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ECU Re-map on 1.3L Felicia

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Hello to the forum again
I am currently studying in the UK and i thought of possibly getting my ecu tuned here as back home (Greece) we dont have many good tuning shops
The car i own is a 1.3l 68ps sport line felly ( Simos 2p ecu ) 
So i have some questions 
Can i just get the ecu tuned without the car (like a basic tune) (its much easier to ship an ecu than a car)
Do you know any good shops that would do that
And finally can it be done???

The ECU memory is read-only.

9 hours ago, RicardoM said:

The ECU memory is read-only.

Re chip it possibly?
 

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Re chip it possibly?
 

Hello, 

I don't thinck its possible. Its an old ECU from siemens, you can't do a lot with it.

 

Also for a small tuning, most people her will say to you that it's to expensive, and should go for the 1.6 from VW. 

But if you want to tune your skoda engine, its possible

Chip is possible by replacing Ecu's ROM. But you won't get much extra performance without hardware mods to engine.

54 minutes ago, Papez said:

Chip is possible by replacing Ecu's ROM. But you won't get much extra performance without hardware mods to engine.

Like cams  intake and exhaust i suppose 
If no mods are done to the car what is possible to get?

1 hour ago, nimbus said:

Hello, 

I don't thinck its possible. Its an old ECU from siemens, you can't do a lot with it.

 

Also for a small tuning, most people her will say to you that it's to expensive, and should go for the 1.6 from VW. 

But if you want to tune your skoda engine, its possible

I mean i want to make the car capable on the highway
Let me explain
Overtaking anything going over 90 is a big trouble for the car
So you either have to hope that you can cruise all your trip going 110 kph (i dont feel safe in the felly going faster)
And also hope that no lorry is going faster than 90 because then you need 6 acres  to overtake it
I thought that a little bit more power like 5-10 ponies will make the car safer on the highway
See i am sharing cars with my family so i cant always have my alfa romeo on hand
I am cautious driver and never push any car
But genuinely when i have to overtake with my felly i go 4th gear full throttle and i am on the edge of my seat the whole duration
And i can tell you this is not a nice feeling .... 

Edited by Thefeliciahacker

Okay, so lets say 80hp. ( i would also like to have that power in my feli ^^)

 

But it might be impossible without mods on the engine

 

 

Just now, nimbus said:

Okay, so lets say 80hp. ( i would also like to have that power in my feli ^^)

Count me in too.

6 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

I mean i want to make the car capable on the highway
Let me explain
Overtaking anything going over 90 is a big trouble for the car
So you either have to hope that you can cruise all your trip going 110 kph (i dont feel safe in the felly going faster)

 

This is weird, I don't have such issues with my felly. Engines seems to have best torque between 3-4k RPM, which is 105-135kph (real speed, speedo shows 10km/h more), that's is good enough to keep tempo with traffic.

 

graf_6.jpg

 

This is graph of ecu mors of one of most known czech modders. But I wouldn't take it seriously, especially left part.

46 minutes ago, Papez said:

This is weird, I don't have such issues with my felly.

Fifth gear is designed 'long' for fuel economy. Felicia 1.3 has not great acceleration in 5th.

1 hour ago, Papez said:

 

This is weird, I don't have such issues with my felly. Engines seems to have best torque between 3-4k RPM, which is 105-135kph (real speed, speedo shows 10km/h more), that's is good enough to keep tempo with traffic.

 

Well i wasnt really clear with 4th gear the car does accelerate well but in order to be safe i have to floor it and to my mind thats pushing it a bit too hard
Cruising at 110 the car sits at around 3k rpm but with 5th gear there is no acceleration 
@Papez seems i am visiting Czech republic 

4 hours ago, RicardoM said:

Fifth gear is designed 'long' for fuel economy. Felicia 1.3 has not great acceleration in 5th.

 

I know, and I have 10S gearbox, which is 5kph faster, than 14SK. :) But still, I can stick to 5th in most situations on higway, until 140kph, acceleration is acceptable. But maybe I just have low expectations :D It's just N/A 1.3 engine and Felicia has aerodynamics similar to brick, so you can't expect some big show during higway speeds.

