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I have to say that without the evidence isn't it all hearsay and one opinion over another etc.

What you could really do to benefit your case here, is get a passenger to video it ( or setup a static camera ) ?

 

Its difficult to really get any measure for what you are having a problem with without that.

But with that kind of evidence really brings proper clout and comparison. Does it do it all the time ?

 

To be honest my Amundsen which came with the car seems okay enough on face value.

I didn't pay outright for it exactly so I'm probably less critical or analytic about it and I also don't really do the miles either.

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  • You do? No need to put a space in the post code on the Amundsen in my Octavia, and I think the OP referring to it as having 1980s graphics is a bit over dramatic unless it looks like this.  

  • The Amundsen is rubbish, the post code input is ludicrous!!! Frustrates me so much... The awful graphics apart, It's like they designed the interface and then said "right, shall we go out and test it

  • I've just changed from an Audi RS4 Avant with factory RNS-E sat nav to a 2015 Octavia III with Amundsen sat nav, and I have to say the Skoda Amundsen is no better or worse than the Audi RNS-E IMHO.  

My only gripe with the Amundsen is they way that it keeps changing the map scale. I like to run at 50yd even when I'm not using the navigation.

 

To stop it doing this I have to turn autoscale on (bizarre!) and then change the scale manually to what I want - then it stays at that scale until I turn the ignition off - when I have to repeat it all over again...

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Pro Nav in my BMW blows the Amundsen from my 2013 O3 out of the water for speed and graphics but I still think the Columbus system in my 2009 Superb was better than the BMW for ease of use and the new Columbus in Superb 3 looks like a decent bit of kit but not worth what they charge extra for it in the O3.

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Re the postcode thing, you need to type the space between the postcode groups. <belm> at VAG for that.

 

Yes, this is correct. It is a bit arkward but you need to swap screens to enter the space  :dull:

 

You can pay £100,000 plus for a car that has poor built in sat nav  :x or jus use your phone  :clap: . And I have tried Volvos, Peoguet, Merc, Audi, Lexus, Ford etc....

 

Also I don't agree with SAT NAV being dangerous, they are guidance only and sorry if that seems a bit harsh but I have seen this as a warning on may a screen when started up (prob merc).

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First postcode I tapped in wouldn't give me the option of the last two letters.

2nd postcode did register, but couldn't  find a way of confirming this was the correct road name.

 

So in essence, yes, I do need to use the space bar, but still not wholly satisfactory, and why is it usually only giving me only half a dozen road name options when typing in the road name that i require, when there are clearly hundreds starting with the same letter in the same area?

 

What software version do you have on yours? I've been able to do full postcodes without a space from day 1.

The Amundsen is rubbish, the post code input is ludicrous!!! Frustrates me so much...

The awful graphics apart, It's like they designed the interface and then said "right, shall we go out and test it?.......... Na we'll just go with it, should be ok"

What software version do you have on yours? I've been able to do full postcodes without a space from day 1.

Don't know? Does it say on the SD sat nav card?

This severe lack of road name options is rendering this unit virtually useless.

Unless I'm doing something radically wrong?

 

Go for the street name option rather than postcode, of a large village or small town, with the first letter being A for arguments sake,It will sometimes let me tap in the second, third or even fourth letter before the keypad ceases to show, and it simply gives me perhaps 5 or 10 options out of probably dozens that I know exist.

All half cocked imo

Will a TomTom actually adhere to the screen?

Bit of a pain as the screen is multi use of course.

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Hardware 041

Software 0435

Any ideas?

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You do?

No need to put a space in the post code on the Amundsen in my Octavia, and I think the OP referring to it as having 1980s graphics is a bit over dramatic unless it looks like this.

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If it looked this good I would be a happy chappy!

Seriously I know vauxhall can produce better than the skoda effort which is saying something.

Will a TomTom actually adhere to the screen?

Bit of a pain as the screen is multi use of course.

I wouldn't. It knackers the screen big time.

Hardware 041

Software 0435

Any ideas?

 

 

just had mine updated to 0475

 

routes (and re routes)  quicker 

voice control almost useable

 

am a rep , territory UK so its used intensively and usually without fault but a dose of common sense does not come amiss at times

 

sat nav voice off at all times - she is just irritating

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Over the past year+ I have used the Amunsden with my old Garmin Nuvi 255 working in parallel as I can't understand the pronunciation of the Skoda.

But in a town I prefer the Skoda as it recalculates more quickly.  

 

Generally I have the Garmin set on 'no tolls/quickest' and that often agrees with the same type of Skoda route - but their forecast times differ.  The Skoda is more cautious, ie suggests a longer journey time even if eventually having taken the same route.  Nailing a destination is sometimes difficult with both if they have no nearest point already in their system (I sometimes have to insert lat/long data from Google Maps).

 

Both screens ought to be larger but are clear enough to me.  Both systems are also up-to-date (though it are a pain to download the large maps - overnight is best).

 

So - apart from the daft Skoda pronunciation (Spanish street names amuse me...) I find little to differentiate either system. 

