Buying ABS module for HHC (hill assist)

[newskodadriver]

Try to find a local VW/audi specialist which should be cheaper than the dealer and will be able to recode and maybe get you the correct part.

I have found dealer shy away from this kind of work...

There are a few in the north east with a quick search of google

 

http://www.swiftmotorengineering.co.uk/

thanks i'll contact them tomorrow to ask about this.

 

dealers shy away from this kind of work because of profit?

 

i can't believe how much cars are like a mobile phone or a graphics card these days (when mike plugged it in, the amount of tick box options on the computer was astounding), where some manufacturers deliberate disable certain features to make people pay to activate it. I mean, I've reflashed graphics card before and root / wipe android os to avoid manufacturer limitations. 

[chimaera]

I was lucky enough to have a compatible ABS unit in our 2011 Elegance. I've found HHC to be really useful. Did you enable then defeat it? If not, you should try it.

I've got a manual transmission and a functioning left arm - why bother?

[numskull]

I've got a manual transmission and a functioning left arm - why bother?

Me too. You won't believe how useful it is....

[chimaera]

Me too. You won't believe how useful it is....

I've never found the standard setup wanting so HHC is just a solution looking for a problem as far as I'm concerned. If it works for you, that's fine too.

[newskodadriver]

I've never found the standard setup wanting so HHC is just a solution looking for a problem as far as I'm concerned. If it works for you, that's fine too.

yes, probably because you drove a manual before your skoda (also manual). i've driven mostly automatics, so for me, HHC would be essential to make the car experience more "auto" like, as if it had a torque convertor to stop you on a hill. if i cannot be arsed with a clutch (because I have a DSG), i cannot be arsed with handbrake either... so HHC as soon as possible. 

Edited 20 September, 2016 by newskodadriver

[langers2k]

I'm surprised a 2012 Elegance doesn't have an ABS module that is HHC/XDS compatible.My 2012 has the BJ revision and supports both HHC and XDS; I've only bothered with XDS.

I also wonder if the difference between modules is purely firmware or if there are hardware differences? It might be that a reflash to later firmware would do this but I've no idea if the ABS modules are reflashable.

You can flash newer firmware to some abs modules. They will typical end up as a BH or BJ rev.

It won't help in this case as a HHC compatible module will need a longitudinal acceleration sensor. It's not fitted in a non HHC module unfortunately...

[newskodadriver]

I've just bought a new 1K0907379BJ  pump off ebay and the Skoda dealership mechanic has agreed to do it next week. on their computers, it says "part not compatible", but when they search parts, it's linked to reg number. hopefully everything will go alright next week. i just can't believe the original owner bought a superb in elegance trim then didnt order hill hold. 

[DEL80Y]

I got a L&K and they did'nt spec hill hold   

What sort of price are Skoda doing the job for??

[newskodadriver]

£200

Yeah, cheapskates that don't even make any sense...

Edited 21 September, 2016 by newskodadriver

[TheRobinK]

I got a L&K and they did'nt spec hill hold   

 

My wife has hill hold on her VW Up. I have a 2014 Elegance with auto parking, rear heated seats, auto lights, auto wipers ... and on ... and on... but no hill hold (at least, not activated). Damned if I can figure out why that makes sense.  :think:

[newskodadriver]

does anyone know what happens during the recoding modules? is the coding given locked to the VIN / Chassis number? Or is there some sort of action code / retrofit code that will make the computer give the desired coding and save it for future reference?

[chimaera]

Coding involves matching the unit to the car. If the unit is swapped to another car, the coding is changed to suit that car. A coding change requires diagnostic equipment that can speak VAG protocols.

[langers2k]

does anyone know what happens during the recoding modules? is the coding given locked to the VIN / Chassis number? Or is there some sort of action code / retrofit code that will make the computer give the desired coding and save it for future reference?

 

For most modules in the MK2 Superb, you can probably figure out the lcode and adaptions by knowing what options are fitted. The ABS pump is an exception, it has part of the car's VIN encoded in the lcode as well as mostly undocumented settings for model/market/brake size amongst others.

