My Fabia VRS was originally on a two-year servicing schedule.

Last December I had it changed to a one-year servicing schedule.

It is now saying that I am due a service in less than 600 miles.

How is the need for the next schedule calculated?

 

Further to this, I believe that I can request the recorded details of my servicing from Skoda, how do I go about this?

I would very much like to know what details the dealership has recorded.

 

Thanks

 

ps - I have just found the following on the Skoda Website:

 

Quote

With today’s advanced long-life engine oils, time and distance are no longer fair indicators of when a service is required.

Under optimal driving conditions a car may not need any attention for up to two years or 30,000 kilometres (whichever occurs first). Or, on the other hand, if a car has frequent cold starts and many short trips, it may benefit from a service after only 12 months or 15,000 kilometres.

How it works

Your ŠKODA has inbuilt sensors which monitor engine oil quality. When the oil degrades to a point where it will soon affect engine performance, the sensor activates the message on your dashboard informing you that your car needs a service. Every new ŠKODA has the Variable Service Interval setting activated. If you would prefer, your vehicle can be serviced under the traditional time and distance regime (every 12 months or 15,000 kms).

 

I guess that I may have covered 9,375 miles but I still wonder how these claimed "oil quality sensors" work?

What exactly constitute "frequent cold starts" and "many short trips"?

I find it hard to believe that the difference between 12 & 24 months and 15,000 & 30,000 kilometres can be addressed just by some different oil - what else is involved?

Edited 4 October, 20178 yr by SeaGoat

Tbh I have always stuck by the 10,000 mile service rule or once a year if you do less than 10,000 miles a year. 

 

My furbi does what yours is saying when I am close to 10,000 miles since last service. I guess the difference between 1 and 2 years is the miles between the service light coming on. like you say 15k vs 30k.

 

9,375 miles is a fair chunk and especially it being a VRS its probably best to keep it serviced regularly to keep the TSI happy. 

When it was changed to Fixed servicing it was set to 9,400 miles / 372 days, which ever comes first.

 

If it got Long Life oil in so 5w 30 FS to VW504 00 you can ignore the service at 9,400 miles if you want and go longer, 

but not 'simply clever' with a twincharger.

 

If it was still on Flexible / Variable servicing then there would be some sort of oil monitoring, or might be if it worked properly.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes 

 

Long life oil & long or even short interval servicing might just be the cause of many a TSI engines demise, 

be that 1.2,1.4,1.8 or 2.0 litres, and maybe even now 1.0TSI's.   Just in my opinion.

Edited 4 October, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

Thanks for that both of you, I'll get it booked  in.
Any suggestions on the second part of my question - "I believe that I can request the recorded details of my servicing from Skoda, how do I go about this?"

You say to the person on the Service Desk, please print out the service and warranty history of my vehicle, it is as simple as that.

18 hours ago, Headinawayoffski said:

Long life oil & long or even short interval servicing might just be the cause of many a TSI engines demise, 

be that 1.2,1.4,1.8 or 2.0 litres, and maybe even now 1.0TSI's.   Just in my opinion.

 

Headinawayoffski, I'm not trying to be controversial but could you expand on that above bit I've quoted, really only the implication that LL oil even with short interval servicing is not as "good" as maybe 5W-40 and short interval servicing - I'm willing to learn seeing as I tend to use LL 5W-30 and change every 12 months, ta.

Anecdotal evidence and experience.   Timing chain tensioners / chains, piston / piston ring failures in quite high percentages in TSI engines on all capacities, 

Euro 4 & Euro 5.

The Long Life Oils & Service Intervals to suit the needs of VW Group meeting the need of Fleet Users that do not keep vehicles past Manufacturers Warranty periods.

 

Castrol being the recommended oil of VW, Total of French manufacturers and so on, not Great oil or Long Life oil, but great for VW or others.

 

Just because Long Life oil is pennies / cents more expensive it does not equate to being 'better', and if you are doing Fixed Servicing what advantage does it offer.

5w 40 Full Synthetic might be a better viscosity anyway over 5w 30 FS Long Life oil. 

I think that I mentioned this issue with there being "good" oils, and "good" oil companies but also some "good" oil companies using their name to jack up prices for "average" oil to us mugs, I did that in another forum and seemed to get under the skin of someone who claimed to work within the engine oil business, and maybe for the very company that I was hinting at, its name begins with "C" and ends with an "l" !! I'll say no more on that in case he is listening in.

