39 minutes ago, RGKTSi said:

Interesting.  I haven't heard of anything, tell me more @newbie69?

 

I optioned 19" wheels on mine as preferred the look of them.  So at least they are exactly the same size as the sportline.  When I was looking at the Sportline and the L & K, i did not notice if the sportline sat any lower, my wheels are close enough to the arches!

 

It probably is the retuned DCC

 

I wonder if the program that runs the DCC aspect of the suspension be changed to the Sportline?

 

The springs maybe harder, don't think they are shorter.

 

To be fair, I love the 280 L & K, handling is fine as it is, I love the power and the toys but I won't be chasing no hot hatch backs down a country road.   I don't mind giggling to myself when I beat them from the lights though.

Well it's in this forum, If I get the time later on I might paste some of those comments. No idea how true is it, you'd have to speak with the L&K owners that reported it, they usually said it's not a car to throw around corners but I have been throwing mine around without any control issues or nervousness, and in my review I wrote how surprisingly close it was to the GTI before it on a public road (the track is another matter). In fact, I was coming across it so often after I had ordered mine and I had started to believe it would be the same on the Sportline and was already investigating coilovers but turns out the Sportline DCC leaves up to my expectations easily. On the one occasion so far it didn't seem to struggle at all sticking to a Cooper S during 2-3 km of rural Sweden. I've also dropped those anchors of wheels the car comes with and switched to 19" but lightweight alloys  (-5kg at each wheel if you can believe it), big difference in response and direction change.

Sportline springs are definitely shorter though, in particular: 15mm lower for non-DCC cars and 10mm lower for DCC cars compared to their L&K equivalents, you can easily cross-check the different part numbers. And with the lower ride the DCC is probably retuned too, wouldn't make sense for any manufacturer to just throw shorter springs without matching the dampers. No idea on the stiffness of springs, but already the lower height and retuned DCC would make a noticeable difference.

Edited 29 April, 20197 yr by newbie69

2 hours ago, RGKTSi said:

Interesting.  I haven't heard of anything, tell me more @newbie69?

 

I optioned 19" wheels on mine as preferred the look of them.  So at least they are exactly the same size as the sportline.  When I was looking at the Sportline and the L & K, i did not notice if the sportline sat any lower, my wheels are close enough to the arches!

 

It probably is the retuned DCC

 

I wonder if the program that runs the DCC aspect of the suspension be changed to the Sportline?

 

The springs maybe harder, don't think they are shorter.

 

To be fair, I love the 280 L & K, handling is fine as it is, I love the power and the toys but I won't be chasing no hot hatch backs down a country road.   I don't mind giggling to myself when I beat them from the lights though.

The sportline sits 15mm lower than 'standard' 

51 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

The sportline sits 15mm lower than 'standard' 

 

Blimey - The std height must be SUV-like!  I think our Sportline sits about 15mm too high (non-DCC)

3 minutes ago, Swervin_Mervin said:

 

Blimey - The std height must be SUV-like!  I think our Sportline sits about 15mm too high (non-DCC)

This ^ ...and it would still easily do with another 15mm off

On 26/04/2019 at 17:05, penguin17 said:

Yeah, air filter is normally changed as part of the 'major' service.  Though I might take a look at mine this week and see what state it's in.  For £12 for a Mann filter on ECP I can slip another one in. 

 

Question: Mann filters are OEM for the TSI's right? 

To answer my own question and for reference to other 280 owners: 

 

The filter I removed from my car was indeed a Mann filter, it had an VW part no but also had the Mann product code too, 'C 30 005'.  This is the  direct replacement: 

 

https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER Katalog Europa/Vehicles/CARS %2B TRANSPORTERS/SKODA/Superb III (3V)/2.0 TSI CJXA (T00000000332517)/Air Filter/C 30 005 

 

I got mine from EuroCarParts with one of their 55% off codes, making it £12.01 (the 1p is important!), incl delivery. 

 

VW use other filter brands too from what I understand. 

Hi - reaching out for some advice.

 

I received a quote from Skodastore.com for a Superb L&K 272 4x4 Business Grey, virtual cockpit etc which interested me. However, I have spoken with the dealer who is saying the factory is closed for new orders :(

 

Does anyone know if this is true? Apparently, the factory has a full order book and all I can select from is cars in stock - still new and unregistered but not to my specific requirement e.g they can offer a petrol blue estate which is currently in Germany waiting to be shipped.

