AutoCOM coding and feature activation

[dkarolj]

Hi all,

I have a twindoor SII 3,6 V6 from 2010.

 

And as I read here on forum there are some options that could be activated like XDS and HHC depending on ABS module and other like Cruise control speed on maxidot.

 

Everyone here is using VCDS but as my universal Delphi AutoCOM can read and code modules I wounder if someone could help me to activate HHC and XDS on my V6 over AutoCOM?

 

This is my current HEX code of ABS module

 

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;00

 

and HW id of ABS module is

 

3T0907397C

H45 ESP MK60EC1

(does it support HHC and XDS?)

 

Edited 20 November, 2015 by dkarolj

[Solarstorm]

You'd need to know the software version rather than hardware version.

You can then look it up on the list below

 

As to if you can activate them without VCDS or not, no idea on that one!

 

Part Numbers

PR-1AT = Electronic Stabilisation Problem (ESP)
PR-UG0 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) OR Comfort Driving Assist NOT installed
PR-UG1 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) installed
PR-UG3 = Comfort Driving Assist installed = XDS
PR-UG4 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) & Comfort Driving Assist installed

1K0-907-37?-AD ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)
1K0-907-37?-AE ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-AF ; MK70M (PR-1AC)
1K0-907-37?-AH ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-AJ ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-AK ; MK70M (PR-1AC)
1K0-907-37?-AM ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-AN ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)
1K0-907-37?-AP ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-AQ ; MK70M (PR-1AC)
1K0-907-37?-AS ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-AT ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-BA ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-BB ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-BC ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-BD ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)
1K0-907-37?-BE ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-BF ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)
1K0-907-37?-BG ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-BH ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)
1K0-907-37?-BJ ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)
1K0-907-37?-BK ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)
1K0-907-37?-BL ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4

[dkarolj]

You'd need to know the software version rather than hardware version.

You can then look it up on the list below

 

As to if you can activate them without VCDS or not, no idea on that one!

 

Part Numbers

PR-1AT = Electronic Stabilisation Problem (ESP)

PR-UG0 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) OR Comfort Driving Assist NOT installed

PR-UG1 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) installed

PR-UG3 = Comfort Driving Assist installed = XDS

PR-UG4 = Hill Hold Control (HHC) & Comfort Driving Assist installed

1K0-907-37?-AD ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)

1K0-907-37?-AE ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-AF ; MK70M (PR-1AC)

1K0-907-37?-AH ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-AJ ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-AK ; MK70M (PR-1AC)

1K0-907-37?-AM ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-AN ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)

1K0-907-37?-AP ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-AQ ; MK70M (PR-1AC)

1K0-907-37?-AS ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-AT ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-BA ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-BB ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-BC ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-BD ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)

1K0-907-37?-BE ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-BF ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT)

1K0-907-37?-BG ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-BH ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)

1K0-907-37?-BJ ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4)

1K0-907-37?-BK ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG0/UG3)

1K0-907-37?-BL ; MK60EC1 (PR-1AT, UG1/UG4

 

Thanks for the table...on the image I uploaded SW id is the same as HW id so 3T0907397C.

 

I went through multiple ABS data groups on AutoCOM and I can`t find any id that starts with 1K0.

 

Coding can be done by tools in AutoCOM but now I would need a good HEX value and if someone can help to determen is 3T0907397C the right module

[LasseTheDude]

U have to activate with the long coding first! Then u have to adjust it with adaptions. Get urself vcds!

[dkarolj]

U have to activate with the long coding first! Then u have to adjust it with adaptions. Get urself vcds!

 

 

looks like I have to become "Everyone here is using VCDS". Thanks all for the input!

 

So next question will be do Skoda Dealers do such activations or should I find some VAG group member (is someone from Croatia active here?) who has a VCDS and experience to activate it.? 

[langers2k]

I've had a quick look in ETKA and that doesn't seem to mention that part but I know it exists as I've scanned a car with it fitted. That means I'm not sure how to find the PR codes it supports which would tell you if this is possible.