 

For DIY coding, it's much easier to save a copy of the lcode and adaption map before changing anything.

 

For dealer coding, there are guided functions which will retain the old coding but they should also be able to us online functions to generate a new code.

 

In this instance, if Mike has a copy of your autoscan you're fine. You can copy the same lcode to the BJ model that the BH rev used. Once it's fitted, coded and basic settings complete you can adjust the lcode to add HHC.

[newskodadriver]

For most modules in the MK2 Superb, you can probably figure out the lcode and adaptions by knowing what options are fitted. The ABS pump is an exception, it has part of the car's VIN encoded in the lcode as well as mostly undocumented settings for model/market/brake size amongst others.

 

For DIY coding, it's much easier to save a copy of the lcode and adaption map before changing anything.

 

For dealer coding, there are guided functions which will retain the old coding but they should also be able to us online functions to generate a new code.

 

In this instance, if Mike has a copy of your autoscan you're fine. You can copy the same lcode to the BJ model that the BH rev used. Once it's fitted, coded and basic settings complete you can adjust the lcode to add HHC.

Right, well the Skoda dealer has fitted the BJ rev ABS pump that I bought off ebay. Unfortunately, it's not working. The car brakes, but it's coming up with sensor faults and HHC / XDS are not working even if selected in VCDS .

 

Basically, skoda technician said he copied off the longcode before he started (he hand wrote it, I can't understand it though) and there was a dealer diagnostic coding for a BH module (previously on car). When he tried to code it and activate hhc / xds, he tried to set some stuff in the 16th / 17th channel. He said that it was coming up with random errors like park assist? or something. He said he couldn't resolve the faults so he reverted to the BH coding that was on the car before. I'm not sure if Mike off here saved a copy or not. 

 

But the car is still coming up with 5 faults with supposed BH coding and no hhc/xds. 1 of those faults is "implausible signal for power steering", which the technician said that was an error that will never go away, as my car was part of a factory recall / software update. After I disabled Tire Pressure monitor  (Bit 2) on both hhc channel and xds channel. It was reduced to 4 faults (the Brake Pressure Sensor G201 error went after completely disabling Tyre Pressure Monitor), including the implausible signal one. However, my car had tire pressure monitor because I have the <set button> on my gearbox...? Most of the faults are to do with sensors. Also in VCDS, there was barely any drop down options for 03 ABS. There was only 3 channel where there were any tick boxes beacuse there was a message saying something about not full control. Sensor faults coulnd't be resolved via VCDS, "impossible".

 

Also fault with 19 Can Gateway. Current setting has the car on platform PQ35/36 and "Fastback". wtf? Isn't the superb supposed to be PQ46 and Shortback/Hatchback? But even when it was changed, still came up with errors. 

 

In photo 1, it is the skoda techician's handwritten version of the long code (he seems to have written two sets side by side, going down. the RHS is what he tried to put into my car. however, I ended up with 00 on the end, not 0000. I read another thread that MK60EC1 ABS modules need to have 2 extra 0s on the end? I have no idea where the LHS side long code came from. I will need to go back to them tomorrow to ask, I bought unit on understanding it was never installed / coded.

 

in photo 2, it is the long code of ABS unit after it left skoda technician (it's different now after I disabled tire pressure monitor (console my2011+) , 1 less fault, but my car should have that function)

 

in photo 3, it is the code of the CAN Gateway after it left skoda technician

 

 

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Below is a partial copy of the VCDS Autoscan

 

Thursday,29,September,2016,14:08:51:11733

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64

VCDS Version: 16.8.1.3 (x64)

Data version: 20160902 DS256

www.Ross-Tech.com

 

 

VIN: TMBBF73T5C9046140   License Plate:

Mileage: 97800km-60770mi   Repair Order:

 

 

Chassis Type: 3T (7N0)

Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 36 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62

          72 77

 

VIN: TMBBF73T5C9046140   Mileage: 97800km-60770miles

 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000

37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ

   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  

   Revision: 00H31001    

   Coding: 863D601609260000610C06E890190082013800

   Shop #: WSC 45336 001 104857

   VCID: 7BF109EEFAC8B59AFB-802E

 

