EU referendum/Brexit discussion - Part 2

[@Lee]

https://tttthreads.com/t/912998997316513792

[@Lee]

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Take gold exports out of the accounts and we’re not quite the trading nation Brexiteers imagine

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/truths-about-trade-that-need-to-be-exposed-svq3l9crh?shareToken=46918a8e9770b392ae312a7d62607b74

[S00perb]

4 hours ago, Lee01 said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/truths-about-trade-that-need-to-be-exposed-svq3l9crh?shareToken=46918a8e9770b392ae312a7d62607b74

Hope people click on your links:

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since the majority of the bars go to China, India and Switzerland (where they are mostly melted down from heavy London good delivery bars into the smaller kilo bars Asian investors prefer), this all shows up as non-EU exports. The upshot is that Britain’s exports outside the EU look far bigger than they really are.

This raises doubts about one of the few Brexit claims which has yet to be challenged. The official trade figures produced by HM Revenue & Customs show that over the past five years the share of UK exports going to the EU has dropped to 46 per cent. This fact — that Britain now exports far more outside the EU than inside — was repeatedly referenced by the Leave camp as evidence that Britain could safely leave the trade bloc

 

take the 9% gold exports out the equation and the fact that a jump in gold exports is actually a sign of market jitters and our non-EU exports start to look very different!

[Ootohere]

Anyone got a link to the story where 'storing Gold Bullion costs so much'  that investing Millions in Property in the UK and paying just Council Tax is 'as safe as houses'.

A bit like investing in UK Businesses in the UK as Qatar does, and now we hear how good 'Milk Exports' (liquid mik) from the UK can be for a premium product, 

Qatar has an Issue with the UK / British Royal Families favourite Arab Royal Families and needs not just wants UK exports.

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-40578167 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40697432 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-39410075 

 

Everyone likes UK Defence Products, House of Saud & others wanting to murder & torture & commit war crimes,

even though the Companies are owned by USA companies they are counted as British Exports,

death and destruction.

How are the UK Mercenaries / Defence Contractors / Advisers / Trainers Services counted as 'Exports', 

that is a lucrative business, with lots of Directors and the likes that are Ex Politicians / Defence Ministers or Under Ministers and Peers of the Realm.

Edited 29 September, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[@Lee]

25 minutes ago, S00perb said:

Hope people click on your links:

Up to them if they do or don't. I'd hope people aren't that ignorant TBH  

[Ootohere]

'Project Fear'  at work on the 'Gold' imported 'exported'  

gives fake Export Figures,   just the kind the 'Bankers / Government' love.

[S00perb]

Here we go - another Kipper leader - wonder how long this one will last

Again - another one with a foreign wife - what is it with them?

[@Lee]

1 minute ago, S00perb said:

Here we go - another Kipper leader - wonder how long this one will last

Again - another one with a foreign wife - what is it with them?

Ex Lib Dem candidate, too

[@Lee]

Elephant in the room................

 

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Revealed: Over a third of Brexit leave voters hold 'racially prejudiced' views

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/leave-voters-admit-they-are-racist-in-new-research-a3646421.html

[Ootohere]

Part Time Soldier, Soldier, Policeman, Politician then looking for a new career sometime soon.

I remembered his wife's name from her giving birth on a train, so maybe they will have empathy with the millions of migrants on the move and babies being born in unsanitary conditions.

 

I wonder if he last longer than the new logo.

Edited 29 September, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[S00perb]

New leader, new leaders wife AND new logo - ALL immigrants - can't see how they can ever complain about immigrants again

[S00perb]

1 hour ago, Headinawayoffski said:

I wonder if he last longer than the new logo.

Just searched for the premier league lion image in google - 3rd image was UKIPS - I really don't think the premier league lawyers will take that laying down.

brb - just finding out who they are and sending them my evidence

Edited 29 September, 2017 by S00perb

[Ootohere]

This morning Paul Oakden UKIP's Chairman was asked about the similarity to the other political parties' Lion logo and he said it was completely different 

it was 'looking forward', and i thought no it is looking right and their's is looking left.