@Thefeliciahacker just be careful, that company has mixed reviews. If I had spare money, i would go to Motor excel, they have lot of experience  with Skoda engines. But their modification includes different cam and head modificaton.

Btw with 14SK gearbox and 1.3 50kW, 3k RPM is exactly 100kph. If your car is going faster, you might have different gearbox, which can explain your issues

Edited by Papez

9 hours ago, Papez said:

3k RPM is exactly 100kph

3.1K RPM is exactly 110 kph in my car
the guys over at motor excel can get just my ecu and tune it

In most cases, they already have chipped ECU and just swap them. Swapping ecu in Felicia is easy job.

But I think that M-E doesn't do ecu-only tuning, in case of this engine you can't gain much power without hardware mods, since it already has relatively high power output from factory.

16 minutes ago, Papez said:

In most cases, they already have chipped ECU and just swap them. Swapping ecu in Felicia is easy job.

But I think that M-E doesn't do ecu-only tuning, in case of this engine you can't gain much power without hardware mods, since it already has relatively high power output from factory.

Get me one 

  • 2 years later...
On 17/11/2018 at 10:11, Thefeliciahacker said:

Re chip it possibly?
 

Powerchips.gr which i thing came from Powerchips.co.uk

i have done it 15 years ego,no problem at all and i think worth it of course with other modifications as filter-exhaust.

My Felicia reaches 6150 rpm.

On 30/01/2021 at 21:03, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Powerchips.gr which i thing came from Powerchips.co.uk

i have done it 15 years ego,no problem at all and i think worth it of course with other modifications as filter-exhaust.

My Felicia reaches 6150 rpm.

what specs did they claim

  • 2 weeks later...

Dynomet

 

75,6 Hp at 5513 Rpm

10,5 Kgm at 4186 Rpm

 

One correction, reaches the 6100 Rpm and not 6150 as i wrote.

 

Edited by D.FYLAKTOS

9 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Dynomet

 

75,6 Hp at 5513 Rpm

10,5 Kgm at 4186 Rpm

From 68 stock to 75.6 at 5500 (so at factory redline meaning the engine cant breathe more air in)
Nevertheless I would like to know about price availability and all this good stuff

Except the ECU programme i have a gauze BMC filter, NGK spark plugs and a custom exhaust (manifold,resonator,muffler) plus metallic catalytic converter.

I done al these at 2003,the cost that era would be different than today because the prices have changed and it's easiest to buy spare parts.

 

 

On 14/02/2021 at 09:25, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Dynomet

 

75,6 Hp at 5513 Rpm

10,5 Kgm at 4186 Rpm

 

One correction, reaches the 6100 Rpm and not 6150 as i wrote.

 

 

Do you have figures before mods? Some people (including well-known persona from chip-tuning scene) claim, that Felicia has up to 58kW (77hp) stock.. I don't believe that :D But I cannot find any graphs from stock Felicia.

Edited by Papez

4 hours ago, Papez said:

 

Do you have figures before mods? Some people (including well-known persona from chip-tuning scene) claim, that Felicia has up to 58kW (77hp) stock.. I don't believe that :D 

 

1300cc Felicia has 48Kw and 50Kw editions which means 64PS and 67PS

if Felicia 1300cc had 77bHp (78 PS) then he could beat on the road the 1400cc of his era (Seat Ibiza, VW Polo etc) but...unfortunately this could be only a dream.

 

There is no Felicia having 48kW. Only 40, 42, 43, and 50 kW versions.

On 15/02/2021 at 17:29, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

1300cc Felicia has 48Kw and 50Kw editions which means 64PS and 67PS

if Felicia 1300cc had 77bHp (78 PS) then he could beat on the road the 1400cc of his era (Seat Ibiza, VW Polo etc) but...unfortunately this could be only a dream.

 

 

Yes, officially it had just 40 and 50kW, but back then, claimed outputs were often lower than reality. Common urban legend says, that good MPI engines reached around 55kW (and bad ones barely reached 50kW), but I cannot find any evidence. I remember seeing graph of Octavia AEE with about 60kW on rototest-research page. Unfortunately, that page is not available anymore...

 

When you mentioned it, I have one 1.4 55kW Cordoba in family, maybe we could arrange some test :D

Edited by Papez

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