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This is turning out to be a one step forward, one step back situation ... the second steering wheel works (green illumination lights, all buttons work as intended, no change to the car coding was required from the original steering wheel) ... but the received msfw controller/slip ring doesn't fit, it is very different in its shape and connectors, so I'll have to send it back, and get a different slip ring (no chance of changing what is currently on the wheel, as a direct replacement ... and I still have no idea where the G85 sensor is, is it inside the small clock spring module, or in my case, the under steering wheel module (reminder: it is a Skoda Superb II 2008) ...

 

 

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  • 1 month later...

I've finally received a suitable airbag today, so I won't be looking at the hole in the steering wheel anymore ... BUT, the problem is still there ... I currently have a working airbag (after clearing the related errors with VCDS, the airbag light is off, I guess the thing works), bu the horn is not functional ... the steering angle sensor is till not resolved and the system function test is still on ... today I gave it a thought and probably what happened is, when I connected the new steering wheel to the old MFSW cable (curiosity killed the cat, right), something was either reset or fried ... so, I've replaced the clockspring as described in the post before, but it seems the issue is somewhere else. Any ideas what to try next?

 

My current VCDS 03-ABS fault codes are (and the same G85 "no communication" error goes trough the engine, ABS, AWD, xenon lights ...):

 

Monday,16,April,2018,19:20:32:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


Mileage: 166075   Repair Order: 



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                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Control Module Part Number: 3T0 907 379 C    HW: 3T0 907 379 C
  Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0104
           Software Coding: 843D801619230001210E01E698220041EB00
            Work Shop Code: WSC 35110 377 00999
                      VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068
3 Faults Found:

01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2043.14.27
                    Time: 19:08:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 320
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 33

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2043.14.27
                    Time: 19:08:10

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2043.14.27
                    Time: 19:08:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 166
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 33

 

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Regarding the steering sensor, I've managed to track down an interesting diagram that shows its approximate location and shape, but I don't remember seeing it in my car for the life of me and I've went through all of the photos I've made while I was replacing the clockspring ... I can't retrieve the part no., just its name - "steering sensor" ... gee, thanks, that helps ...

 

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@langers2k - thanks for getting back to this, I can't update the VCDS to the latest version so that's off the list. I've researched a bit more, and used several YT videos as reference, it would appear that my car doesn't have the sensor from the diagram (as a separate module, and I've also managed to find its part no. - 1K0959654). Now, one thing comes to mind that I've somehow (shoot me if I know) enabled or activated the G85 sensor during the MFSW retrofit, which the car doesn't have as a separate module, which in turn would be normal that the car can't communicate with it (since it wasn't even installed). Turning the G85 sensor off should potentially solve the problem (maybe). Or, the other possibility is to actually install the mentioned sensor, I can get them for very cheap, if nothing else, to experiment and see what will happen with the G85 sensor as the steering sensor.

 

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Still worth posting the scans, there are two G85 positions, one in the steering rack and the other near the slipring. The autoscans should give some clues as to which you have/need.

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Have the logs on the diag notebook at home, will post them in the evening ... although, I must admit that the possibility to add the mentioned module is now very interesting to me (that should be the one which you define as "near the slipring") ... :D ... the interesting part is that the Steering assist module sees the G85 (one of the two), and I can calibrate it in the Basic Settings (full left to right steering wheel motion), clearing the dash error of the yellow steering wheel (in which case the steering wheel won't be returning to the center position during the drive).

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Here are two scans, the first one before the MFSW change (ignore the listed errors, they have been resolved - related to some blown bulbs and a retrofit of the Columbus unit):

 

Saturday,20,January,2018,17:26:27:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBCC73T499017329   License Plate: VZ7777GS
Mileage: 162550km-101003mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 3T (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 37 42 44 46 52 55 62
          72

VIN: TMBCC73T499017329   Mileage: 162550km-101003miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Not registered 0001
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CDV)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03H 906 032 DL    HW: 03H 906 032 DL
   Component: Sk3.6-FSI-EU5   G   3816  
   Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000175
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 6FEA08FE7E064C3900-803A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 012 F    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1955  
   Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000809071061
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 03020 425 88917
   VCID: 1322640E32EEC8D944-8046

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 379 C    HW: 3T0 907 379 C
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0104  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 843D801619230001210E01E698220041EA00
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 N    HW: 3T0 907 044 N
   Component: Climatronic   122 0102  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 3D76E2B6ACEAEEA9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 A    HW: 1K0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM PQ35  H+  020 0358  
   Revision: 00020000    
   Coding: 40990AB8D80508C040080084110089A405711BAE63208D605C4040000000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 2F6AC8FE7E860C3940-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20090  22  0602 
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 300908 05  54  0402 
   Coding: 0730ED

