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My three year old 15 plate  Mk2 2.0tdi Bus. Edition estate  company car  has reached 170,000 miles today. 

The only failure being the clutch slave cylinder at 164k. The clutch was replaced at the same time despite not being completely worn. Otherwise near on original. 

Biggest complaint definitely tyre/road noise ..it’s been superb 

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Mine will be 4 years old after 20 days. 296 000 km (184 000 miles).

Flywheel at 180 000, front right wheel bearing at 200 +, seat heating element couple of years ago.

Otherwise excellent tractor.

I solved the noise problem getting all the body except the roof covered with noise - cancelling sheets.

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Excellent, I should of tried noise cancelling sheets / foam. 

 

13 hours ago, linni said:

I solved the noise problem getting all the body except the roof covered with noise - cancelling sheets.

 

What brand/product did you use?

57,000 miles per year, impressive.

 

My 2011 Superb is on 141,000 miles, it's had a DMF (clutch was done at the same time), but otherwise another trusty tractor here :D

4 hours ago, vborovic said:

 

What brand/product did you use?

 

I am not very sure, ordered the job from a reliable company here. Sticky ones :p 

Damn this thread! Exactly 2 hours after posting, on the way home, engine management light on!

 

Fault code P0401, Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System: Insufficient Flow Detected.

 

Grrrr.

 

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25 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

Damn this thread! Exactly 2 hours after posting, on the way home, engine management light on!

 

Fault code P0401, Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System: Insufficient Flow Detected.

 

Grrrr.

 

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Grrr indeed. Really sorry to hear that. You know of my troubles, happened at 86k EGR and Turbo. You managed to hold it off for a long time. Hope you plan to fix and continue to enjoy. Superb really is Superb except the dreaded EGR 

Did you replace or clean your EGR? How much was it?

 

Was looking at EGR removal kits but these aren't any good for cars with their DPF's still in situ so no good for me.

 

I'm hoping a good clean might work, if not it'll be a replacement.

 

Unfortunately on my CFFB engine it's right at the back and is a bugger to access.

1 hour ago, silver1011 said:

Unfortunately on my CFFB engine it's right at the back and is a bugger to access.

 

How quickly does the code come back if you clear it?

 

Assuming it's quick but not immediate, I'd be tempted to:

- Clear the code

- Have the emissions fix

- Get Skoda to fit a new EGR (before 160k)

- Remove the fix

 

Simples ;)

The thought did cross my mind, although I'm not sure I could bring myself to let Skoda install the emissions fix software to my car, even for a short period :D

 

I'd have to travel to Shark at Mansfield to have the fix removed, so I might just get them to price up a new EGR to see how much difference there is...

 

http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/volkswagen-ea189-emissions-fix-rollback/

 

When I serviced the car a few weeks ago the fault was there then (without the MIL), it came on tonight, so I've cleared it. Lets see what happens on Monday!

Clear the code, get the fix!

2 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Did you replace or clean your EGR? How much was it?

 

Was looking at EGR removal kits but these aren't any good for cars with their DPF's still in situ so no good for me.

 

I'm hoping a good clean might work, if not it'll be a replacement.

 

Unfortunately on my CFFB engine it's right at the back and is a bugger to access.

Was not cheap the going rate is about £700 for the EGR roughly what I paid. Plus it took the turbo  out so all in all was 1700ish from an Indy. Genuine parts and aligned afterwards. Got 2 year warranty on it. Hopefully bullet proof now. Have read the odd thread where it went again somewhere very quickly. If it wasn't at the back of the engine would not cost so much. If you start to map out and change the car then only that place will be able to resolve any future issues. Again something i read here.

 

TBH don't need such expensive things to go wrong again. My 05 Octy 2 done 200k by me and the stuff that was replaced was wear and tear really. Clutch. Rad. Consoles.  

 

Funny thing car just came out the dealer 2 days before, if I had said yes to the fix they would have covered the lot!

 

21 hours ago, linni said:

Sticky ones :p 

 

Oh, really? I guess you're one of those people who put fossil fuel in their car ... :D

Hmm, just reading Skoda's 'Trust Building Measure' terms and conditions...

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo/trust-building-measure

 

Full service history required with proof of using genuine parts.

