yesterday i blew up stock Pirelli P7 215/55r17 ~17000km

 

 

last ~25km warning light were shown, but there weren't gas station to check out,

also didn't care enough cause had seen this warning three times without reason.

 

going to retrofit an ACTIVE TPMS

 

now i can't decide which way to go.

OEM is expensive and can't display temperature

380e+shipping http://www.cars-equipment.com/www/en/shop/tire-pressure-monitoring-4/tpms-5q0907273b-vw-golf-7-passat/
Controler: 5Q0907273B
Sensor: 5Q0907275B
Ventils: 3AA998275
Bracket: 3G0907538
 

or

53e https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-Detector-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TY04-Solar-Energy-Display-4-Internal-Sensor-Auto-Alarm/32801389832.html

66e https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-New-TY04-LCD-Display-Solar-Power-4-Internal-Sensor-Auto/32799929477.html

50e https://www.aliexpress.com/item/T881-Solar-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TPMS-Automatic-Wireless-Connection-with-Display-Automatic-Matching-Built-in/32814805578.html

49e https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Car-TPMS-with-4-internal-Sensors-Solar-LCD-PSI-BAR-Tyre-Pressure-Monitoring-System-Auto-Alarm/32795479891.html

94e https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orange-4-Wheel-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TPMS-P409S/1269361122.html

Edited 4 August, 20223 yr by MartiniB
+ picture

6. tire's pressure system TMPS: £173.2, the 2nd generation for MQB platform or passat B8, need support by hi-end gateway controllor

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.CGNl6x&id=545311745705&ns=1&abbucket=11#detail

 

the controllor cost an extra £23~£35

 

and here is the whole system: £190.54

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.11.X4KGbt&id=540282493330&ns=1&abbucket=11#detail

 

Controler:  5Q0907530AC/AF /AJ
Sensor: 5Q0907275B
Ventils: 3AA907273H
wire

 

Why not buy a good tyre pressure gauge and regularly check your tyres and pressures, 

any TPMS is handy and with run flat tyres let people know a tyre has blown out, but since you knew the tyre blew out do you know if it was low and you never knew because you never checked them, or you ran over something and the tyre was wrecked?

Edited 11 June, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

@Ricefat
Thank you!!!
taobao.com can't send to EU :(

found on Ali
273e Full set(3AA 907 273 H + 4x 5Q0 907 275
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Volkswagen-VW-Golf-Skoda-Octavia-7-For-Audi-A3-MQB-TPMS-tire-pressure-tire-pressure-monitoring/32637659528.html
135e Receiver(5Q0 907 273
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ORIGINAL-For-Audi-A3-8V-GOLF-7-MK7-VII-Passat-B8-TMPS-2-Module-Antenna-Receiver/32717802495.html

@Awayoffski
your method works well in daily city mode, but not on highway.
pressure were ok just 6 days ago.
 

What happened did you run over something?

Or were you running with a slow puncture ior do you not know?

 

No idea what you mean by works in daily city mode but not on highways.

Edited 11 June, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

Every time we drive through the A303 through Somerset the TPMS warning light comes on on our Mk2. I must remember to reset it at the start of those journeys, I almost always never do. It always goes off and we never have a flat which is a little annoying. Makes me nervous until I can stop at side of road or a garage....

 

We hire cars for summer vacation in europe. France, Italy Spain et al. May of the cars have been Vag marque or Opel.  They almost always produce a tyre flat warning as soon as we start driving, we've never had a flat since driving them last 5 years or more. Bust at least 4 or 5 cars which produced warning lights within 30 min of leaving depot. 

 

 

Modern tehc is more advanced than the old days, I would not want to go back, but sometimes it is riddled with false positives....and you wonder whether or not it is serving any purpose at all......

 

 

Edited 11 June, 20178 yr by TheClient

They are not giving 'flat tyre warnings' though are they, just that possibly a tyre is not at the same circumference as when the TPMS was set.

Or not set as might well be the case.

Flat tyres are an easy thing, reduced pressures seem to be the issues.

 

VW Group system is much more a Warning for Run Flat tyres which VW Group are not bin the habit of fitting OEM.

55 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

1.

What happened did you run over something?

Or were you running with a slow puncture ior do you not know?

 

2.

No idea what you mean by works in daily city mode but not on highways.