3 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:19:50

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.75 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:19:50

00061 - Footwell Lights 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:20:25

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 919 475 B    HW: 3T0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0003  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 66430827003906
   Coding: 000104
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3C70EFB2BFF0E7A1F5-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 3T0 959 655     HW: 3T0 959 655 
   Component: J234__LAU VW10 HI   1815  
   Revision: 17013000    Serial number: 003CCPKCGE4W  
   Coding: 0016725
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 7EF425BA296C35B19B-802A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS611232608 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS611262608 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6LHTDVVNR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS6M80HVVNR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6373JTS628FJUVNH 

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
   Component: J0527           055 0111  
   Coding: 0001631
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 76E43D9A015C7DF1C3-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 959 537 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO   H07 0011  
   Coding: 00000131
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3T1 920 840 B    HW: 3T1 920 840 B
   Component: KOMBI         H28 0024  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110F00
   Shop #: WSC 35703 895 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 316ECE8660B21AC956-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0892506AB
   Coding: EDA3FB064000023302
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3566FA965CDA36E90A-8060

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:19:50

01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:19:50

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 52
                    Mileage: 162554 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.12
                    Time: 17:19:55


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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 A    HW: 0BR 907 554 A
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3016  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4382944E020E9859B4-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3T1 920 840 B    HW: 3T1 920 840 B
   Component: IMMO          H28 0024  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 316ECE8660B21AC956-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 760     HW: 3C8 959 760 
   Component: J810                0801  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 72EC018A6D3461D1EF-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 A    HW: 7N0 959 793 A
   Component: TSG FA        H03 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100299577 
   Coding: 011D0220DE00121002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 40889B42D3188341A9-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 2A5CD9EA8564691197-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 A    HW: 7N0 959 792 A
   Component: TSG BF        H03 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100301686 
   Coding: 011D0220DE00121002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3F8A98BEAEE6FCB9D0-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0133  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1376839
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3460C79257A02FE13D-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    S004  
   Coding: 00000021

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    S004  
   Coding: 00000021

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795     HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL        H02 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100272489 
   Coding: 010C00200000221002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 010E5E4698924A49E6-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 7N0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 794     HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HR        H02 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100272632 
   Coding: 010C00200000221002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 55A65A163C9A16E9EA-8000

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:11)--------------------------

 

The following is the current scan (and the situation that was basically after I connected the Octavia III steering wheel to the MFSW cable (afterwards I've managed to obtain a Superb 13-15 steering wheel, which works just fine on the car):

 

Tuesday,17,April,2018,19:32:48:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBCC73T499017329   License Plate: 
Mileage: 166290km-before-clear   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 3T (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 37 42 44 46 52 55 56
          62 72

VIN: TMBCC73T499017329   Mileage: 166290km-103327miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CDV)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03H 906 032 DL    HW: 03H 906 032 DL
   Component: Sk3.6-FSI-EU5   G   3816  
   Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000175
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 6FEA08FE7E064C3900-803A

3 Faults Found:
049446 - No Communications with Steering Angle Sender (G85) 
               U0126 - 008 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:16:43

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 69.0°C
                    Temperature: 48.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.192 V

006480 - Radiator Fan (V7) 
               P1950 - 002 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:16:43

006481 - Radiator Fan 2 (V177) 
               P1951 - 002 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 166097 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.07
                    Time: 13:06:51

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2083 /min
                    Load: 55.7 %
                    Speed: 28.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 92.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 012 F    HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     431 1955  
   Revision: 04843012    Serial number: 00000809071061
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 03020 425 88917
   VCID: 1322640E32EEC8D944-8046

1 Fault Found:
18036 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1628 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 165096 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.07.31
                    Time: 16:13:58


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 379 C    HW: 3T0 907 379 C
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0104  
   Revision: 00H35001    
   Coding: 843D801619230001210E01E698220041EB00
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068

4 Faults Found:
01487 - System Function Test 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 166083 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.07
                    Time: 11:41:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16386
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 321
                    Count: 50945
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 545

01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 166083 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.07
                    Time: 11:41:04

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:08:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 12
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 166
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 33