 

Had a quick look for 1K0 modules which share H45, they look to be AP rev so support HHC but not XDS. Some modules can also be flashed to newer firmware which might unlock other functionally but again I'm not sure if yours is one of them.

 

I think for MK60EC1 modules that:

 

HHC is byte 16, bit 0

XDS is byte 17, bit 3

 

Which would suggest:

 

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;00 <-- Stock

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;00 <-- HHC

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;08 <-- XDS

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;08 <-- HHC+XDS

 

Feel free to try them at your own risk but I've no idea what will happen. I have a feeling HHC might work but not XDS given the hardware version.

 

If the module can't support it then it may clear the entire long coding but as you have the original value that's not a big worry. Good luck

[Gizmo]

So next question will be do Skoda Dealers do such activations or should I find some VAG group member (is someone from Croatia active here?) who has a VCDS and experience to activate it.? 

 

We do have 1 member from Croatia on Briskoda with VCDS, but he has not logged on for 5 months, still it will be worth you sending him a PM.

 

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/user/65443-exhaust/

[dkarolj]

I've had a quick look in ETKA and that doesn't seem to mention that part but I know it exists as I've scanned a car with it fitted. That means I'm not sure how to find the PR codes it supports which would tell you if this is possible.

Had a quick look for 1K0 modules which share H45, they look to be AP rev so support HHC but not XDS. Some modules can also be flashed to newer firmware which might unlock other functionally but again I'm not sure if yours is one of them.

I think for MK60EC1 modules that:

HHC is byte 16, bit 0

XDS is byte 17, bit 3

Which would suggest:

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;00 <-- Stock

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;00 <-- HHC

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;08 <-- XDS

84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;08 <-- HHC+XDS

Feel free to try them at your own risk but I've no idea what will happen. I have a feeling HHC might work but not XDS given the hardware version.

If the module can't support it then it may clear the entire long coding but as you have the original value that's not a big worry. Good luck

This could be the solution!

Byte 16 is now AA so 10101010 and AB is 10101011 so bit 0 is then TRUE. Do you just have a metod to check that HH is on that address?

Thank you for all the help...I would be happy to just get HH and XDS would be extra bonus.

[dkarolj]

We do have 1 member from Croatia on Briskoda with VCDS, but he has not logged on for 5 months, still it will be worth you sending him a PM.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/user/65443-exhaust/

Will message him and see if he can help...thanks for the input!

[langers2k]

Do you just have a method to check that HH is on that address?

 

The easiest method is to code it and see what happens

 

If the module doesn't like HHC I'd expect it will either refuse to code the unit, clear the entire code to 0's or show a fault code. None should be a problem as you have the original code to restore to. Assuming it takes the code with no errors then a simple road test will confirm if HHC works or not.

[dkarolj]

The easiest method is to code it and see what happens

 

If the module doesn't like HHC I'd expect it will either refuse to code the unit, clear the entire code to 0's or show a fault code. None should be a problem as you have the original code to restore to. Assuming it takes the code with no errors then a simple road test will confirm if HHC works or not.

 

Trial and error

 

I managed to contact "exhaust" and he is already helping me alot. He is far away from me in Croatia so will try to also contact nearby member of our local Skoda forum. Would like to have VCDS as backup if AutoCOM does not preform

[dkarolj]

The easiest method is to code it and see what happens

 

If the module doesn't like HHC I'd expect it will either refuse to code the unit, clear the entire code to 0's or show a fault code. None should be a problem as you have the original code to restore to. Assuming it takes the code with no errors then a simple road test will confirm if HHC works or not.

 

you were spot on with addresses for MK60

 

look at https://youtu.be/TmdTq6g-s9w

[dkarolj]

Success!
 
Just few minutes ago I activated HHC on my SII 3.6 V6 with Delphi AutoCOM.
 
As I was unable to get any VCDS member near me today I decided to try coding ABS control module myself with just AutoCOM. First I activated HHC by changing 
 
84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;00 <-- Stock to
84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;00 <-- HHC
 
Code was accepted and instructions said to turn off ignition for 30 sec to store the new code. HHC is now on and holds the car on inclines.
 
