I hate old people rant!

[cheezemonkhai]

Ok before I start this is a rant, but basically I'm sick to f... death of old people (For old read baby boomers and a bit).

When growing up you get told to respect your elders, which is fine except:

1) Many can't drive for toffee, but will make obscene gestures at you when they do something stupid.

For example pulling out on a roundabout/crossroads where they must give way, directly in front of you.

They cause you to do an emergency stop, and they give you the look and a gesture as if you're out of place.

2) They're just rude.

Many spend huge amounts of time moaning about the y00f of today.

Yes many of the yoof have it easy, but on the whole they'll actually say sorry if they walk into you etc.

Not the oldies, no, they drive their motobility scooters (Obecycles for the fat lazy ones) into you or smack you with

a shopping trolley. No sorry, no anything. Sometimes they'll just keep ramming it into you until you move.

Of course if a yoof says excuse me, they will just ignore them.

3) Many spend all their time saying how hard they worked and how younger people are lazy and that's why they don't

have houses etc. No it's because you are massively profiteering and buying up houses because you were too stupid to

save properly for a pension.

4) Young people have everything... Maybe, but most of them work for it. This of course assumes there are any jobs.

Not only are there less jobs and no jobs for life, but the flipping coffin dodgers got the rules changed so they can't

be made to retire. Thus reducing the number of jobs for the young.

Many of that generation are seriously rude, unpleasant and some are plain racist and think it's ok.

Anyway, that's my rant over (and breath), but feel free to moan at either group.

[Machpoint005]

Many of us who are north of 60:

 

(1) can still drive perfectly well (look at our low insurance costs)

(2) are polite and considerate

(3) still work hard and recognise how hard it is for younger people whose housing costs take such an enormous proportion of their income.

(4) If you can find anyone in their early 60s who is better off because the retirement age has increased, just before they got there, I'd be amazed.

[KenONeill]

5) Will drop a door in your face, but will absolutely not say "thank you" if you hold a door for them.

[Machpoint005]

5) Will drop a door in your face, but will absolutely not say "thank you" if you hold a door for them.

 

I question whether this basic lack of courtesy correlates with age. 

 

It doesn't in Manchester.

[VRS Mike]

and they insist on going to supermarkets on the weekend, and go to banks during lunch times hahahahaha

[cheezemonkhai]

I know not every single over 60 is like this, but my god there are some real a** holes out there.

Somebody needs to tell them if they want younger people to be polite to them, then they need to do the same back.

It's not a one way street. Yes they get extra courtesy, but not everything for rudeness.

That door one rings so true!

[devonutopia]

I think a lot of it is geographical / demographical too.  I rarely come across any unpleasant old codgers in Devon.  From what I can tell, most will appreciate if you go out your way to hold a door / get something off high shelf at the shop, etc etc.

[cheezemonkhai]

To be honest, I sometimes wonder if there is a correlation in the increase of UKIP voters and little englanders to this.

I once experienced a particularly unpleasant old guy walked straight into an ex g/f, knocking her over, without so much as a sorry.

When I said something, they just said "tell her to go home then".

That'll be London then and we were in er.. London.

Go figure.

Oddly the rant was due to just having experienced the rude and the driving in one morning, but I do think there's a small but significant group of we're better than you because we worked hard and got our hosues etc group out there.

It's just unpleasant and somebody probably ought to remind them that it'll be the y00f that are looking after them in their care homes.

Edited 18 December, 2015 by cheezemonkhai

[Llanigraham]

5) Will drop a door in your face, but will absolutely not say "thank you" if you hold a door for them.

 

So do younger people!

And when you do hold a door open for a younger person they never say "Thank you".

[KenONeill]

So do younger people!

And when you do hold a door open for a younger person they never say "Thank you".

You do know that I'm in my 50s?

 

Oh and I make a point of making sure that you will hear me saying thank you if you show me that sort of minor courtesy.

[devonutopia]

 

 

Oh and I make a point of making sure that you will hear me saying thank you if you show me that sort of minor courtesy.

