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It's a lot to take in! The look is growing on me but a couple of things:

1) Cant the quick reply be activated all the time? Can't see the point on having to click to activate it' date=' especially as it doesnt relate to a specific post in the thread

2) Miss the total unread posts on the front page (unless i'm blind and have missed it)

3) On the front page it was really useful to be able to scan down the last post date/times when using a public computer to see what needs to be looked at - the dates seem to be right justified with the last posters name now so it make scanning it hard work on the eyes

All in all though - looks great! :thumbup:[/quote']

Dave, Thanks for this :D

If I may,

1. Yes and no. The link you click from actually feed the submission with the post, thus ensuring the threaded/hybrid view works, otherwise it will be a jumble and make that function void, or we turn one of each other off. Catch 22 eh :D A compromise perhaps is to make the button bigger and thus far easier to strike...a solution maybe? Also in long threads, it does skip you down to the box, saves scrolling or crtl+end

2. You missed it. Nope only kidding here (have to keep my spirits up). The welcome panel that used to show avatar and posts/pm stats was a modification, I shall look into it again, but at this point I'm going for stock + template tweaks. It maywell be calcualted already, in which case easy, other wise it is another query on each forum home load.

3. I think I follow you on that, again we all browse the forum in so many ways (long chat with ncarring) last night, we both use TOTALLY different methods. Both work and both as good as each other...sorry digressed, the date of last post in each thread, okay 3 options:

a. Date/time as per it is now.

b. Today/yesterday as it was earlier.

c. 1 minute/1hour etc etc ago message.

I'll poll this, but it's a global setting sadly (at present). Would this help? Maybe if we ran a few days of each to collate feedback..will have a think over a bottol of red later. :terminato

Keep the feedback going :D

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  • I think the new look lacks the small forum feel of the last one. It made Briskoda stand out from all the other forums. In short it doesn't feel as friendly. Still onwards and upwards etc. Steve

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I like the look of the new site and think it is an improvement.

only thing i have noticed is that the site seems to be slower. is this just me?

Dan, What connection speed do you have?

Speed wise it's actually quicker, less queries etc, however the overall click to present might be down, given extra information per page. The host is a shared server, which can greatly effect this sites performance at any one point in time. I'd love to pop this site onto a highly tuned dedicated box, but it's just not fiscally possible (yet @99usd Per Month minimum). Also you downloading alot of new data, your browser/isp would of cached a fair bit before. The otherissue is that the forum is presently in rebuild everything now mode to make our changes and minds/jobs easier, this does prevent caching, expect some changes here shortly.

Hope that helps...meanwhile :program: :boozer: :shocked: Dam delete buttons...

What I already miss is a "mark this forum read" link, unfortunatley the "mark all read" link does just that, for the whole shooting match across all forums, not just the one you are looking at.

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What I already miss is a "mark this forum read" link, unfortunatley the "mark all read" link does just that, for the whole shooting match across all forums, not just the one you are looking at.

Manny,

It's here :D, well on the forum view page. Go right to the bottom (logical sort of if reading the forum top down) dead centre "mark this forum read".

Most of the features we used to have are still here, just not always in the right place. The ones missing will be appraised on technical difficulty to redo and demand. Hope that helps, more soon.

no problems here mate site looks great!

I think the new look lacks the small forum feel of the last one. It made Briskoda stand out from all the other forums.

In short it doesn't feel as friendly.

Still onwards and upwards etc.

Steve

Colin D,

I have a 2mb/sec connection so unless theres an awfull lot of traffic flying around blueyonder it shouldnt be that. It definately feels slower than it did but must be my imagination.

I have come over from scoobynet as I am changing to a Tavia and noticed how much faster this forum felt(scoobynet does carry a lot of traffic) but now BriSkoda seems to be on a par?

still like the look of it though. good work.

It does appear slower to me too, I'm afraid.

Not really bad, but slightly longer (on Nildram 512k BB). Having said that, there's the extra info needing to processed, and probably even more nested tables that need make up the page.

(Once you have tables, the browser needs everything inside it to download before it will draw it on your screen)

Again - this may be resolved somewhat by optimising the HTML once the final format is agreed upon, and some caching, as Colin mentioned elsewhere in this thread (?).

:)

JM2PW but I think Quick Reply will be heavily used and hence deserves an image like the ones either side of it. The online/offline indicator (the leftmost blue square) could do with either being a little more intuitive, or disappear entirely. There's lots of room under the avatar for that information if it's felt space under the posts is at a premium - in fact I think that's where the online indicator used to be ...

Nick,

Possibly "go back" to having Offline/Online shown on the lefthand side under the avatar/location, along with the links for Report Post and IP?