1.
nothing unusual, i started ~180km trip back to home(the same day if midnight not counted)
after ~30km got warning light on Maxdot,
didn't stop cause no gas station on that route
next ~25km gave me blew up tire :(

 

2.
sorry, my english is too short :(
i mean't when you drive in the city you can visit gas station and check pressure immediately after warning is shown.
on the highway only ACTIVE TPMS can give full picture of situation

VW do the basic system as usually fitted to Skoda's which seems to work on the rolling radius of individual tyres relative to each other, but you can also have a full system which monitors the pressure in each tyre and displays it on the dash on other VW Group vehicles http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/reifenfuelldruck-kontrollsystem.html

 

How about something like this which connects via Bluetooth to you smart phone https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/products/product-reviews/2015-06/review-fobo-bluetooth-tyre-pressure-monitor/

We have had the ABS based system on 4 cars now (inc the Superb) and it works just fine when you get a loss of pressure, i.e. a light comes on etc,

 

The wifes Nissan has the valve based system which worked exactly the same when a tyre had a loss of pressure, i.e. the light came on etc.

 

But give me the ABS system any day. No expensive valves, no expensive receivers. Fitting winter tyres is simple with no additional valves to buy.

Skidpan, I hear you about the winter tyre thing and the pain of Direct TPMS.   I am just about to change one of my cars, which is the one that normally has the winter tyres. The new car (a van derived MPV) has direct TPMS with in-wheel sensors rather than the simpler iTPMS that uses the ABS sensors. The new winter wheels and tyres are likely going to be over £1500 because of this as the sensors are not cheap and they then need coding to the ECU. Second-hand are not an option as the car is new to market so there is nothing available     I still wouldn't be without winter tyres on one of my cars though as I find them very impressive and they have got me out of some really snowy spots in Scotland and the North Pennines over the years.

extreme high prices 500+ were the reason why i chose alternative way from Ali

have ordered full set ~53e and additional 4 sensors ~37e for winter wheels

 

about result in this lottery game i'll report later

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-Detector-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TY04-Solar-Energy-Display-4-Internal-Sensor-Auto-Alarm/32801389832.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-detector-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TY03-Solar-Energy-Display-4-x-Interna-Sensor-alone/32813227063.html

 

crossing fingers they will come until 14.jul when i starting Riga(LV)<->Burgas(BG) trip

https://www.google.lv/maps/dir/Riga/Burgas,+Bulgaria/

22 hours ago, Pesmog said:

The new winter wheels and tyres are likely going to be over £1500 because of this as the sensors are not cheap and they then need coding to the ECU. 

 

We bought the winter tyres fitted to steel wheels from MyTyres.com. The total cost for wheels and tyres (Nokian) was about £360, the TPMS valves were an extra £20 a wheel fitted, all in a total of about £440 delivered. With the Nissan we are lucky since the valves are self learning, no dealer visit needed, just fit and drive.

 

Still prefer the ABS system though.

 

Give MyTyres a go. https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/skw.pl?cart_id=29709804.110.50721&dsco=110&sowigan=Wi&csuchen=1&ch_x=1&s_p=

Don't like the later systems with pressure gauges in the tyres.  Wife's Mokka has it and you have no flexibility on tyre pressures, they can be either light load, full load or eco and have to match what the system says they should be for each or you get a warning light on the dash.  You can't run them a little over or under without getting a warning.

 

I am happy with the ABS system, there are false alarms but all you need to do is pull over where safe and have a look around the car - carry a pressure gauge so you can check them at the side of the road.  One I initially thought was a false alarm on the last Octavia was found the following day to be a stone penetration through the tyre tread - the fitter had never seen anything like it.

 

If you get a warning check the tyres - it is not just your life you are putting at risk by continuing to drive (highway/motorway or not).

On 6/21/2017 at 20:25, MartiniB said:

extreme high prices 500+ were the reason why i chose alternative way from Ali

have ordered full set ~53e and additional 4 sensors ~37e for winter wheels

 

about result in this lottery game i'll report later

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-Detector-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TY04-Solar-Energy-Display-4-Internal-Sensor-Auto-Alarm/32801389832.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TPMS-Car-detector-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TY03-Solar-Energy-Display-4-x-Interna-Sensor-alone/32813227063.html

 

crossing fingers they will come until 14.jul when i starting Riga(LV)<->Burgas(BG) trip

https://www.google.lv/maps/dir/Riga/Burgas,+Bulgaria/

 

 

arrived just in 15 days

 

 

 

Just now, MartiniB said:

