaped disqualification on numerous different occasions

Just goes to show how newspaper stories can raise excitement by not necessarily taking into account all the facts and legal implications

Very true, but the BBC , Sky and other Media including News Papers will be reporting on the Press Release that the 

Institute of Advanced Motorists released.

 

So not really just the BBC / Sky etc reporting on a Daily Fail article.

 

It will be the IAM that are raising the excitement, unless the reports are not saying fully what they said from their research.

I don't buy the hardship rubbish at all. If you've reached the points limit, which is there to give you a fair chance to sort yourself out, you clearly aren't learning and should lose your license. Other modes of transport exist.

Hopefully it will be a ban.

Well lessons learned, next time keep it above 160 and the camera won't go off.

 

I don't buy the hardship rubbish at all. If you've reached the points limit, which is there to give you a fair chance to sort yourself out, you clearly aren't learning and should lose your license. Other modes of transport exist.

 

I think you are being a bit harsh ? Points stay on a licence for three yrs. In that time a motorist could have covered anything up to 100,000 miles or more ? If over that period you have had no accidents, but been done for a few mph over the limit a few times, and clocked up 12 points why should you lose your licence ? especially if it is taking food/house away from wife and kids. 

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If I was the OP, there's little to be gained by worrying about it until the letter drops through the door.

 

I think they have 14 days to send it, so if no news inside say 2 1/2 weeks. it's gone away.

 

If a letter comes, then start fretting.

 

This is the tactic we use every time SWMBO starts panicking when she thinks she may have been caught.

 

And my last one was on the way to the Airport, so I didn't let the worry spoil my holiday, just dealt with it when I got home.

Woman on phone at dvla was talking garbage

Provisional came through in the post and had to do extended resit (which i dont agree with - why does the test have to be extended? I still cannot understand that)

I also dont agree that drink driving requires no mandatory resit (which personally i think is a lot more dangerous than having a right foot hoot)

I got caught and paid the price for what i did, i learned my lesson and no longer speed.

But ask yourselfs this. How many have done triple figures on public roads at some point in time. I know not a lot of people will admit it but deep down i think you'll be suprised how many have

 

I too have thought similar, a mate was done for DD and I was shocked he didnt need a resit. Likewise on the extended test, what's the point, do they think you might be tempted to smash it up to 120mph in the extra time.

 

Agreed - the trick is to be the second fastest car on any given bit of road.

 

I used this before now too. 

 

I don't know the details of your case, but speed in it's own right does not automatically amount to dangerous driving, and it would be unusual for a prosecution to be taken for that without other factors being present

The prosecution have to show that the standard of driving fell well below the standard expected of a reasonably prudent driver

As stated earlier, a drink driver might blow 40 in breath, be driving in a perfectly appropriate manner in relation to other road users, albeit very slightly over the limit

I'm guessing that is the rason why the legislators decided not to have a mandatory extended retest foe drink driving offences - the court, however, still has a discretion to impose a disqualification until a test is passed if the circumstances dictate

 

Interesting, didn't know that. 

 

I don't buy the hardship rubbish at all. If you've reached the points limit, which is there to give you a fair chance to sort yourself out, you clearly aren't learning and should lose your license. Other modes of transport exist.

 

One moment of stupidity? 99mph should mean a instaban and nothing else? 

One moment of stupidity? 99mph should mean a instaban and nothing else? 

 

One moment of stupidity (or getting caught at 99Mph) will only get you some points (possibly only 3), so it takes 2 or 3 more moments of stupidity to tot up to a ban.

Stupid or not, they're the law, so lead balloon time on that one

As for the second, if prosecution is for speeding only it's non-imprisonable, so no vaseline required

Hmmsense of humour bypass methinks.

Hmmsense of humour bypass methinks.

Always is when it works out that way

I can only dream of 120 Mph

 

 

Nick

One moment of stupidity (or getting caught at 99Mph) will only get you some points (possibly only 3), so it takes 2 or 3 more moments of stupidity to tot up to a ban.

 

Is this whole post not about someone having a moment of stupidity and a good chance of a ban? I thought over a certain speed you were highly lightly to get banned? (maybe not 99 necessarily) 

No cameras on the M40, . . yet.

 

 

Nick

What I find funny is most people will frown upon you as if they have never been speeding before. Most of them will have and probably have done 100+ but just have not been caught.

As a defence, just say you were trying to get a feel for  Andy Green's forthcoming experience in Nambia.

 

 

Nick

What I find funny is most people will frown upon you as if they have never been speeding before. Most of them will have and probably have done 100+ but just have not been caught.

Or ever committed any type of offence... Or more likely owned up on a forum. The OP has only made 20 or so posts, if he knew the attitude towards exceeding the limit by some of the contributors, I doubt that he would have put it up. It is less hassle to simply Google penalties etc.

Anyway RogereVRS good luck after you get your driving licence back.