4 Faults Found:

00003 - Control Module 

            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00100101

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 19

                    Mileage: 97804 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.09.29

                    Time: 13:48:12

 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Count: 3

                    Count: 14

                    Count: 12800

                    Count: 143

                    Count: 50432

                    Count: 0

                    Count: 64000

                    Count: 0

 

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 

            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01100101

                    Fault Priority: 2

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 19

                    Mileage: 97804 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.09.29

                    Time: 13:48:12

 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Count: 3

                    Count: 14

                    Count: 12800

                    Count: 295

                    Count: 50432

                    Count: 0

                    Count: 64000

                    Count: 0

 

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 

            008 - Implausible Signal

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01101000

                    Fault Priority: 3

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 19

                    Mileage: 97804 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.09.29

                    Time: 13:48:12

 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Count: 3

                    Count: 14

                    Count: 12800

                    Count: 8212

                    Count: 50432

                    Count: 0

                    Count: 64000

                    Count: 0

 

03197 - Stopping Distance Reduction 2 in ADR Control Module (J428) 

            004 - No Signal/Communication

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 01100100

                    Fault Priority: 2

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 19

                    Mileage: 97804 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.09.29

                    Time: 13:48:12

 

             Freeze Frame:

                    Count: 3

                    Count: 14

                    Count: 12800

                    Count: 8244

                    Count: 50432

                    Count: 0

                    Count: 64000

                    Count: 0

 

There would be another error Brake Pressure Sensor G201 were Tyre Pressure Monitor Bit 2 / Channel 17 activated (however, my car should have tyre pressure monitoring?)

 

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 5J0-919-475.clb

   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A

   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005 

   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32901135403403

   Coding: 108111

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999

   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001

   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000.rod

   VCID: 3361E1CE9A18BDDA63-8066

 

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb

   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AK    HW: 5K0 953 569 B

   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140 

   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20120102200155

   Coding: 088A140000

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999

   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004

   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS.rod

   VCID: 76E718DAC9EAE8F284-8022

 

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB

   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012

   Coding: 820000

 

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb

   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 M    HW: 1K0 907 951 

   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1623  

   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 231211F1002221

   Coding: 353303

   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999

   VCID: 3A7FCCEAB5724C92A0-806E

 

1 Fault Found:

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 

            000 -  -  - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00100000

                    Fault Priority: 1

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 97801 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2016.09.29

                    Time: 13:35:44

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb

   Part No: 1K0 909 144 P

   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    3305 

   Revision: 00H22000   

   Shop #: WSC 20068 210 92300

   VCID: 3779D5DE466051FA5F-8062

 

No fault code found.

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I bought the BJ rev pump off eBay in "as new condition", with packaging opened (with a order stick from German factory) but not installed. skoda technician said the unit was blank and had not been coded before. If it is fault with ABS pump that I bought, I would need to raise ebay / paypal dispute as I was promised a warranty for it being in as new condition. 

Edited 29 September, 2016 by john999boy
Photo links removed @ OP's request

[langers2k]

BH and BJ rev modules both take the same length lcode. The code on the left of the page is nothing to do with your car so I'd ignore it.

 

Codes you've mentioned:

863D601609260000610C06E890190082013800 <-- autoscan

863D601609260000610C06E890190082003400 <-- your VCDS image

863D601609260000610C06E890190082340000 <-- written down

 

The current code is wrong as you won't have a J428 in a Superb.

 

There is an update for the steering assist but as there are plenty of cars with BJ abs pumps and P rev steering assist from factory it's unlikely to be causing any issues.

 

I would try either the code from Mike or the written down one (863D601609260000610C06E890190082340000) and then do the basic settings for G45, G201 and any other sensors. Make sure to clear the codes before posting another autoscan.

 

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)#Brake_Pressure_Sensor_1_.28G201.29

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)#Sensor_for_Steering_Angle_.28G85.29

 

Once it's working with a normal lcode, then add XDS/HHC. I think the gateway lcode is also normal for your car.