 

I am a bit surprised about the factory situation - anyone heard anything similar?

 

Cheers,

Mike

1 hour ago, Littlewiz said:

Hi - reaching out for some advice.

 

I received a quote from Skodastore.com for a Superb L&K 272 4x4 Business Grey, virtual cockpit etc which interested me. However, I have spoken with the dealer who is saying the factory is closed for new orders :(

 

Does anyone know if this is true? Apparently, the factory has a full order book and all I can select from is cars in stock - still new and unregistered but not to my specific requirement e.g they can offer a petrol blue estate which is currently in Germany waiting to be shipped.

 

I am a bit surprised about the factory situation - anyone heard anything similar?

 

Cheers,

Mike

They do usually close the factory in Summer time for retooling, maintenance, training etc but not heard anything specific to orders on the 272 being closed. It could be in preparation for the face lift model? 

 

Book for factory order Superb 3 is currently closed as Skoda approach the half year switch. Updated vehicle spec. From week 22 I think ?? I dont have detail on changes but rumour says trhere are some tweaks. And maybe the updated 220 (190) engine may re appear on the UK listings.

 

 

Edited 30 April, 20197 yr by Sagalout
added note re 220

13 minutes ago, penguin17 said:

They do usually close the factory in Summer time for retooling, maintenance, training etc but not heard anything specific to orders on the 272 being closed. It could be in preparation for the face lift model? 

 

Probably demand has reduced since deletion of Multi Point Injection and Exhaust Valves 

Ok thanks penguin17 and Sagalout. So it seems to keep my current offer which is valid for 30 days I might have to choose from what's in stock.

 

Thanks for the info

Cheers,

Mike

13 hours ago, penguin17 said:

To answer my own question and for reference to other 280 owners: 

 

The filter I removed from my car was indeed a Mann filter, it had an VW part no but also had the Mann product code too, 'C 30 005'.  This is the  direct replacement: 

 

https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER Katalog Europa/Vehicles/CARS %2B TRANSPORTERS/SKODA/Superb III (3V)/2.0 TSI CJXA (T00000000332517)/Air Filter/C 30 005 

 

I got mine from EuroCarParts with one of their 55% off codes, making it £12.01 (the 1p is important!), incl delivery. 

 

VW use other filter brands too from what I understand. 

Yorkshiremen tighter than a Scot.

2 hours ago, Boxerdog1 said:

Probably demand has reduced since deletion of Multi Point Injection and Exhaust Valves 

And 4bhp less.

Hello all - wanted to ask what kind of fuel economy you are getting from your 272/280? I have a 66 plate 280 estate L&K - six speed DSG. I came from a 7.5 Golf R Estate 310 which was 7 speed DSG. I have noticed the high gearing - and realise this is different to the 220. 

 

Real world economy it around 29mpg at best. £91 to fill the car the other day with vpower and I am seeing about 400 miles to that tank. 

 

I just feel it is a bit down - comparing like for like with my golf. The S3 is 71kg heavier than the golf - so not massive - plus the golf cruises on motorway in 7th. 

 

Is this average? - I am not a granny driver for any means - but even on a cruise to work on the motorway I am not seeing this rise over the 30 mark. 

 

Feedback and comments welcome. 

 

Love the car BTW - have it about 2 months now. Fitted a pedal box - and actually noticed that that in Sport map - this seems to trick the car into better economy - might be down to the pedal position - and dont know that will actually work into real world more economy at the pump. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, freeglide said:

Hello all - wanted to ask what kind of fuel economy you are getting from your 272/280? I have a 66 plate 280 estate L&K - six speed DSG. I came from a 7.5 Golf R Estate 310 which was 7 speed DSG. I have noticed the high gearing - and realise this is different to the 220. 

 

Real world economy it around 29mpg at best. £91 to fill the car the other day with vpower and I am seeing about 400 miles to that tank. 

 

I just feel it is a bit down - comparing like for like with my golf. The S3 is 71kg heavier than the golf - so not massive - plus the golf cruises on motorway in 7th. 

 

Is this average? - I am not a granny driver for any means - but even on a cruise to work on the motorway I am not seeing this rise over the 30 mark. 

 

Feedback and comments welcome. 

 

Love the car BTW - have it about 2 months now. Fitted a pedal box - and actually noticed that that in Sport map - this seems to trick the car into better economy - might be down to the pedal position - and dont know that will actually work into real world more economy at the pump. 