 

What you said is okay for me then, ie what you are saying that any extra money spent on a LL oil when changing it every year is not money well spent if you are only running 6>10K miles a year, I just wondered if you were hinting at some long term issues with LL oils ie, they had an adverse effect on engine reliability/life if used as a short service oil, I could not work out why so asked the question, that is all, seeing that in general, LL servicing only helps the fleet and short term owner.

 

Edit:- actually I think that I read that Castrol has been dropped by VW Group and it is now back to Fuchs.

Edited 5 October, 20178 yr by rum4mo

No hinting,  when something is Sh!t that is it.  Ok in dirty diesels and spawn of devil in tsi,s IMO.   Personally I would buy not long life oil if it was the same price as long life or even more expensive and I do because I do not have my cars on long life service intervals,  but my motability car is on ll servicing,  but then I do not own it or service it,  my own cars are keepers though.

 

Edited 5 October, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

2 hours ago, rum4mo said:

Edit:- actually I think that I read that Castrol has been dropped by VW Group and it is now back to Fuchs.

 

My car was serviced in July with Castrol but last year with Fuchs. Go figure.

25 minutes ago, Lee said:

 

My car was serviced in July with Castrol but last year with Fuchs. Go figure.

 

Nothing to do with that with respect to what I wrote, your Skoda was getting its regular servicing "in the field" - out there, who ever wins the bid to supply the lub products locally will be the one that gets used at the main dealerships, I was referring to Castrol being displaced by Fuchs as being the preferred supplier of lub products to the VW Group factories - though probably/maybe  only in Germany as SEAT probably still claim that Repsol is the lub products to use in their cars - might be interesting to see if current SEATs are still sporting the Repsol sticker under the bonnet while having Castrol on the engine filler cap - just a thought.  My S4 got Mobil 1 5W-30 a few times and then at its last dealer service it was treated to some 0W-30 stuff, maybe Shell - somebody has got to use it up.

CASTROL on the filler cap. (edit)

11 months old SEAT, 15,000 miles and it has had 3 litres of 5w 30 FS LL in now, 

black as the ace of spades and it is not due an oil and filter change for another 5,000 miles.

Not one you would want to buy in another 25 months when it is at auction. 

 

Built in Portugal on the same lines as the VW Sharan.

Edited 5 October, 20178 yr by Headinawayoffski

So basically you would say service the car every 10,000miles (rounded) with normal oil instead of leaving it longer with LL Oil. Personally I service my car twice a year one major and one minor due to doing 15,000+ miles a year and I like knowing that its had fresh oil and filters etc, I feel that it helps keeping the engine healthy and able to run for longer. (I may be silly but thats me) 

 

@Headinawayoffski when you say you wouldn't want to buy the seat in 25 months when it goes to auction is that because its being serviced with LL oil every 20,000 miles and therefore in an inferior state than those that get serviced every 10,000?

 

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, JGrindel said:

So basically you would say service the car every 10,000miles (rounded) with normal oil instead of leaving it longer with LL Oil. Personally I service my car twice a year one major and one minor due to doing 15,000+ miles a year and I like knowing that its had fresh oil and filters etc, I feel that it helps keeping the engine healthy and able to run for longer. (I may be silly but thats me) 

 

@Headinawayoffski when you say you wouldn't want to buy the seat in 25 months when it goes to auction is that because its being serviced with LL oil every 20,000 miles and therefore in an inferior state than those that get serviced every 10,000?

 

 

 

 

Maybe you should read your car's handbook, all of ours have useful info re. which oil to use , based on how you use your car.

We are low mileage drivers, & don't have any regular useage patterns, so we use VW 502 spec oils (Shell Helix fully synthetic 5w-40, a.t.m., Mobil last year) & change it every 12-13 months. 

Also worth considering that both the old cars have been mapped to 250 PS & the Golf makes a bit more, I've no desire to use thin oil........

 

DC

 

 

 

Jgrindel, just saying not an idea to buy it in 25 months because it is getting ragged to death but a driver not giving it an easy life, ie me!

12 hours ago, Headinawayoffski said:

Jgrindel, just saying not an idea to buy it in 25 months because it is getting ragged to death but a driver not giving it an easy life, ie me!

After my 1st wife passed away in 2005, Motability offered her 9 month old V70 to me, for an exorbitant sum.

I declined, 'cos I was the sole driver..... + as a Ford Pensioner I could buy a discounted brand-new V70 (20%) for less than their used car.