 

Me too - It's just called being a pleasant human being.   I try and show same level of courtesy on the road too - just wish others did as well.

[Llanigraham]

Sorry Ken, yes I did know you were slightly younger than me.

I was trying to support your comment.

 

To the younger sprogs:

Just remember you will be old one day!

 

And to be honest, I find more poor driving from (some) young people, more rudeness from (some) younger people, less manners in (some) young people and more general ignorance from (some) young people.

[Scribbler]

Age is irrelevant I find the biggest divide is between cities and small towns villages and North / South. I find the greatest number of rude ill mannered people are from southern cities and the Kindest and well mannered people in northern Villages (Rule of thumb & My opinion obviously not fact!)  Could it be anything to do with the erosion of British values and this social cohesion they keep banging on about. Many of the countries our Southern Cities diverse population originate from don't have the same customs and level of civilisation hardly appropriate to expect them to behave civil when they get here is it? Takes time like centuries not decades. You only have to go back 100 years from when these old sayings and folk law about Respect for elders and polite greetings holding doors, helping them with their shopping running errands for old folk etc. The landscape was very different back then. Its more survival of the fittest these days, very sad.

[cheezemonkhai]

Sorry Ken, yes I did know you were slightly younger than me.

I was trying to support your comment.

 

To the younger sprogs:

Just remember you will be old one day!

 

And to be honest, I find more poor driving from (some) young people, more rudeness from (some) younger people, less manners in (some) young people and more general ignorance from (some) young people.

This is the attitude that really gets me.

I'm not young and certainly into middle age.

I find the y00f more polite than the oldies, so what does that tell you.

Obviously it isn't all (hence the rant warning).

Edited 18 December, 2015 by cheezemonkhai

[Robjon]

Cheezemonkhai - I know exactly where you're coming from.

 

But we old f@rts ain't all like that.  Honest!  

[MickA]

Young folks

My missus went out her way a few weeks ago to make sure the manager of a shop knew about the great service she had from a young male assistant (better be careful here)

Likewise she puts them in there place if they are rude or unattentive, which can be embarrassing for me sometimes. Spitting, swearing, dropping litter you name it and that's just the women, lol.

 

She would definately agree about old folk if she read this post, she has had to deal with them, the public for nigh on 40 years and knows only too well how rude some can be.

 

Me, I'm the wrong side of 60 but still polite and hold doors open and stuff, but I just let it all go over my head and let them get on with it if they are rude in anyway.

Edited 18 December, 2015 by MickA

[cheezemonkhai]

Cheezemonkhai - I know exactly where you're coming from.

 

But we old f@rts ain't all like that.  Honest!  

Oh I know, I've got some lovely neighbors.

The thread was a rant, because basically I'd had enough this time and wanted to vent about an exceptionally rude example.

There are these young and old, but I do think the young ones get a hard time for being "rude" when they're not and the oldies get an easier time in general, when I don't think they deserve it.

There are probably a similar number of rude people in all groups

[whitep]

At 37 I am in the middle here I think...

 

You can accuse all people of all ages, sexes and races of being poor drivers. I have been guilty of it at times myself.

 

But in the past few days maybe a month I have seen...

 

1. old lady driving at 25 in a 60 stopping when another car came the other way

2. old man driving at 25 in a 60 stoppng at corners

3. young driver racing round a round about and lose it when he had to brake because he was driving too fast and came up behind a bus

4. young girl get bumped into on a round about because she hesitated

5. young lad beep and get irate at a foreign driver who was clearly lost at a busy intersection.

6. said young lad wheelspin up the road nearly crashing into oncoming traffic, then getting pulled over by a police car 50 yards later. :-)

7. middle age woman driving at 50 in a 30 go round a bend and plough into a bus at a bus stop

8. foreign (english car not english appearance) man not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

9. foreign (english car not english appearance) woman not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

10. foreign (english car not english appearance) man not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

11. foreign (english car not english appearance) woman not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

12. foreign (english car not english appearance) man not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

13. foreign (english car not english appearance) woman not be able to keep his car in his lane and apparently have no idea where he was going

14. bit of a trend here, but repeat a few more times

15. young lad weave in and out of traffic to end up blocking a hatch box and then block an ambulance from getting anywhere

16. young lad weave in and out of traffic to end up blocking a junction and then block anyone from getting anywhere

 

I could go on.