[newskodadriver]

 

BH and BJ rev modules both take the same length lcode. The code on the left of the page is nothing to do with your car so I'd ignore it.

 

Codes you've mentioned:

863D601609260000610C06E890190082013800 <-- autoscan

863D601609260000610C06E890190082003400 <-- your VCDS image

863D601609260000610C06E890190082340000 <-- written down

 

The current code is wrong as you won't have a J428 in a Superb.

 

There is an update for the steering assist but as there are plenty of cars with BJ abs pumps and P rev steering assist from factory it's unlikely to be causing any issues.

 

I would try either the code from Mike or the written down one (863D601609260000610C06E890190082340000) and then do the basic settings for G45, G201 and any other sensors. Make sure to clear the codes before posting another autoscan.

 

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)#Brake_Pressure_Sensor_1_.28G201.29

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)#Sensor_for_Steering_Angle_.28G85.29

 

Once it's working with a normal lcode, then add XDS/HHC. I think the gateway lcode is also normal for your car.

 

there should be no difference between

 

863D601609260000610C06E890190082003400 <-- your VCDS image

863D601609260000610C06E890190082340000 <-- written down

 

because written down is what the technician said he put in. and vcds image is today when I took car to another guy with vcds. nothing has changed in the intervening time. 

 

I'm unsure why the J428 thing is coming up as I don't have adaptive cruise control. no 05 address in vcds. 

 

for the power steering fault, the technician said it was something to do with a factory recall. but i saw another thread like 

 

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-83660.html

 

where they did something in the steering assist / abs (coding 07) to get rid of it. 

 

with 19 CAN gateway error, is that something to do with an "installation list"? read something like that. However, I think the Superb 3T is PQ46 platform?? I don't know what "Fastback" is, but shouldn't it be either Shortback/Hatchback or Sedan / Limousines? When I googled "fastback", it came up with a concept car.

 

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actually, I can't be sure either that disabling TPMS made the G201 brake pressure sensor error go away. Because the error was before we took it out on a drive to test the ABS on emergency braking. after we came back, then I disabled TPMS in channel 17 (above Comfort Driving option)

 

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are you basically saying it is possible to calibrate the sensors and the dealer technician didn't do so? 

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I'll have to wait for Mike to get back to me when he can go on his computer to see if log was saved.

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today though, when I activated HHC in VCDS, all 5 original errors remained (and car still rolled back on hills). However, no new errors came up. I think when Miked tried activating HHC on my BH module, a new error came up, might have been G251 sensor or something (which is when we twigged the module wasn't compatible). As I seem to understand it, the G251 module, which is a longititudinal acceleration sensor, and is built into the ABS units from circa MY2009+ instead of being located behind passenger side glovebox. 

Edited 29 September, 2016 by newskodadriver

[langers2k]

It's necessary to calibrate the sensors, it's not optional... The calibration can be performed using VCDS as described in the two links I added.

 

I'm sure the written code and the VCDS image differed. It looked like the technician may have mis-entered the lcode, you can check your pictures to make sure

 

The CAN gateway error might be from when the ABS module was disconnected as it's marked as intermittent and from earlier than the other codes. It probably just needs clearing.

 

There are a few possible reasons for the J500 error so I would concentrate on the other errors first.

 

edit:

J428 is showing up as the ABS module is coded to think it's there - probably in one of the two bytes I pointed out as being different. If the lcode is corrected then it'll stop looking for it and the error will go away.

Edited 29 September, 2016 by langers2k

[newskodadriver]

It's necessary to calibrate the sensors, it's not optional... The calibration can be performed using VCDS as described in the two links I added.

 

I'm sure the written code and the VCDS image differed. It looked like the technician may have mis-entered the lcode, you can check your pictures to make sure

 

The CAN gateway error might be from when the ABS module was disconnected as it's marked as intermittent and from earlier than the other codes. It probably just needs clearing.

 

There are a few possible reasons for the J500 error so I would concentrate on the other errors first.

 

edit:

J428 is showing up as the ABS module is coded to think it's there - probably in one of the two bytes I pointed out as being different. If the lcode is corrected then it'll stop looking for it and the error will go away.