 

 

What range (from the smaller Golf tank) were you getting from the R estate and real mpg for comparison? What is the difference in rpm at 70mph on the motorway in top gear (was Golf say 2,000rpm and S3 2,200rpm) between DSG6/7 boxes?

I drive my 2018 L&K 280 hatch in 2 ways. 

 

When Im driving London for work (300mile round trip) I set DCC to Eco, ACC to 70mph and I average 37mpg.  Chances of getting above 70 on the M1 are limited anyway. 

 

Other times I have the car in normal non eco setting and probably get 30MPG. 

 

My average over my first 4000miles of ownership is 33.4mpg, which I don’t consider too bad for a 4WD motor with almost 300HP. 

Edited 3 May, 20197 yr by Leccy

26 minutes ago, freeglide said:

Hello all - wanted to ask what kind of fuel economy you are getting from your 272/280? I have a 66 plate 280 estate L&K - six speed DSG. I came from a 7.5 Golf R Estate 310 which was 7 speed DSG. I have noticed the high gearing - and realise this is different to the 220. 

 

Real world economy it around 29mpg at best. £91 to fill the car the other day with vpower and I am seeing about 400 miles to that tank. 

 

I just feel it is a bit down - comparing like for like with my golf. The S3 is 71kg heavier than the golf - so not massive - plus the golf cruises on motorway in 7th. 

 

Is this average? - I am not a granny driver for any means - but even on a cruise to work on the motorway I am not seeing this rise over the 30 mark. 

 

Feedback and comments welcome. 

 

Love the car BTW - have it about 2 months now. Fitted a pedal box - and actually noticed that that in Sport map - this seems to trick the car into better economy - might be down to the pedal position - and dont know that will actually work into real world more economy at the pump. 

 

 

I did the opposite: Came from a DSG6 MK7 FWD Clubsport to the 200kg heavier 272 DSG7 AWD Superb and one of the first things I noticed was that I wasn't getting worse economy  than in the previous car which was very surprising. The short 6th gear had always been my main gripe with the DSG6, but the 7th in the new 'box is ridiculously long (in a good way) as you might have noticed during your 7.5R ownership. I did a 100km trip the other day sticking to the 110km/h road limit and I saw ~7.7-7.8l/100km (36-37mpg). That's in a just 1 month old, 1620kg tuned Superb (~340bhp) also with pedal box, which I found impressive. My daily commute can vary from 33-35mpg  if driven in ECO to 25 if driven in Normal-Sport and with the Start/Stop permanently switched off. That's moving at 30-40mph but without much stopping apart from a couple of traffic lights.

In general, with the exception of the warm-up phase (first 5 min or so) where the Superb is thirstier, under the same conditions I am seeing the same or marginally better economy compared to the GTI which I can only attribute to new 'box being more economical and partly to the fact I can now coast more often (on the GTI this only happened when I was in ECO).

PS. How come you changed from the 7.5 R estate? I much prefer the Superb hatch to the Golf estate but if I was already in a very similar car I would find it hard to switch.



 

Edited 3 May, 20197 yr by newbie69

Thanks for the feedback - I am never seeing anywhere near 37mpg - if I drive real easy I might edge up to 31 or 32 - I am wondering if I have some underlying issues. 

 

Running fault codes I have noticed some intermitted mis-fire codes. The start/stop can sometimes catch itself - when it cuts - I rush to get it started and seldom she will struggle to start for that brief second. MY golf 7.5R never has this issue on re-start. Thinking it might be the source of the mis-fire. 

 

The car is still in warranty - I am just not seeing the MPG you guys report above. 

1 minute ago, freeglide said:

Thanks for the feedback - I am never seeing anywhere near 37mpg - if I drive real easy I might edge up to 31 or 32 - I am wondering if I have some underlying issues. 

 

Running fault codes I have noticed some intermitted mis-fire codes. The start/stop can sometimes catch itself - when it cuts - I rush to get it started and seldom she will struggle to start for that brief second. MY golf 7.5R never has this issue on re-start. Thinking it might be the source of the mis-fire. 

 

The car is still in warranty - I am just not seeing the MPG you guys report above. 

Unless having very defined conditions, comparing random values is not of much use. I am almost never seeing as economical figures as most people report on any of my cars so I figured I can't always have a bad car but must simply be a matter of my commute's nature (just 8-12min long, car spends half the time warming up) and my driving habits' (I will usually try to exploit a nice gap in the traffic when given the opportunity). My overall mpg during the first 2670km is 25mpg but that's due to the reasons explained. As I wrote earlier, when I happened to cover a longer distance religiously sticking to 110km/h (just so to see what I could get) I got 36-37mpg so I don't worry.