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:08:10


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 N    HW: 3T0 907 044 N
   Component: Climatronic   122 0102  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 3D76E2B6ACEAEEA9C2-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 A    HW: 1K0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM PQ35  H+  020 0358  
   Revision: 00020000    
   Coding: 44990AB8D80508C040080884110089A405F11BAE63208D205C4040000000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 2F6AC8FE7E860C3940-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20090  22  0602 
   Coding: 00D7B7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 300908 05  54  0402 
   Coding: 0730ED

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:12:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 13.60 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00061 - Footwell Lights 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:12:01


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 919 475 B    HW: 3T0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0003  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 66430827003906
   Coding: 000104
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3C70EFB2BFF0E7A1F5-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 3T0 959 655     HW: 3T0 959 655 
   Component: J234__LAU VW10 HI   1815  
   Revision: 17013000    Serial number: 003CCPKCGE4W  
   Coding: 0016725
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 7EF425BA296C35B19B-802A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS611232608 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS611262608 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6LHTDVVNR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS6M80HVVNR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6373JTS628FJUVNH 

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
   Component: J0527           055 0111  
   Coding: 0001631
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 76E43D9A015C7DF1C3-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5E0 919 719 G
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6   H05 0130  
   Coding: 00000131
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3T1 920 840 B    HW: 3T1 920 840 B
   Component: KOMBI         H28 0024  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 110F00
   Shop #: WSC 35703 895 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
   VCID: 316ECE8660B21AC956-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0892506AB
   Coding: EDA3FF064002023302
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3566FA965CDA36E90A-8060

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 155
                    Mileage: 165096 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.07.31
                    Time: 16:13:58


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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 A    HW: 0BR 907 554 A
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3016  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4382944E020E9859B4-8016

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 138
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:16:06


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3T1 920 840 B    HW: 3T1 920 840 B
   Component: IMMO          H28 0024  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 316ECE8660B21AC956-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 959 760     HW: 3C8 959 760 
   Component: J810                0801  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 72EC018A6D3461D1EF-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 G    HW: 3T0 035 680 K
   Component: RNS-MID       H10 5238  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: SKZ6Z748013079
   Coding: 00000400040400A30000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   VCID: 3460C79297A02FE13D-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 051 859 AM
   Component: EU East V13  8350 

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 A    HW: 7N0 959 793 A
   Component: TSG FA        H03 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100299577 
   Coding: 011D0220DE00121002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 40889B42D3188341A9-8014

1 Fault Found:
02123 - Door Warning Light / Entry Light 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Mileage: 166012 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.03
                    Time: 12:02:23


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    2301  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 2A5CD9EA8564691197-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 A    HW: 7N0 959 792 A
   Component: TSG BF        H03 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100301686 
   Coding: 011D0220DE00121002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3F8A98BEAEE6FCB9D0-806A

1 Fault Found:
02123 - Door Warning Light / Entry Light 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 165929 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.08.30
                    Time: 16:47:48


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0133  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1376839
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 3460C79257A02FE13D-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    S004  
   Coding: 00000021

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    S004  
   Coding: 00000021

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 236
                    Mileage: 166075 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 19:12:36

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.49 V
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        ABS 1


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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 035 680 G    HW: 3T0 035 680 K
   Component: RNS-MID       H10 5238  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: SKZ6Z748013079
   Coding: 00000400040400A30000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   VCID: 3460C79297A02FE13D-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 051 859 AM
   Component: EU East V13  8350 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels: 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795     HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL        H02 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100272489 
   Coding: 010C00200000221002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 010E5E4698924A49E6-8054

1 Fault Found:
02123 - Door Warning Light / Entry Light 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 17
                    Mileage: 166067 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.06
                    Time: 15:36:13


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels: 7N0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 794     HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HR        H02 0190  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000100272632 
   Coding: 010C00200000221002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00999
   VCID: 55A65A163C9A16E9EA-8000

No fault code found.

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Just to confirm, the only relivent hardware changes from the first and second scan are:

- the new steering wheel

- the new buttons

- the new wiring loom

- the new airbag

 

Looking on rosstech's page, the 1K0 953 549 CD doesn't have G85 built in, instead, it'll probably be part of the steering rack. If that's true, it's unlikely you have damaged it...

 

What happens if you reset all the error codes?

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18 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Just to confirm, the only relivent hardware changes from the first and second scan are

 

That's correct, just that. I also think that the G85 is in the steering rack (https://www.autoserviceprofessional.com/article/100576/wheres-the-steering-angle-sensor). But, what doesn't make sense is that I can calibrate the G85 sensor from the 44-Steering Assist, but not from the 03-ABS Brakes module.

