The Official Brexit Thread - The Transition Period.

[@Lee]

56 minutes ago, BigJase88 said:

hope that clears it all up for you

More than you know  
Yep, you really showed me up there, didn't you. I'll remember not to engage with your superior whit and ability to answer complex questions again.
I need a lie down now. I'm exhausted.

[shyVRS245]

15 minutes ago, skomaz said:

 

Actually lettuce is very bad for rabbits...   It disagrees with their digestive system!

The good news is that Pet rabbits (domesticated) taste better than Wild rabbits. This I know from eating both.

[J.R.]

On 22/01/2020 at 23:12, Lee01 said:

 

 

 We've lost all the head offices and gained small local branches instead so yay! 

They've.

 

Unless your spirit is unaware of what continent your body resides in.

Edited 24 January, 2020 by J.R.

[@Lee]

2 minutes ago, J.R. said:

They've.

 

Unless your spirit is unaware of what continent your body resides in.

If I was still resident in Britain, which continent would I be residing in? 
As I mentioned previously in an answer to a question Skomaz asked; I'm still British. 

[shyVRS245]

4 minutes ago, J.R. said:

They've.

 

Unless your spirit is unaware of what continent your body resides in.

Perhaps he's talking about German companies moving HQ's to London, being the Financial centre of Europe.

[@Lee]

1 hour ago, moley said:

For those of you who eat salad leaf products in the UK should know that these have been washed with chlorinated water.

 

Do you have a link for that C&P you quoted, moley?
If not do you understand the reason why people aren't moaning about chlorinated salad but do moan about chlorinated chicken?
Can you point me to any cases where lettuce has been inhumanely treated? 

[moley]

4 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Do you have a link for that C&P you quoted, moley?
If not do you understand the reason why people aren't moaning about chlorinated salad but do moan about chlorinated chicken?
Can you point me to any cases where lettuce has been inhumanely treated? 

https://www.just-food.com/news/salad-group-defends-map-and-chlorine-use_id85223.aspx

Chlorine is also used in swimming pools and a low level is added to your domestic tap water.

I think there is a lot of hype in the fact that in the USA chicken is  washed in chlorine and that process is banned in the EU. I have eaten chicken products in the US over the last fifteen years and never had a problem. 

 

[CWARD]

On 28/03/2019 at 18:53, CWARD said:

 

Good old project fear

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/does-eu-say-its-safe-eat-chicken-rinsed-chlorine/

 

Chlorine washed salad is ok though

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47440562

 

EU high food standards - anyone for free range chicken 

https://www.peta.org.uk/features/this-is-free-range/

 

You think all your meat is from nice , happy animals on picturesque farms in the EU

 https://www.eurogroupforanimals.org/chinese-poultry-meat-preparations-likely-to-get-cheap-access-to-eu-markets-without-consideration-for-animal-welfare

 

How about some nice Brazilian meat 

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/eu-report-findings-support-brazilian-meat-ban-says-ifa-1.3246162

Shame they on,y did an audit after China banned imports of meat from Brazil. 

 

Tumbled Chicken

Red Lice Chicken pesticide 

Salmanella eggs

Horse meat

 

Don't forget your veggies with a nice side of cancer

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bayer-glyphosate-lawsuit/bayer-shares-sag-after-u-s-jury-verdict-in-roundup-cancer-trial-idUSKCN1R917E

EU Approved through 'cough' independent research 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/15/eu-glyphosate-approval-was-based-on-plagiarised-monsanto-text-report-finds?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Bon appetite. 

As we seem to be repeating facts and I can’t be bothered to type it all out again I’ll just quote myself from the first page of this thread on the EU food standards. 
 

I’ll also point out if there is no trade deal at the end of this then the Irish meat trade will cease without the U.K. land bridge to the rest of Europe. Of course they can always change the legislation and allow the animals to suffer for longer to make the sea journey.

Edited 24 January, 2020 by CWARD

[Chorlton]

8 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Do you have a link for that C&P you quoted, moley?
If not do you understand the reason why people aren't moaning about chlorinated salad but do moan about chlorinated chicken?
Can you point me to any cases where lettuce has been inhumanely treated? 

Absolutely spot on Lee01 👏.

[KenONeill]

5 hours ago, moley said:

I have eaten

Big hint; you're not even a representative example of Briskoda!

[Aspman]

Employment Rights rollback has already started

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/legislation/workers-rights-and-the-new-eu-withdrawal-agreement-bill/

 

The removal or protective clauses in the Withdrawal Agreement Bill sets the groundwrk for a further reduction in workers rights. The removal or workers right under the guise of "employment flexibility" has long been a stated aim of the conservatives.

 

Great if you are a business owner, not so great if you're an employee.

Edited 24 January, 2020 by Aspman

[J.R.]

10 hours ago, Lee01 said:

If I was still resident in Britain, which continent would I be residing in? 
 