 

Much to my surprise & after they had collected the car, they returned most (pro-rated) of the initial payment . Since said payment was £7,460, & their cheque 

was for £5K+, if their purchase offer had taken the payment into account I probably would have bought the car.

 

In the end I bought a stop-gap 6-year old Mondeo from the village garage & then traded that for a Ford Direct V6 Mondeo Estate, much more fun than the V70........ 

 

DC

Your V70 will have been looked after and i might have bought on your recommendation, 

i could warn you not to buy what i am driving just because it might not be raced or rallied, but it is not being treated kindly.

Trade in Value is showing as being £11,000 lower than the RRP.  but then that it is actually showing as only £5,000 less than Motability Paid at handover, 

they paid £6,000 less than RRP.

On 05/10/2017 at 23:23, Headinawayoffski said:

Jgrindel, just saying not an idea to buy it in 25 months because it is getting ragged to death but a driver not giving it an easy life, ie me!

I see! Cars a car and should be driven so happy driving over the next 2 years plus

Just had the annual service on my 40k miles 2013 CTHE VRS - £350 for what basically consists of an oil and filters change and a car wash - the labour comes to £200!

I was told that the rear disks were corroded and should be replaced (along with the pads) and that this would cost £260.

Next year I think I will take a chance on a quality local Independent.

 

Incidentally, my ECU was updated as a result of a "Recall" for the gearbox - what's that all about?

 

 

http://skoda.co.uk/owners/service-and-maintenance/simply-fixed 

Simply Fixed or Participating or non participating dealers ripping off customers.

 

 Is there any reason you agreed to pay £350 for that service.   ( 20% of it is VAT.)

DID THEY CHARGE FOR A A/C SERVICE AS WELL AS THE MAJOR SERVICE?

 

They can not just charge for parts not used and charge VAT on parts not used. 

So what are the Parts Prices?

 

Are there these parts provided.?   Ie Service Schedule  items for a Twincharger @ 40,000 miles / Major Service.

Oil Filter, Oil , Sump Plug.

Air Filter

Spark Plugs

Washer Fluid.

Diagnostics check, Road Test and report.     If not your were robbed.        Are the Discs corroded and in need of replacement, most are, for year after year.

 

No 'Recall ' was done on the DSG just a 'Service Campaign' & that is done Free. '34H5'. 

eg,

DID YOU RECEIVE A PHONE CALL OR LETTER EVER 'RECALLING THE CAR'?

It is a Software Update on some 2013-2015 DQ200 DSG because they can over heat / have too much pressure, leak etc etc.

 

PS

Was the brake fluid changed in 2016 at a Minor Service / MOT year, it is due to be changed again next year by the Service Schedule / Guidelines.

Edited 29 November, 20178 yr by AwaoffSki

I always stick to the 9400 on fixed servicing to be on the safe side. 

 

About to go in for it’s 3rd one this year.....

That is a Minor Service then and does not need to cost £159   Unless you want to pay that.

You are not going to a main dealer are you?

BIG SIGN NEEDED IN THE CAR, DO NOT DO THE FIX.  LETTER HANDED IN AT THE SERVICE DESK AS WELL. 

 

As for Parks of Hamilton's own Skoda Service deal, that needs lots of questions asked on the 3 levels of service offered.  

Edited 29 November, 20178 yr by AwaoffSki

3 hours ago, AwaoffSki said:

That is a Minor Service then and does not need to cost £159   Unless you want to pay that.

You are not going to a main dealer are you?

BIG SIGN NEEDED IN THE CAR, DO NOT DO THE FIX.  LETTER HANDED IN AT THE SERVICE DESK AS WELL. 

 

As for Parks of Hamilton's own Skoda Service deal, that needs lots of questions asked on the 3 levels of service offered.  

I’m not allowed back to parks after last time. Henrys look after it for now as it’s on a service plan although after that Cars going stage 3 so will be ether ecotune or dh automotive that will be looking after it. 

Just a quick OT.

I spotted the Estate twice in Ayr with the Urban Camo type wrap. Sounded rather good.

24 minutes ago, AwaoffSki said:

Just a quick OT.

I spotted the Estate twice in Ayr with the Urban Camo type wrap. Sounded rather good.

That’s my mate scott his is a 1.2tsi stage 1 apr started with 90bhp now it’s 148bhp. 

 

Weve still to get a race to see who’s faster. 

 

If it was this week it got a custom exhaust on Monday. 

Edited 29 November, 20178 yr by AMD87