 

John 

PS - Over 3000km to Portugal & return on speed restricted A-class roads I averaged 4.22 l/100km or 67 (UK) mpg from the car.

It's not as good as my trusty old Garmin, but not as bad as the Kia one, when I had a loan car for a month (that was truly awful like the car) that sent me around in circles in Bridgwater for ages before I just ignored it and worked things out for myself, it's somewhere in between.

 

I don't use it much as I prefer the Garmin which I can easily load speed cameras on to, which you can't do with the built in system, unless you can understand German, which I can't. The only time I use it is for diversionary use or when I'm going to somewhere for the first time or into a town when I need to find parking easily or big city (very rare).

 

I have Sygic on my phone, as well as Google Maps, so I'm spoilt for choice really.

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My Octavia I pick up soon does not have nav, thinking a brodit holder and a decent app! Does anyone have any suggestions for high-power phone chargers?

Look for Anker Car Charger at Amazon, or Bestek Power Inverters at Amazon if you want more flexibility to charge phone & laptop/tablet or even a electric cool/warm box.

I've just changed from an Audi RS4 Avant with factory RNS-E sat nav to a 2015 Octavia III with Amundsen sat nav, and I have to say the Skoda Amundsen is no better or worse than the Audi RNS-E IMHO.

 

They both offer silly routes due to their lack of local knowledge, and re-route you due to out-of-date TMC data (that's the fault of the TMC provider not the sat nav).

 

GPS location will always lag your actual position, unless the update rate is ridiculously fast, but I find the routing instructions clearer and better in the Skoda.

 

^ this.

 

Just returned from a 1,000 mile trip to France and back.

 

Worked just fine. The comment above about TMC rings true, it attempted some weird detours (a layby was closed but TMC had it down that the motorway was shut!).

 

On the A1 it took us off in congestion on a detour. When we returned back to the A1 it took us 30 minutes to catch the lorry we were behind when it took us off. That ****ed me off.

 

Don't understand the comments on the graphics, they seem top notch to me, better than my TomTom.

My Octavia I pick up soon does not have nav, thinking a brodit holder and a decent app!

Have you considered using Smartlink?

My system is the standard non-nav unit. Will that work mate?

After a short holiday in which the octavia coped very well with all our family luggage and pushchairs etc, and returned 52mpg (fully laded diesel dsg estate) I was impressed.

What I was not impressed with was the amundsen satnav. I already know this system is lights years behind other manufacturers systems but I find the navigation instruction either verbal or pictorial is notably lagging my current vehicle position. Now this could be mildly irritating but as the situation is very regular I find It downright distracting to to the point of being dangerous.

Now I'm not driving spirited (young kids in back) but I noticed that unless I drive below 20mph around major trunk road roundabouts the Nav system would not cope.

I'm not skodas biggest fan but it's a car and it has a Nav system I paid for in the spec. I expect it to work to a safe and satisfactory level. Are all amundsen systems equally as s###?

I can live with the basic GUI and 1980s graphics but I think it (the Nav system) should cope a little better than what it is and allow me to keep me eyes on the road more.

Anyone have issues?

Anyone have fixes aside from the usual get the dealer to check over?

Ta

 

Is yours MIB1 or MIB2, octavianestate? My understanding from people on here is that the MIB2 is faster with sharper graphics and a better satnav. I've not had experience of it so I cannot comment first hand.

 

What I can comment first hand on, however, is the nav feature of the MIB1 Amundsen. I agree with everything you've said in your post. I have gone back to our years-old TomTom Start because I have found the Amundsen to be ponderous, inaccurate, difficult to read at a glance because of the Sega Master System-style graphics, and otherwise unhelpful (as mentioned above 'turn half left' instead of 'take the slip road' is bonkers and smacks of laziness in regionalisation).

 

I recently drove a family member's 2015 Honda HR-V a couple of hundred miles and the navigation is glorious and is a lesson in how things should be done. Clear graphics, quick to update, informative but concise instructions and so on. It actually made things a fair bit more relaxing as I was better able to anticipate when I needed to change motorway lanes etc (like the TomTom it does the 'plan on getting into one of these lanes with the big arrows in mate, unless you want to be on the A66' screen - well in advance of the actual signs telling you to do so). If it wasn't for the crippling lack of lumbar support I'd have really enjoyed myself.

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I haven't checked if I'm MIB1 or MIB2 but my car was a 2014 build so maybe it's old tech?

2014 will be MIB1. Only cars built since week 22 of 2015 have MIB2 fitted. On MIB2 the screen is slightly bigger and the resolution higher.

My system is the standard non-nav unit. Will that work mate?

Yes, if it was built since May 2015. It's what I have in my car. If Smartlink isn't already enabled your dealer can enable it for about £100-150. The option price on a new car is £150. If it's an older car I'm afraid you're out of luck.

I haven't checked if I'm MIB1 or MIB2 but my car was a 2014 build so maybe it's old tech?

Octavias built before May 2015 have MIB1 infotainment units.

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Gutted...mine is 2013 :(

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