 

Like I said I have been guilty myself of a few silly things, I have had 27 points in my life and done awareness courses, none of us are perfect.

 

Also one thing I do remember saying before my forst Octavia was 'BLOODY SKODA DRIVERS'

[bilun777]

You're not Offnote are you, by any chance, Cheezemonkhai ?

[FUBAR]

You do know that I'm in my 50s?

 

 

 

Sorry Ken, yes I did know you were slightly older than me.

 

 

Ken just got burnt 

 

Edited 18 December, 2015 by FUBAR

[vRSgone]

Old people should be judged on what they can still do, not just on age alone - age is just a number. I can still do the following:-

Loop the loop, tail spins & barrel rolls in a Slingsby T70 (still pass my annual CAA medical).

0-60 faster than most drivers - regardless of age.

Win our local pub quiz as a solo entrant (sometimes against teams of 6),

53 years a driver & never an endorsement or other infringement.

Willing to put my money where my mouth is at the next Santa Pod meeting.

71 in January. Still doing what the youngsters are doing - no Viagra required.

 

Just remember - as I am now so you will be one day (God willing) - will you still be singing the same tune then?

Judge everyone on their merits not just on age alone. Remember - many a good tune played on an old fiddle.

Edited 18 December, 2015 by vRSforever

[Llanigraham]

This is the attitude that really gets me.

I'm not young and certainly into middle age.

I find the y00f more polite than the oldies, so what does that tell you.

Obviously it isn't all (hence the rant warning).

 

What attitude?

[Chriswright03]

There are good and bad in all walks of life and all age groups so generalisation is generally wrong!   lot of what you speak of is good old fashioned manners.  Notice the phrase 'good old fashioned' because that is what they are.  I am 62 next week and would like to think I exhibit the type of behaviour taught to me by my parents when I was growing up.  I still hold doors open for people and that sort of thing because I was taught to do it and it is good manners so still do it.

 

Thing is as time passes by this sort of thing gets forgotten. If you do not show common courtesy to others your children are highly unlikely to and even more unlikely to will be their children in the future.  Good manners are taught to us not hereditary and if they are not taught then they will not be passed on.

 

So in that respect some of us oldies will have better manners than some of the youngsters BUT not all of us.  It is also a geographical thing as well as people in that London place haven't had time to use manners for many a year!

[Jrjg]

So do younger people!

And when you do hold a door open for a younger person they never say "Thank you".

I'm 22 and try to be as courteous, polite, respectful and chivalrous as possible (my friends call me an old fashioned grandad). I will hold open a door for a person of any age, race or gender, but if there is one thing I can't stand it is the lack of thanks or acknowledgment. So I let my feelings be known by declaring audibly "you're very welcome!" in the brightest and most friendly tone I can, accompanied by a big sarcastic grin. It is interesting to see the reactions from different age groups. The results range from a very graceful and genuine apology, to being given the V's.

It's the ill mannered or behaved minority of a 'collective' that give the rest a bad image/name/reputation.

JRJG

[Chriswright03]

Must admit if someone 'forgets' to say thank you for having the door open I do tend to say it loudly for them!  I have also held the door open for ladies in the past and then been berated and told I am capable of opening a door myself!

 

I find it strange these days that when I have received good service I have mentioned it to my wife or to the person dealing with me when in fact what I am receiving is what I should be normally but instead we are now used to receiving shocking service and never mention it.

 

I understand the need for a rant but please don't tar us all with the same brush.  Like I said to generalise is generally wrong otherwise I could say all youngsters would be unable to speak at all if the word 'like' was removed from the English language.