Then I tried to activate XDS
 
84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;00 <-- XDS
84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AB;08 <-- HHC+XDS
 
but it said operation aborted so it seams ABS module does not support XDS and cant activate that. So if you input the wrong code it does not restart the module to 00 00... it just does not accept the code.
 
Once again thanks to all members here and special thanks to @langers2k for a working solution to my problem.

[trybar]

Hi all,

 

My Superb has much different coding, here's output from VCP:

ECU: 1K0 907 379 BL

J104 ESP MK60EC1

H/W: 1K0907379BL  module variant H31

 

My original code was:

863D6016092300FF610F06E590220082340000

 

 

HHC enabling attempt:

863D6016092300FF610F06E590220082350000

 

and XDC enabling attempt:

863D6016092300FF610F06E590220082350800

 

At this moment I have returned to original settings, can you advise on would that last code be HHC+XDC enabled car? Both codings were accepted by car

 

Thanks for any help.

Edited 10 January, 2016 by trybar

[langers2k]

That last code looks about right to me, at least checking by eye. If it was accepted by the car you were probably good to go.

Why did you restore the original settings?

[trybar]

Hi,

 

Firts coding on my own, so wanted second opinion before proceeding.

 

Coding was put in place and both HHC and XDC are operational, success

 

Thanks for support.

[andyEm]

What is xdc?

Wysłane z mojego SM-G925F przy użyciu Tapatalka

[psycholist]

As far as I know XDC brakes wheels when they start spinning so the car behaves more or less like it has limited slip differentials, but there seems to be nothing at all on the internet about it. Are there particular years/drivetrains that are more likely to have it available before losing a few hours of the weekend VCDSing at a friend's house...

[langers2k]

That's because it should be XDS not XDC
 
VW have limited information:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/braking-and-stability-systems/xds
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/elektronische_differenzialsperrexds.html
 

The XDS electronic differential lock is an extension of the familiar EDL function. However, XDS responds not to loss of traction but to the unloading of the front wheel on the inside of the corner when cornering fast. XDS applies pressure from the ESC hydraulics to the inside wheel to prevent it from spinning. This improves traction and reduces the tendency to understeer. The level of pressure applied ranges from approximately 5 to 15 bar. The impression when driving is similar to that of a limited-slip differential in toned-down form. The precise, one-sided build-up of brake pressure makes cornering even sportier, quicker and more accurate.

 

If you want to know more, I'd search for torque vectoring through braking.

It's purely a function of the ABS unit to try and I believe it came in around MY10 so if your car or ABS is after that you might be able to enable it. The list earlier in the thread gives you a good idea of which MK60EC1 modules should support it.

[splinter]

Hi guys

After having my car for just over three years and being told Hill Hold was not possible I have recoded and both HHC+XDC are now active.

All thanks to you guys!!

Thanks

[splinter]

Sorry XDS!

[dkarolj]

Hi guys

After having my car for just over three years and being told Hill Hold was not possible I have recoded and both HHC+XDC are now active.

All thanks to you guys!!

Thanks

 

Glad to hear...enjoy!

 

dk

[splinter]

Hi guys

Need some help

Since activating HHC andXDS I have fitted a DSG steering wheel 3T0419091AC/E74 and recoded that.

I now have a CAN Gateway error message saying Control module incorrectly coded.

 

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb

   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 

   Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  

   Revision:   H40       Serial number: 260312F6000118

   Coding: 359303

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999

   VCID: 3D5FF0D5A4ED2BD655-8068

 

1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 

            000 -  - 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01100000

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 91347 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.03.16

                    Time: 12:25:41

 

I have not altered anything here.

Any ideas?

Regards

Splint

[Gizmo]

Can you post up a full scan.

[DEL80Y]

Splinter looks like you need a full scan on VagCOM

I have used Delphi DS150 to scan car and can get into ABS module and get code 84;3D;A0;16;19;22;00;00;21;12;05;E4;98;1E;00;41;AA;00

But can see no way of editing text so that I can get hhc and xds  working..??

I am also looking for a steering wheel where did you get yours.
Good luck

Many thanks Del