I really don't know how the dealer technician managed to get a J428 error. he said he pulled code from skoda computers for BH module that was previously on my car. 

 

through the window, I saw him briefly turn the steering wheel side to side, but I dont think i saw him drive forward, which the rosstech link says you have to do. the dealer didn't mention trying to calibrate sensor and failing. so I'm assuming he didn't try as he thought fitting a different part was the issue. 

 

when I took the car out for testing today, the other guy with vcds said he didn't think hhc / xds as activated in vcds was going to work with those faults. I'm assuming he meant G201 brake pressure for HHC, as you have to press on the brakes. And G85 for XDS? As he said if car can't detect steering angle properly, traction control is going to be shot. 

 

Well the J500 error had been there even when I took the car to Mike, and no dashboard lights ever came on for that. 

 

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http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/176172-a-little-bit-odd/

 

that link suggest the car should be a PQ46 under 19 Gateway, rather than the PQ35/36 as selected when scanning vehicle. definitely weird, car shouldn't be labeled "fastback" either.

Edited 29 September, 2016 by newskodadriver

[newskodadriver]

Well I've looked on the laptop and for some reason it hasn't saved the scan with the original coding. HOWEVER - this should have been repeated by the technician before he even attempted to start the swap, knowing he would need the code for the new module. if he's done his job correctly, then he'll have the exactly the same scan that I would have had. I tried to activate HHC before you brought it up on line that your module didn't support it, and also activated XDS, but because of the power steering fault which would not clear, both HHC and XDS were deactivated again to leave the ABS module coding exactly as it was before I altered everything.

 

As far as what you said in post 41, of course it matters - two different codings will give two entirely different functions being active or disabled. The very fact that you now have 3 different codings that have been used says a lot for the technician that has done the job, especially knowing that the basic adaptations were not done, either because he couldn't or because he didn't know how to.You have already stated numerous times that you don't understand what is going on, but still ask for specifics to try out. If the technician, who is supposedly VAG trained, can't sort out what he's done, then we certainly can't from behind a keyboard.

 

I'm not going to be able to help any further in this matter as I'd be changing work that has already been done, potentially voiding any warranty that came with the job, and because it sounds like codings have been changed elsewhere in the car that could possibly be a nightmare to sort out now. 

 

Mike

what would "basic adaptions" entail? no, I cant say I completely understand what's going on, so I'm just trying to ask as many questions as possible. 

 

the dealer technician does not use VCDS, they just hook it up to skoda computers. I'l have to go back tomorrow and ask exactly what they did. the guy I saw today had vcds, but rarely used it. he mainly used vw mainframe software too. 

 

you think the technician did something with the "19 gateway codings" as well? 

 

it's alright, i really do appreciate all the help you have given, shame your vcds didn't auto save, rosstech says their autosave dir is C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Scans 

[newskodadriver]

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Skoda_Octavia_(1Z)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Coding

 

Have a look at the botom of this page - it tells you all the adaptations that need to be done after a module change. This is on the Octavia page, but the procedures required will be exactly the same on the Superb

Thanks for that, I'll pass it on to the technician tomorrow. What does the +########@ numbers mean?

If you ever get sick of your job, you should give VW a call

[newskodadriver]

For what it is worth, I have gone back through my collection of scans from various cars, and found this from a 2011 Superb 1.8TSI Petrol Elegance DSG which was also factory supplied with a version BE Abs pump.

 

The coding on that which does not give any errors is:

 

863D601609260003610F06E4901E0081350000

 

This might give you the basis for a fresh start in coding the new one., Enter this code, go through the adaptations as in my last post, see if all the faults (excluding the power steering) clear, then add XDS and HHC from there.

 

That's about the limit to what I can do now folks.

 

Mike

I was under the impression that each coding had last 6 digits of vin number encrypted into it just to be sneaky. Think best bet is if technician auto saved something. They might use something called GFF program and have some earlier info. Thanks.

[Rustynuts]

Mike, have you checked in the Debug folder to see if you have any changes for the vehicle and the coding stored?