Try to monitor the mpg over a trip of say 20-40 miles, sticking to the road limit as much as possible, preferably even resetting the counter at 5min after setting off, after the engine will have been up to temp. I imagine you would see 35mpg in that scenario on a relatively flat road.
 

24 minutes ago, freeglide said:

Thanks for the feedback - I am never seeing anywhere near 37mpg - if I drive real easy I might edge up to 31 or 32 - I am wondering if I have some underlying issues. 

 

Running fault codes I have noticed some intermitted mis-fire codes. The start/stop can sometimes catch itself - when it cuts - I rush to get it started and seldom she will struggle to start for that brief second. MY golf 7.5R never has this issue on re-start. Thinking it might be the source of the mis-fire. 

 

The car is still in warranty - I am just not seeing the MPG you guys report above. 

Well at least there are two of us freeglide .... decent distance run say 200 miles at around 80 ish on motorway I get about 33mpg .  Local 'gentle'run say 30 miles very similar.  And short urban trips I tend to try not to look !!   But to be honest my company Performance Diesels like the 335D only averaged late 30's overall so given the fact that the Superb Combi is a fairly big lump and in my opinion probably the nicest looking big lump available ,I'm still pretty happy .

Edited 3 May, 20197 yr by Boxerdog1

48 minutes ago, Boxerdog1 said:

Well at least there are two of us freeglide .... decent distance run say 200 miles at around 80 ish on motorway I get about 33mpg .  Local 'gentle'run say 30 miles very similar.  And short urban trips I tend to try not to look !!   But to be honest my company Performance Diesels like the 335D only averaged late 30's overall so given the fact that the Superb Combi is a fairly big lump and in my opinion probably the nicest looking big lump available ,I'm still pretty happy .

 So I dont want to get too technical or accurate here. The 7.5R was much more harsh suspension wise - but was a very rapid point-2point machine. Having DCC on the S3 is nice too. Maybe having to fork out for 66 litres of fuel I feel something is going wrong. But was with my buddy in his X5 the other day and I brimmed his with £123 of diesel!!

Coming from 11 years of VW group diesel ownership I was expecting to really take a hit on fuel costs; though it was a compromise I was willing to make..

 

Yes I have taken a hit but it’s not as bad as I was expecting.  I’ve seen 40mpg on a solo 200 mile drive down the A1.  With 4 of us onboard and a full boot we averaged ~35mpg on a 400 mile drive to Cornwall. Not too bad at all. 

 

Around town and with stints of ‘spirited’ driving low-mid 20’s is the usual. Long term average seems to hover around the 30mpg mark. 

 

On a fortnightly 400 mile round trip and then some town driving once I get home I normally get ~500 miles from a tank. 

 

I use Tesco Momentum and have  Vredestein Quatrac 5 tyres and run them at 2.8 bar. 

 

Just had a service and also changed the air filter so mpg/performance should improve, marginally. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 May, 20197 yr by penguin17

So the answer really is ... enjoy the beast or join the 'Righteous' and buy a Prius ... or am I being non PC ? - to be honest I'm too old to care 

Edited 3 May, 20197 yr by Boxerdog1

3 minutes ago, Boxerdog1 said:

So the answer really is ... enjoy the beast or join the 'Righteous' and buy a Prius ... or am I being non PC ? - to be honest I'm too old to care 

Exactly! 

 

As already pointed out, a Germanic performance derv wouldn’t be much more economical and a V6/V8 with comparable performance would be 50% more thirsty. 

 

For a big car and a ‘measly’ 2 ltr turbo the 280 is a bloody good compromise with running costs vs performance; and it’s practical to boot! 

Yes for sure thoroughly enjoying the 280. Plan to make it a proper Q car with a remap at some stage. Just need a fine a reputable tuner. I am not happy to just plug in a box. 

6 minutes ago, freeglide said:

Yes for sure thoroughly enjoying the 280. Plan to make it a proper Q car with a remap at some stage. Just need a fine a reputable tuner. I am not happy to just plug in a box. 

AmD in Grays Essex would be not too far from you and would get at least 360bhp on Tesco Momentum or V-Power Nitro plus a decent airbox/filter.