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some one at work got caught on his Suzuki bandit doing 120 in a 60 and got a barrister on his case he also had 9 points he got of under the "Hard ship rule" where he would loose his job and house ect .

he got a large fine and 6 points hanging in a cloud over his name and if he is in court again within 3 years the points come into force and the judge also told him he can not use the hard ship rule again.

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  • In that event the points are for the offence, the disqualification would be under the totting up provisions, not for the offence itself Being a legal adviser I tend to rely on my legal knowledge over

  • What can I expect now? As other have said, a ban and points   Any help please? Yes, slow down, was it really necessary to be travelling in excess of 100 mph?

  • A ban probably, IBTL

It will be a ban for sure. From personal experience

I used to live opposite a Taxi driver and he knew several drivers (including himself in this regard) who had more than 12 points and kept their licence. The court used their discretion and heard how the drivers entire livelihood would be threatened by a ban. I think one major difference is they topped up their points to get to 12 and beyond, whereas you went straight to the big time. Of course nobody can condone excessive speeding but many of us on here have done silly things involving speed, so my sympathy is with you, as I think if you keep your licence you would be a much more cautions and safe driver

I think the opposite. If they actually took people's licenses rather than kept allowing exceptions (effectively its ok to break the law if its going to be inconvenient for you, poor thing) people might actually stop doing stupid things. Taxi drivers don't have some inherent right to do that job. In fact the rest of us should demand our right to be safe from them and they can go do another job like clean toilets if they keep driving irresponsibly. I know of a woman who managed to get well over twice the number of points allowed because her son was disabled and she needed the car to drive him about. I'm of the opinion the money she could have sold her Range Rover for (even including the cost to repair it from all the bumps) would have bought a lot of trips in taxis.

I think if you hit the magic minimum ban numbers in one go it could be a random act of stupidity, if you have been steadily been building up to the special figure, then you have less of an excuse as you knew it was coming. The law is the law in many cases and 120mph is quite a high speed, but I'd want to know more, such as does the driver have a previous clean licence, is his job and family dependent on his licence, how likely is he to reoffend if you say hit him with a huge fine and gave him 9 points?

It'll go to court and I'd think (hope) conditions will play a part, 120 in fog/rain is more dangerous than 120 on a clear dry run with little traffic. 

My bro-in-law was picked up 5-6 yrs ago at 23:50 on M6 Cheshire travelling south at close to the ton. He employed a speeding specialist solicitor and received 6 points and fine (£200 ish). I took a speed awareness course last year and they said that magistrates are generally taking less/no notice of 'hardship' caused to you and yours when loosing your licence. So a toughening up on speeding by magistrates along with extra cameras :x

Yup they take no notice of hardship. My mate has 2 houses and a works car (needs the car to do his job) court wasnt interested and still got banned for 6 months (totting up)

About the only hardship they accept is if you have a seriously ill family member that relies on you for hospital apts etc etc

Big Jase i seem to remember you were to resit your Driving Test but the court forgot to inform you,

how did that work out?

Yup they take no notice of hardship. My mate has 2 houses and a works car (needs the car to do his job) court wasnt interested and still got banned for 6 months (totting up)

About the only hardship they accept is if you have a seriously ill family member that relies on you for hospital apts etc etc

 

The hardship needs to be to someone else, not yourself. Hardship to kids, spouse, elderly parent, loss of job/ability to run company leaving employees jobless etc etc

Be careful saying that a ban will cause undue hardship. A lad I used to work with was looking at a few weeks ban for totting up points. He got work to do a letter, and ended up with 11 points and a few grand fine instead.

Yeah, he didn't lose a few weeks work, but for the money it cost, he could have gone on a foreign holiday for the length of the ban.

Tell them you had just returned from Germany and the driving laws in this godforsaken ****hole are stupid. Alternatively by some vas and bite down on something solid.

Plus the increased insurance premium if its on your own insurance, roughly a third more and for several years.