Is it just me or is anyone else unable to log into the forums if you have the "Remember Username/Password" not ticked. When I tick it I'm able to log in okay.

Also is anyone have problems seeing the black text in the grey box above each post ie where the date and the subject for each post is. Would it be possible to get either the text or the background made a different color.

not a problem re logging in for me just tried it out and works ok, must agree about the colour though the grey is a little dark withe the black lettering IMHO i prefered the blue!

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Login, where do I begin, it's gone AI...

Close Browser, Clear your cookies return. Let me know.

As to the grey text in the dark blue box above, will look into it :D

I like the changes done since yesterday. Most buttons and information now seem to be in a logical place. The black used for the post header is also nicer than that strange version of blue used earlier.

Colin: now perfectly understand why the quick reply function has to be activated. I agree, that's a Catch 22. But won't most people simply click on the post directly above instead of the one pertaining to their comment? Won't do the threaded view much good...

Furthermore, I'm still puzzled by the Similar Threads bit at the bottom - I don't see any similarities with the running thread, apart from the usual posters and the usual nonsense they posted... :D

Finally, I will accept that the underlining is inescapable as long you want the linked text to be as black as the unlinked text. There would be no other way to discriminate between the two if a user has hover-on underlining in his browser settings...

Finally, I will accept that the underlining is inescapable as long you want the linked text to be as black as the unlinked text. There would be no other way to discriminate between the two if a user has hover-on underlining in his browser settings...
Which particular links are the worst offenders, do you think?

I'm with you on the less-underlining-is-good front, although people are used to links being underlined... (I did remove some underlining last night :) )

Does seem slightly slower to me, lastnight especially slow. I can see 2 possibilities,

1) Last night there were a lot of guests online, these were all for the most part googlebots indexing the site.

2) when you open a thread, you now get a list of simillar threads on the bottom of the screen. does a search needs to be done to display that info. that would slow things down with a lot of users online

1) The board is configured to make it easier to tweak things which is having a small performance hit - plus, AFAIK, the full release of Vbulletin3 (this is still only beta) should be quicker.

2) given that the "similar threads" section only searches for common words in the thread title, you could argue that it's not much use anyway - although if you were in a thread that had a very specific title, it might be useful... perhaps we can look at providing a link that links to the search facility? Send all words in the thread title, and search on them?

I think finding out what information people want on screen (rather than just presenting them with loads of info and 'helpful' links) will help reduce processing time, etc. Optimising the HTML once the final format is agreed should help a bit, too :D

I've noticed that there may be more data for each page to download, as it takes a little bit longer to load each page from home (and I can see the connection bytes thingy going overtime) - Not a problem at all, just an observation. From work, there is no real noticeable slowdown. :thumbup:

Steve, don't really mind the ones in the top nav bar or the small ones here and there, but it's the underlining extravaganza in the search result pages that's bugging me most...

I know people are used to underlined links but then most have IE set on "always on" anyway (I believe that's the standard setting). I just like differently coloured links better, but that's just me...

Anyway, thanks for pursuing the matter for me. Much appreciated!

At the moment, everything under the briskoda logo / main links and the footer area is contained within a single-cell table (so that the width of the content area, border, etc, can be customised for the current template) - meaning that whilst you may see the header quickly, you have to wait for everything else to be sent across before it's rendered on your screen, which helps to make it look slower.

Optimising the tables a bit so you see the page rendered bit by bit (instead of in one go) will help make it look faster.... :crossesfingers:

You're right about the search results - that can be changed tonight, as long as Colin grants planning permission :D

I think there may be something wrong with the permissions in the "Reviews" forum. When I tried to read reviews of the Octavia 1.8T, I got the attached error screen. (just to check, I clicked on the "register" button - I'm already registered....)

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Mike, use your forum login after following the login link in that review package. The cookies should be transparant across both packages, but it's hit and miss at the moment. Which is really confusing but I'm looking at it...

Suffice to say after closing all browsers, deleteing cookies manually opening, logging out if it has somehow beaten the manual deletion, repeat a few times....it seems (touch wood) to have sorted it'self out.

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You're right about the search results - that can be changed tonight, as long as Colin grants planning permission :D

Granted. Sounds like a good plan.

I see planning permission within briskoda is a lot easier and a lot less bureaucratic than trying to get planning permission from your local authority.

I have noticed that before, I could click the reload button and it would refresh the "new posts" list with all new posts, whereas now the reload button reloads the same page the same, and to actually get the up to date list you need to click the new posts button itself. This isn't a problem, more of an ideosyncracy that I need to adapt to. :D

(the words "old", "dog", "new" & "tricks" spring to mind, and I'm only bloody 24!)

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