Edited 29 September, 2017 by Headinawayoffski

[@Lee]

The Poke https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/09/29/16-of-the-funniest-responses-ukips-new-logo-chosen-today/

 

[S00perb]

[@Lee]

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The US has never resorted to such heavy-handed tactics with Airbus and the EU as it now has with Canada’s Bombardier, placing thousands of jobs at the firm’s Northern Ireland factory in doubt. And for good reason: the US would have too much to lose from such action. The EU is a big market with a powerful trade authority, and US producers are too dependent on the EU market for the US to risk retaliation. This case gives us a real taste of how the UK will be treated in negotiations over a US-UK trade deal post-Brexit, and how vulnerable the country will be.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/09/29/uks-brexit-hand-gets-weaker/

[S00perb]

Boris has set the tone for the Con Conface week - the in fighting will be fun

 

[@Lee]

Tory party conference kicks off tomorrow at the Manchester convention complex.............
 

[S00perb]

5 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Tory party conference kicks off tomorrow at the Manchester convention complex.............
 

 

OMG - that almost finished me off !!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL

 

[lol-lol]

14 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Tory party conference kicks off tomorrow at the Manchester convention complex.............
 

 

Also it is in the area of the Petersfield/Peterloo, which the anniversary is coming up in a couple of years of the massacre of people who were not being represented, area rich with history........https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/20/peterloo-massacre-hundreds-attend-anniversary-memorial-in-manchester.

 

Like Bloody Sunday (the second one in the seventies rather than the one earlier in the 1900s)  justice for the people has been slow or non-existent.    

 

Hopefully the end of the most inept Con leader since WW2 but the chasing pack is such poor quality who is best to lead the rabble before the next election whenever that comes?

 

Maybe the Cons should have had their conference in Bournemouth or Harrogate which is more their territory rather than a Labour controlled city which has been let down so badly since 2010.

 

 

Edited 1 October, 2017 by lol-lol

[@Lee]

50K protesting at the tory conference today and a new anti-Brexit float

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41462576

[@Lee]

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    Having been the fastest-growing economy in the G7 on the eve of the EU referendum, new figures from the Office for National Statistics showed UK growth below the US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy and Canada.
 

https://www.ft.com/content/79d4c812-a4ee-11e7-9e4f-7f5e6a7c98a2

[lol-lol]

Pre and post BREXIT vote................

Whilst other G7 countries are coming our of recession the UK is slipping back....

 

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/quarterlynationalaccounts/aprtojun2017

 

Table 2: International GDP   growth rate comparisons,   chained volume measures,   seasonally adjusted % growth1
	EU282	EA193	G74	France	Germany	Italy	UK	Canada	Japan	USA
Q1 2015	0.7	0.8	0.6	0.4	0.1	0.2	0.3	-0.2	1.1	0.8
Q2 2015	0.4	0.3	0.4	-0.1	0.4	0.3	0.6	-0.1	0.0	0.7
Q3 2015	0.5	0.4	0.3	0.4	0.3	0.2	0.4	0.6	0.2	0.4
Q4 2015	0.5	0.4	0.2	0.3	0.4	0.2	0.7	0.1	-0.2	0.1
Q1 2016	0.4	0.5	0.3	0.6	0.6	0.4	0.2	0.7	0.5	0.1
Q2 2016	0.4	0.3	0.4	-0.1	0.5	0.1	0.5	-0.3	0.5	0.6
Q3 2016	0.5	0.5	0.5	0.2	0.3	0.3	0.4	1.0	0.2	0.7
Q4 2016	0.7	0.6	0.5	0.5	0.4	0.4	0.6	0.7	0.4	0.4
Q1 2017	0.5	0.5	0.4	0.5	0.7	0.4	0.3	0.9	0.3	0.3
Q2 2017	0.7	0.6	0.7	0.5	0.6	0.4	0.3	1.1	0.6	0.8

Edited 2 October, 2017 by lol-lol

[S00perb]

Brexit will make the last recession look like une promenade de santé

[S00perb]

Goodbye Monarch - 2,100 people loose their jobs in one day due to weak pound:

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Blair Nimmo, from administrator KPMG, said its collapse was a result of "depressed prices" in the short haul travel market, alongside increased fuel costs and handling charges as a result of a weak pound