 

I self-service every 10,000 miles using VAG's Quantum oil but MANN filters (oil filter, fuel filter, air filter and pollen filter, same parts as OEM but different part numbers) and so this potentially gives Skoda some wiggle room.

 

Had a local quote of £675 inc. VAT for an EGR replacement.

 

Shark Performance have quoted £120 inc. VAT for the emissions fix roll-back map.

 

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Got home tonight, no engine management light, car drives perfect, but the fault code has returned.

 

This pretty much puts getting it done by Skoda out of the question.

Maybe just bite the bullet @silver1011, get it fixed before it does any other damage ?

Did you notice coolant level drop a little in the run up to said faults, that's the only odd thing my 170 did ?

 

I haven't checked the coolant, but will now you've mentioned it, thanks.

 

There are numerous possible fault codes related to the EGR, mine specifically mentions 'insufficient flow' which does tend to point to it being coked up. There are a handful that relate directly to a coolant leak, although I appreciate fault codes can be red-herrings. My model year (2011) is well documented as suffering more than its fair share of EGR issues, though the ones I've read up on have been water ingress related.

 

A little frustrating as I make a habit of exercising the car through the gears to the red line on a relatively regular basis. I even avoid supermarket fuel and change the oil every 10,000 miles. Hey ho.

 

After some online research I also noticed a 'point to note' that after the car completes a DPF regen with a high soot load it can trigger the fault code. My car was regenerating in the run up to the EML light coming on...

 

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16785/P0401/001025

 

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Strange how the fault code keeps coming back, but its only triggered the engine management light (EML) once.

 

I noticed you mentioned consequential damage earlier, how did the failed EGR manage to take out the turbo?

My thread will still be on here was a long story at the time. 

Mine, morning loss of power and EML. I stopped and started it a within mile down the road. Then continued the rest of the small journey onto the motorway slip. That's where I had to plant my foot on the pedal as I got stuck trying to overtake a slower vehicle, with no turbo lol was borderline impossible. I then drove about 5 miles down the motorway and got off at the next junction and took the roads back home. On the local roads I stopped to take a look under the bonnet and noted the way the engine was running fast assumed regen happening. Closer to home called the AA out who immediately said EGR fault. Took it to the Indy about 8 miles away. They replaced the EGR after confirming. On test drive was no boost and inspection of turbo showed excess play and advised replacement. That was a year ago and all is well with it in that regard afterwards. Since had to replace the DSG stat and had a DSG oil and filter. I do wonder if the replacement EGR has a life, it has 2 years parts and labour warranty I was told.  I would presume anything from 80-140k these things have lasted for others. Not exactly a cheap item to replace!!

 

Ah so it sounds as though you were unlucky with the EGR issue happening at the same time as the turbo failure? Or were they indeed connected I wonder?

 

I've only had the EML light on once, and despite trying to replicate the situation I can't get it to come back on. I've also not dropped into limp-home mode, yet! To properyl replicate the situation for the EML I'll need to wait for the next DPF regen.

 

I'm not 100% convinced the EGR is dead, I do wonder if the sensor that measures the 'flow' which is generating the fault code I'm getting could be the issue. Probably wishful thinking but I've got a likely £675 bill heading my way so I want to be sure it is the EGR and not a sensor / wiring!

 

Thanks for the info, I go and dig up your original thread now, I've derailed Spanners thread enough already :D

You could do some logging of various EGR values while you drive as that might give some clues. Insufficient flow could be a sensor/wiring or the EGR could just be clogged up either restricting it's movement or flow. 

 

I can do some similar logging on my '61 CR140 to compare if needed, the mileage is almost identical at just over 140k :)

  • 3 weeks later...

Just had to have my EGR replaced.  Not intending on keeping the car for much more than another 6-12 months so went with a Haas EGR from Euro Car Parts (was about £240 last weekend with their discount/promotion that was running).  Local garage fitted it (was about 5 hours labor) and supplied the new gaskets for just under £300 so came in at under £550.

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Nice! Was going to ask why you didn't try to claim via Skoda's 'Trust Buiding Measure', then noticed the mileage, great effort!

 

Was this the cars first replacement EGR? Gutted mine only lasted to 142,000 miles now!

  • 3 years later...

Got one on the company with 310k miles and still going on.

will need a poss new egr valve 

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