225/55r17

 

i used to 2.5 in front and 2.4 in rear,
but after have installed Direct TMPS

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/434028-tire-pressure-monitoring-system/

decided increase to 2.7/2.5 because on colder(12°c) mornings that are equal to 2.3/2.2
but after few hours on hot highway(air >30°c; track >40°c; speed >130kmh) pressure increased to 2.9/.2.7

 

interesting, engine is boiling front right tire when in static,
have got 3.2 and  60°c after three hours waiting on Serbian Hungarian border(1km3h; air 33°c; Sun from the left side)

while other three wheels were 2.8/2.6 and 42°c.

this dangerous situation can't be warned by built in Indirect TMPS

 

On 28/06/2017 at 21:29, MartiniB said:

 

 

arrived just in 15 days

 

 

 

I presume its all wireless, and the main unit is solar powered? Does it have batteries?

@bubib5 @BarneyMike

it charges from solar panel, but original 480mAh weren't enough for winter period -
had to charge it once a week trough Micro USB port
then i soldered bigger capacity one, 1500mAh, and now it's asks for cable three times a year
-> https://www.drive2.ru/l/549376208572252702/

 

not all models got perfect type of display, i still have 2017. year device,
2017 -> https://www.drive2.ru/b/481045409196671532/

 

next i ordered for friends
2018 -> https://www.drive2.ru/b/515882335611126160/
2019 -> https://www.drive2.ru/b/549365763211789073/
2020 -> https://www.drive2.ru/b/573208123104302390/

 

use Google Translate for text, pictures don't need it

 

￡96.92  50%OFF | TMPS 2 TPMS Tire Pressure System FOR GOLF 7 MK7 MQB CARS Tiguan Passat B8 NEW Touran 5Q0907273B 5Q0 907 273 B
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrzMAJP

  

On 07/11/2024 at 22:48, Nab93 said:

 

Keep getting the warning coming up and a new tyre was fitted 

Iv tried looking at the post and clicked on the links they don't work might be because the links are no longer there 

 

my content on ruscists board were deleted on the second day of 3WW began,
as result couple of links above are dead,

i will try write new summary about alternative kits from Ali

 

positive:
+ price
+ independence of car systems
+ shows additionally to pressure also temperature
+ in most cases it works well, i have had 4 kits by self + 5 kits ordered for friends, just one were faulty.
 oldest one in my hands lasted 6 summers and were sold together with car,
 during last year it took longer time to wake up sensors in the tires,
 had to drive 100m, while earlier 15m were enough

 

negative:
- devices looks identical, but in most cases sensors aren't cross compatible between different manufacturers
- last two sets have measurement inaccuracy,

  it's not big deal if all sensors lies for similar value,

  but awful when same kit have two with +0.1 one +0.2  and forth -0.1 bar
- last years devices woke up with loud beep, what can't be changed

 

improvable:
- chrome knobs maybe looks perfect in product description,
 but in real life they reflects in windscreen, some i painted black, some covered by black film
- receiver devices which i had came with 480mAh built in battery,
what is enough for April -> September, when it's fed completely by solar panel.
but in winter months it asks for charge cable once a 7-10 days,
solution is, replace battery to 3-4x more capacious

 

 

mission impossible:
- nowadays is almost impossible find receiver device with perfect type of display

perfect one were TUAO_TY03-2
receiver device had display something like OLED, without visible backlite

 

exactly same as product description

 

in far 2017. kit costed me 53€ 4x internal sensors with perfect display
+35€ second set of 4x internal sensors for winter wheels

 

next years displays had noticeable or huge backlite bleed 😞

 

2017 vs 2018

 

 

 

2017 vs 2019 Visture_S05N

 

 

 

 

2017 vs 2020

 

 

2022 unique kit where internal sensors had replaceable battery, but display looks like from past century

 

 

 

2017 vs 2023 T18

 

 

2023 T18 vs 2023 E-ACE K02

 

 

but that fact gave me 50% refund from Ali for last two kits,

because before order i asked seller, is their device same as advertised
 

 

 

this cheap alternative isn't only way to go, check also this fantastic OE implementation example by @JR RS
-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/488740-my17-superb-retrofitted-with-direct-tpms/

 

hello.

 

what are the main pros/cons of aliexpress tpms with internal tyre sensor vs outer valve cap

 

is the latter okay to use

 

@dilino

tried to manage find picture, which i saw somewhere,

but got a lot of text

-> https://www.google.com/search?q=pros%2Fcons+visualisation+of+internal+vs+external+tire+pressure+monitoring+sensors