 

Touché

[Aspman]

6 hours ago, moley said:

https://www.just-food.com/news/salad-group-defends-map-and-chlorine-use_id85223.aspx

Chlorine is also used in swimming pools and a low level is added to your domestic tap water.

I think there is a lot of hype in the fact that in the USA chicken is  washed in chlorine and that process is banned in the EU. I have eaten chicken products in the US over the last fifteen years and never had a problem. 

 

 

It's not the chlorine that's the problem (it gets highlighted in the press becasue it makes for a more dramatic headline), it's that chlorination is used as a mitigating measure against poorer levels of hygiene in the chicken meat production process.

 

We don't need to chlorinate in the UK right now because our food production standards are high enough we don't require it.

 

[CWARD]

9 minutes ago, Aspman said:

Employment Rights rollback has already started

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/legislation/workers-rights-and-the-new-eu-withdrawal-agreement-bill/

 

The removal or protective clauses in the Withdrawal Agreement Bill sets the groundwrk for a further reduction in workers rights. The removal or workers right under the guise of "employment flexibility" has long been a stated aim of the conservatives.

 

Great if you are a business owner, not so great if you're an employee.

 

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The non-binding Political Declaration negotiated between the Johnson Government and the EU, states that the future UK-EU agreement should have a level playing field clause. It commits to a clause that would maintain “employment standards at the current high levels provided by the existing common standards.”

From the same link and contradicts the FT article, which was denied by Government and prior to the withdrawal agreement. 
 

Also moving away from being tied to EU legislation.

 

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Second, the Government would have been required to report regularly on any new workers’ rights adopted by the EU. These reports would have stated whether UK law already recognised rights of the same kind and, if not, whether the Government planned take any steps to keep pace with the new EU rights. Parliament would have had a chance to vote on whether to approve these reports.

As already stated our employment laws exceed the EU minimum and the Tory government could have reduced them to these lower levels previously so no need the EU to do so now. 

[paulkennedy]

3 hours ago, Aspman said:

 

It's not the chlorine that's the problem (it gets highlighted in the press becasue it makes for a more dramatic headline), it's that chlorination is used as a mitigating measure against poorer levels of hygiene in the chicken meat production process.

 

We don't need to chlorinate in the UK right now because our food production standards are high enough we don't require it.

 

Obviously Cletus the slack jawed yokel will have extemporary hygiene standards so nothing to worry about whilst eating American chicken.

[CWARD]

57 minutes ago, paulkennedy said:

Obviously Cletus the slack jawed yokel will have extemporary hygiene standards so nothing to worry about whilst eating American chicken.

Probably better than those in China, Vietnam and Brazil that are allowed to import meat into the EU. 

[moley]

1 hour ago, CWARD said:

Probably better than those in China, Vietnam and Brazil that are allowed to import meat into the EU. 

I prefer horse meat burgers. 

[moley]

UK firms see boost as uncertainty eases, survey says

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51233858

 

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The PMI index, which includes the two sectors. rose to a 16-month high of 52.4, up from 49.3 in December.

IHS Markit, which compiled the survey, said demand was growing in the wake of the general election in December.

The figures are the last economic data to be released before Bank of England policymakers meet next week.

 

[@Lee]

1 hour ago, CWARD said:

Probably better than those in China, Vietnam and Brazil that are allowed to import meat into the EU. 

Probably? So that's just your opinion is it not?
Loads of canned meat sold in the UK comes from Brazil. Mostly corned beef and those cans of Prince's Stewed Steak (as an example). Has done for years even going back before the UK was in the EU. I bought some very good quality steaks from Brazil and Argentina from Makro. 28 day aged and very nice it was too.

[CWARD]

Lots of meat came from Brazil that wasn’t fit for human consumption but the EU carried on allowing it in as it was meeting EU standards. That was until China banned Brazilian meat imports due to it not being safe to eat, then the EU decided to act. See my links in previous posts. 

[shyVRS245]

27 minutes ago, moley said:

I prefer horse meat burgers. 

Tesco sold those but forgot to tell customers they contained horse. Called them beef burgers. Sourced from the EU of course because British people wouldn't knowingly eat horse meat.

[paulkennedy]

2 hours ago, CWARD said:

Probably better than those in China, Vietnam and Brazil that are allowed to import meat into the EU. 

You have  evidence to back up that assertion?

[@Lee]

6 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Tesco sold those but forgot to tell customers they contained horse. Called them beef burgers. Sourced from the EU of course because British people wouldn't knowingly eat horse meat.

IIRC part of it was British companies buying dodgy meat and not checking properly wasn't it? I know Burger King dropped one company and chose to buy German beef.

[skomaz]

18 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

The good news is that Pet rabbits (domesticated) taste better than Wild rabbits. This I know from eating both.

 

Not sure my kids would go for 'homemade' Rabbit stew if they knew if one of our two rabbits disappeared...   but I'll bear that in mind...   😁

 

[skomaz]

13 hours ago, moley said:

Chlorine is also used in swimming pools and a low level is added to your domestic tap water.

 

 

And very high doses are used to disinfect potable water pipes etc...