 

Any G85 sensor errors that I clear will come back immediately after clearing, and the major part is that "004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON" for the G85 sensor. What also bothers me is that the horn is not working, I don't know how that is related (I'll re-check all the fuses today just in case). I've replaced the clockspring behind the steering wheel with new one having the same part.no., didn't help.

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I may be on to something regarding the G85 sensor, have to test it out on the road .. but I can say at this point that all the fuses (under the dash and under the bonnet) are fine and regarding the horn, it also works when being tested with VCDS, but it won't sound when I press on the airbag ... I have to add that the horn stopped working sometime while switching wheels (Octavia Mk III and newer Superb=, because at one point I completely reverted to the old steering wheel, old msfw cable and old airbag, and the horn wasn't working.

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It is there, along with other modules on a long list of G85 data consumers ... BUT ... (drum-roll please) ... I've solved it!!! (still no horn when pressing the airbag, but everything else was re-solved) ... first, a little music:

 

 

So, how did I reach a satisfactory solution? Many thanks to @langers2k:

 

12 hours ago, langers2k said:

Looking on rosstech's page, the 1K0 953 549 CD doesn't have G85 built in, instead, it'll probably be part of the steering rack. If that's true, it's unlikely you have damaged it...

 

It's more how he wrote it, not what he wrote ... this got me thinking, and based on the link I've provided my previous post ...

 

 

... since I was already set to try and experiment with a secondary G85 sensor (a module which isn't standard on the Superbs), I thought about it "wait a minute, when and how you actually select which sensor the car is going to use?". That's when it hit me. I went to check the 44-Steering Assist -> Adaptation -> Steering Angle Sensor. And sure enough, it was on a wrong setting (I haven't touched this). It was set to 1 - Internal Steering Angle Sensor inactive, when the setting that should've been right for my car is the 0 - Internal Steering Angle Sensor active. Makes sense? Yes, makes sense. As soon as I've changed it from 1 to 0, the blown bulb error on the RPM gauge disappeared, with it, the xenon turning came back to life (no more message on the instrument cluster that the automatic turning lights are disabled), as well as the corner lights when turning the steering wheel (I only had the corner lights available if the turn indicator was on).

 

Now, I was left with 3 issues (only the 1st and 3rd were reported in VCDS, the TPMS was only visible on the instrument cluster) that are all 03-ABS Brake module related, and here's the breakdown:

 

#1 ABS error - The System Function Test active - there is a procedure which calls for having the car straight and ready to start. You press and hold the break pedal until the ABS light starts flashing, drive straight until reaching slightly above 20 km/h, and you turn the steering wheel to the left 270° (3/4of a full turn) and continue driving on the same speed for a few seconds, straighten the steering wheel, stop the car and that is done (before actually starting this, don't be in VCDS in the ABS module, because you won't see the ABS icon go out).

 

#2 TPMS error (my car doesn't have TPMS monitor valves, but the tyre pressure is calculated via ABS - difference in wheel speed rotation that should help you identify something is wrong with a tyre) - by using VCDS, you enter the basic settings (after entering the security code), select from the drop-down the TPMS reset, it is active, meaning it is waiting for your input - you need to press and hold the TPMS button on the left side of the gearbox, and it will show on the VCDS that it is reset, and no more icon on the speedo part of the instrument cluster.

 

#3 ESP error - the remaining fault was 00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85): No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation. Now, I've read a lot of available content and checked out several YT videos, what worked for me was the following (from start to finish): steering wheel is center (wheels as well) -> start the car (engine running) -> turn steering fully left -> turn steering wheel fully right -> return steering wheel to center -> VCDS (03 ABS Brakes - Security -> Enter code -> Basic Settings -> G85 Calibration -> if the status message says OK and 0.00°, the car is ready to continue, if you don't have such a situation (Not Available, etc.), you won't get any further - ON/OFF/Next won't help you) -> close the 03-ABS Brakes module -> turn steering wheel fully left and hold it there for a few seconds -> turn steering wheel fully right and hold it there for a few seconds -> return steering wheel to the center -> DONE. Go to 03-ABS Brakes, there should be no more faults regarding the angle sensor. Go to Measuring Blocks, Group 004, there is a G85 angle readout, it should be -1.5°/+1.5° from 0.00°.

 

And that's that, I believe it has been more than 3 months since I had such a clean situation on the instrument cluster that it looks very bland and uninteresting now ... :D

 

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15 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Does everything on the steering wheel too?

 

Yes, everything works (except the phone buttons, but that's only because there is no phone module in the car - at least for now) ... the horn is still an issue, but that's of low priority now, will get to it eventually

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The lack of horn is probably an issue with the wiring loom between the airbag/buttons and slipring.