[langers2k]

I was under the impression that each coding had last 6 digits of vin number encrypted into it just to be sneaky. Think best bet is if technician auto saved something. They might use something called GFF program and have some earlier info. Thanks.

 

Correct, there are five digits from the VIN encoded into the ABS lcode so the code Mike posted won't help as three of them differ to your car.

 

Thanks for that, I'll pass it on to the technician tomorrow. What does the +########@ numbers mean?

 

Ignore those numbers, they aren't relevant to your ABS module. The page Mike linked is for the MK60 but you have a MK60EC1 ABS pump fitted.

 

The correct page is linked in post #40 which is this one: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)

 

If you scroll down the VCDS procedures to do the adaptions are shown.

 

Well the J500 error had been there even when I took the car to Mike, and no dashboard lights ever came on for that. 

 

I misunderstood and thought the J500 error was new. Still not convinced it's due to the software as the symptoms don't match the ones in the recall information I have.

 

I'd be tempted to check/change the DSR adaption channels in the ABS pump and steering assist.

- Steering assist (44) -> Adaption (10) -> Channel 03

 

You might also need to 00 the entire lcode of the ABS pump and recode.

 

On to the fix...

 

If the images you posted yesterday are correct, I'm 100% sure the tech mixed up bytes 16 and 17 when they coded it which is causing most of the errors, for stocking coding I believe that:

- Byte 16 should be 34

- Byte 17 should be 00

 

At this point, clear all the codes and run the basic settings/adaptions for the ABS pump.

 

You might need to change the DSR adaption channels to clear the J500 error - it might stop you running the basic settings/adaptions for the ABS pump.

 

Assuming everything now works, you should try enabling HHC and XDS by changing:

- Byte 16 should be 35

- Byte 17 should be 08

 

The basic setting/adaption process will be slightly different in using ODIS but it should be possible.

[newskodadriver]

Correct, there are five digits from the VIN encoded into the ABS lcode so the code Mike posted won't help as three of them differ to your car.

 

 

Ignore those numbers, they aren't relevant to your ABS module. The page Mike linked is for the MK60 but you have a MK60EC1 ABS pump fitted.

 

The correct page is linked in post #40 which is this one: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60EC1)

 

If you scroll down the VCDS procedures to do the adaptions are shown.

 

 

I misunderstood and thought the J500 error was new. Still not convinced it's due to the software as the symptoms don't match the ones in the recall information I have.

 

I'd be tempted to check/change the DSR adaption channels in the ABS pump and steering assist.

- Steering assist (44) -> Adaption (10) -> Channel 03

 

You might also need to 00 the entire lcode of the ABS pump and recode.

 

On to the fix...

 

If the images you posted yesterday are correct, I'm 100% sure the tech mixed up bytes 16 and 17 when they coded it which is causing most of the errors, for stocking coding I believe that:

- Byte 16 should be 34

- Byte 17 should be 00

 

At this point, clear all the codes and run the basic settings/adaptions for the ABS pump.

 

You might need to change the DSR adaption channels to clear the J500 error - it might stop you running the basic settings/adaptions for the ABS pump.

 

Assuming everything now works, you should try enabling HHC and XDS by changing:

- Byte 16 should be 35

- Byte 17 should be 08

 

The basic setting/adaption process will be slightly different in using ODIS but it should be possible.

Right, I'll drive down in a bit to relay this information and put forward the case that they didn't do the first job properly. What you've said is based on the software the dealer tech would be using right?

 

And if they do all this, the 19 CAN Gateway error will also go away?

Edited 30 September, 2016 by newskodadriver

[langers2k]

Right, I'll drive down in a bit to relay this information and put forward the case that they didn't do the first job properly. What you've said is based on the software the dealer tech would be using right?

 

And if they do all this, the 19 CAN Gateway error will also go away?

 

Yup, they should be able to change the byte values and adaption channels using ODIS.

 

There should also be some procedure for the basic settings/adaptions but I'm not sure what it is in ODIS.

 

I believe the 19 CAN Gateway error has already been fixed, it just needs the error code clearing.