Big Jase i seem to remember you were to resit your Driving Test but the court forgot to inform you,

how did that work out?

Unless there's more to that than meets the eye, reminding a defendant to retake a test is SFA to do with the court

Be careful saying that a ban will cause undue hardship. A lad I used to work with was looking at a few weeks ban for totting up points. He got work to do a letter, and ended up with 11 points and a few grand fine instead.

Yeah, he didn't lose a few weeks work, but for the money it cost, he could have gone on a foreign holiday for the length of the ban.

If you don't argue exceptional hardship as a 'totter' it's a minimum 6 month ban, end of

However there is nothing in the OP to suggest he is going to hit 12 even he ended up with a 6 point endorsement

Tell them you had just returned from Germany and the driving laws in this godforsaken ****hole are stupid. Alternatively by some vas and bite down on something solid.

Stupid or not, they're the law, so lead balloon time on that one

As for the second, if prosecution is for speeding only it's non-imprisonable, so no vaseline required

Read that

Nowhere does it suggest the court didn't inform him of the need to resit an extended test, more that the DVLA were giving him duff information

ANY prosecution for dangerous driving includes the extended driving test as part of the mandatory disqualification

No it does not does it, so why i went and re-read it.

Court sentence was clearly understood as i read it, DVLA error occurred it seems. 

Big Jase i seem to remember you were to resit your Driving Test but the court forgot to inform you,

how did that work out?

Woman on phone at dvla was talking garbage

Provisional came through in the post and had to do extended resit (which i dont agree with - why does the test have to be extended? I still cannot understand that)

I also dont agree that drink driving requires no mandatory resit (which personally i think is a lot more dangerous than having a right foot hoot)

I got caught and paid the price for what i did, i learned my lesson and no longer speed.

But ask yourselfs this. How many have done triple figures on public roads at some point in time. I know not a lot of people will admit it but deep down i think you'll be suprised how many have

Most of us will have, clear section of road and just thought f*ck it I'll go for it

But ask yourselfs this. How many have done triple figures on public roads at some point in time. I know not a lot of people will admit it but deep down i think you'll be suprised how many have

 

Guilty of the odd blast for sure.  Sometimes I just get a little carried away when the car is running right.  However, time place conditions traffic all assessed beforehand.  The last time I remember though it was due to a BMW M5 making good progress and I decided to follow suit.

Guilty of the odd blast for sure.  Sometimes I just get a little carried away when the car is running right.  However, time place conditions traffic all assessed beforehand.  The last time I remember though it was due to a BMW M5 making good progress and I decided to follow suit.

 

Agreed - the trick is to be the second fastest car on any given bit of road.

 

To be fair, I want to know how the hell anyone gets 120 on the M25 - Most of the time you're lucky to get 20! :)

But ask yourselfs this. How many have done triple figures on public roads at some point in time. I know not a lot of people will admit it but deep down i think you'll be suprised how many have

I don't know the details of your case, but speed in it's own right does not automatically amount to dangerous driving, and it would be unusual for a prosecution to be taken for that without other factors being present

The prosecution have to show that the standard of driving fell well below the standard expected of a reasonably prudent driver

As stated earlier, a drink driver might blow 40 in breath, be driving in a perfectly appropriate manner in relation to other road users, albeit very slightly over the limit

I'm guessing that is the rason why the legislators decided not to have a mandatory extended retest foe drink driving offences - the court, however, still has a discretion to impose a disqualification until a test is passed if the circumstances dictate

Brimma, on 07 Apr 2015 - 15:47, said:Brimma, on 07 Apr 2015 - 15:47, said:

That's because Man United, the company, chose not to to name anyone

But the OP doesn't appear to be a lying t**t, bearing in mind his original post

 

Next time I make a less than serious, possibly humourous post, I shall put this :) on it, just so you know.

 

I agree the OP doesn't seem to be on here to tell lies.

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