 

Can you either make a wiring diagram or take pictures showing exactly how your loom is wired?

 

The loom part number will also help for others trying this retrofit. If I get chance I'll try and find the part number I used too.

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14 minutes ago, langers2k said:

Can you either make a wiring diagram or take pictures showing exactly how your loom is wired?

 

This is the airbag as it was received from a seller (and I've checked many other available photos on the, web this is how it is supposed to be wired). The first shown cable is the one without the buttons on the steering wheel (there is one extra wire and connector that goes out of the loom into the buttons on the left side). I've put the other cable (which I had obtained previously), reconnected the wires in proper places, and connected to the wheel ... the airbag is ok, the buttons are ok ... once again, when I reconnected the factory fitted steering wheel + cable + airbag, the horn also wasn't working (it did work before I started tampering with the wheel retrofit):

 

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There is no error shown in the VCDS regarding the horn not working.

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Sorry, I'd missed where you said you'd connected the original wheel/loom/airbag and it still didn't work :/

 

I only asked as there are a few versions of the wiring loom that look almost identical but are wired differently.

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Regarding the horn not working, which I should really get fixed, here's the situation ... the horn as a unit works, I can trigger its function via VCDS, but it won't work when I press the airbag ... the clockspring was replaced (when though of as the steering wheel angle sensor) ... the airbag's "button" should work, although I can't be exactly sure (but I know that my old steering wheel's horn action also stopped making the sound during the whole retrofit drama ... so, if there is a horn relay in the bonnet fuse box, would it be possible that I can activate the horn via VCDS with a faulty horn relay? Also, if it helps, I've tested the horn button (airbag press) and VCDS doesn't show it as being triggered. Does anyone have the related wiring diagram, so I could see which cable/pin goes to where regarding the car's horn?

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Bumping this 5 month old topic for help..

I have a 2012 superb pre fl without mfsw and has cruise control on left stalk and maxidot control on right stalk.
I have fitted a 2014/15 octavia vrs flat bottom wheel with correct steering module.
All connected and the horn/buttons do not work and also the stalk for the maxidot display also does not work.

Edit: currently fitted wiring loom 1K0971584C
 but have 5E0971584A in the mail

I know that it all needs coded which i have OBDeleven, unfortunatelly the long coding is in german so i need help on what the correct code should be.

CODING BEFORE

16 Steering Column Electronics

System description: LENKS.MODUL 

Software number: 5K0953521BL

Software version: 0140

Hardware number: 5K0953569C 

Hardware version: 014

Serial number: 20111107200547

ODX name: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS

ODX version: A01004

Long coding: 5080140000



Trouble codes: 

No trouble codes found


AFTER

16 Steering Column Electronics



System description: LENKS.MODUL 

Software number: 5K0953521GF

Software version: 0230

Hardware number: 5K0953569BG

Hardware version: 018

Serial number: 20150701300794

ODX name: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C

ODX version: 001001

Long coding: 1082140000



Trouble codes: 

U108E00 - Control unit in steering wheel No Communication

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  • 11 months later...

Whent with the MFSW Retrofit on my new Skoda

Octavia 1Z5 2007 1,9TDI DSG

MFSW with push to talk buttons ( came from 2.0.TDI 2009 Octavia, bought on eBay from Germany)

New Steering Wheele Module ( 1K0 953 549 AP switched with a new 1K0 953 549 CH from AliExpress)

 

Issues after reasembly:

- no steering assist

- yello steering wheel symbol in dash

- ESP warning light in dash

 

1. I cleared the No steering assist and Steering wheel symbol in dash issue

Completting the whole G85 Basic Reset for (1K) golf ( RossTech wiki) + Steering Limit Stop Adaptation

within the 16 - Steering wheel

 

2. The ESP dash Light whent off

after finding and carefuly dooing the the whole "vborovic  #3 ESP error " post up there

within the  03 - Brakeasist

 

then

3. No steering assist and steering wheel symbol in dash issue came up again

cleared it with completting the whole G85 Basic Reset for (1K) golf + Steering Limit Stop Adaptation

this time within the 44-Steering Assis

 

P.S.

Maybe the issues where self inflicted ?

I switched my Steering wheel with the my Wheels NOT in a straight possition.

I did NOT un clamp the car Battery.

The Slip ring did change its position once ot twice after steering wheel was of.

The Steering Wheel Module came un coded.

I Clicked on Yes and set it to Basic setings in VCDS..

 

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